Is P!P Going to Break Sableye?

actually...uxie donk has a chance of going second. if any donk deck goes second its mostly over. sable donk wins because it is automatically goes first
 
Uxiedonk=junk, as plus power is now discarded instead of attached.

Good sabledonk (which I've been hearing as ChampionEye) will be able to Crobat/PokeTurn/Junk Arm KO a bench pokemon, Seeker another and Ko the active with ebelt/sp dark Sableye.
With uxie's draw power and searchability, its not too unreasonable.

It could even bring down an active Reshirom/Zekram and seeker the bench.

I've also heard it might run pokeblowers for extra damage chances or the gust of wind effect.

If they start with sableye, you'll porbably need 3 basics to have a chance.
 
I have faith that POP will address the issue. Then again, I have been wrong before! Should they ignore it, I suggest four Spiritomb in every deck.
 
Dr. Mason said:
I have faith that POP will address the issue. Then again, I have been wrong before! Should they ignore it, I suggest four Spiritomb in every deck.
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I main Regigigas and I can already say that you cannot run 4 Spiritomb in EVERY deck - heck, in Regigigas or any SP deck, you cannot even run 1.
It's a solution, yes...just not a universal one. :p
 
Correction--any deck that can AFFORD to run it, of course.

The metagame changing is nothing new, for better or worse. If it's unappealing, speak to POP where it matters--your mouth, and your wallet.
 
If Sableye doesn't get broken, I'm not going to bother running 4 Tomb in everything because I hate that card. I'm just going to hope no one is enough of a jerk to play it, and that I don't run into any, or hope their deck is inconsistent when I play them. I'll take the auto loss to the 2 Sableyes I might play at Nats, and beat everything else because they are playing 4 useless Spirtomb.
 
Vulpix Yolk said:
If Sableye doesn't get broken, I'm not going to bother running 4 Tomb in everything because I hate that card. I'm just going to hope no one is enough of a jerk to play it, and that I don't run into any, or hope their deck is inconsistent when I play them. I'll take the auto loss to the 2 Sableyes I might play at Nats, and beat everything else because they are playing 4 useless Spirtomb.
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I severely doubt they won't play it. Even when everybody hated them, GG and Luxchomp kept getting played.

Top players will play whatever makes them win, whether that's a good thing or not.
 
creamyjeremy said:
Uxiedonk=junk, as plus power is now discarded instead of attached.

Good sabledonk (which I've been hearing as ChampionEye) will be able to Crobat/PokeTurn/Junk Arm KO a bench pokemon, Seeker another and Ko the active with ebelt/sp dark Sableye.
With uxie's draw power and searchability, its not too unreasonable.

It could even bring down an active Reshirom/Zekram and seeker the bench.

I've also heard it might run pokeblowers for extra damage chances or the gust of wind effect.

If they start with sableye, you'll porbably need 3 basics to have a chance.
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Actually, 3 basics with 80+ HP to have a small chance to win
 
No, in J-Wittz's Sabldonk video, it showed him donking 3 80 HP Pokemon.
 
Hell, ZekromDonk (Zekrom, Pachirisu CoL, Lightning Energy, Shaymin UL) with the same engine is still going to get the donk if it goes first. The problem is the format - not the single card. Even after rotation we're going to see an unhealthy win percentage on the first turn.
 
I heard Zekrom donk rarely ever gets the donk. Let alone if your opponent has 2 pokemon, the format is half the the problem, the second half is Sableye.
 
If everyone wants sableye banned after the rule change then (instead) why not keep the rules for the rotation? That way sabledonk wouldn't be able to play as it's meant to play and solves everything without banning cards by just simply delaying the rule change.
Why do people want to ban sableye more than keep the rules? It's the rules that makes the game unbalanced and makes it possible for sableye to donk everything.

 
We'll see. There's going to be a LOT of backlash against them for this, and it's definitely going to be enough to make a dent in their second quarter if they don't change the rules up until fall rotation. We'll see if they're that stupid, or if they like money, lol. I think the ideal solution is a midseason rotation to PT on.
 
Then 3 big decks would be suddenly rotated, so you work all year, perfecting a Gyarados, and find out that there was a rotation? That's unfair.
 
glaceon said:
Then 3 big decks would be suddenly rotated, so you work all year, perfecting a Gyarados, and find out that there was a rotation? That's unfair.
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That feeling might have occurred in Japan as well. But it was for the health of the format. Gyarados has been around for years. There's been plenty of time to play it.
 
Dr. Mason said:
glaceon said:
Then 3 big decks would be suddenly rotated, so you work all year, perfecting a Gyarados, and find out that there was a rotation? That's unfair.
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That feeling might have occurred in Japan as well. But it was for the health of the format. Gyarados has been around for years. There's been plenty of time to play it.
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I agree, imagine if Gyarados was out there being popular for like 8 thousand years, like plox. I'm sure we would get sick of it.
 
Plox was popular until the rotation became DP-on. I think Plox only stayed popular for a couple months, since after that it lost DRE and Scramble. It was still playable (I ran a weaker version at States once), but it wasn't as good as it was then.
 
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