shadoworganoid said:
1. It makes for a good discussion on the matter
2. If you are trying to defend something, that would make a better argument for why.
3. The argument you used can translate to "don't bother making a statement on the movie because it can't please everyone". It's basically shutting people down on anything if they don't like it.
4. If you're trying to avoid a flamewar, thats understandable. Still....
I could mention all the good qualities about it, but if you don't like it, it doesnt matter.
Actually, it would. I have had a friend who decried Garou: Mark of the Wolves for being too slow and boring. However, I have provided angles as to why the gameplay be sped up (such as a quick cancel feature allowing you to exit out of a single special move). Not to mention explaining how the top system works to a person's advantage, creating more strategy in the placement of the TOP itself. After a few rounds, he's addicted to it. Infact, I sort of regret telling him about those things, cause now he's my biggest threat.
What i'm trying to say is give me a different angle as to why you think the movie is good and maybe i'll see it in a different light. Then again, I may not. I might say otherwise to points listed if I disagree.
Let me ask you this then, what should have done differently to make YOU like it?
Well....
1. Justin Hammer's character (said it twice already) shouldn't be so incredibly obnoxious to the point where he feels like he came from both transformers films. Dialogue (like the one I posted) is above all
not funny. Infact, it feels like he's trying to hard to be just
like Tony himself.
2. Action sequences aren't very good. Granted, I did like the car track fight, many of the other sequences aren't...well....exciting. Infact, they're boring. For example, at the end where Iron Man is fighting off the drones in the air, you can hardly make out anything thats going on and looks like an obscured dog fight from star wars Episode 3. Even after that, in the park, they easily dispatch the drones with little to no work. There's no real sense of tension. Iron Man 1 had various odds stacked against Tony in the fight against Iron Monger. Here, the fight was heavily in his favor, making it somewhat predictable.
3. Make sense?
This might be quite nitpicky but eh. Tony Stark decides to go into a race track for some reason.....why? It felt like a forced scene just so he can go into combat against Whiplash. It's similar to Wolverine fighting Gambit in his bad prequel. There's no reason for it. Admittedly, it does the job of moving the plot forward, but it seems so random at best. How is Rhodes immediately capable of using one of the Iron Man suits? He has a full understanding of the suits combat systems without any prior knowledge. Tony even needed to practice using the suit's flight and flight stabilizer systems in combat before using them. Rhodes perfectly flies out and lands in an air base with no error.
How? Yes, this is a fantasy movie, but since it's live action, they've done a lot to make Iron Man feel more realistic than past marvel films. I don't doubt Shield's knowledge, but how in the heck did they find a cure/suppressant for Tony's condition? I wouldn't have a problem with this scene, but it would've helped if they did this
after the final fight, as Tony would have some odds stacked against him.
Then again, I suppose Whiplash is versatile enough that he doesn't need some arbitrary handicap to show how strong he is. Still...
4. Personal Issue: They could have done more with Black Widow or heck, most of the cast really. Black Widow is simply Tony's shadow in the movie, mostly cold, mostly emotionless and hardly has any role in the movie besides that. But yeah, fantastic stunt work at the end. Happy Hogan, I felt, was nothing more than everyone's punching bag. While I don't care about the character in general, I absolutely
hate it when characters are used this way to generate comedy relief. Especially at the end where he was fighting one security guard and was being pummeled until he finally gets more hits in and wins. "I got him!" and black widow is long gone. And we're supposed to laugh. To top it off, they tried to make him look like a jerk. "I'm not taking you anywhere" he says to Black Widow when she demands to be taken to Hammer industries to stop Warmachine from killing Iron Man. Why not? Pepper Pots came off as an annoyance and was hardly even in the movie.
5. Another Personal issue: Warmachine happens to be one of my favorite characters, and I felt that he was nothing but a pawn/tool in the movie. Even his "super weapon" was a dud (understandable, considering it was made by Whiplash). Kinda hard to swallow.
The comedy relief was as good as ever (though sometimes they tried a little too hard, such as when Tony acted a fool over some animated decorate in Pepper's office) but the pacing could have used some work.
