No you're the one who said we're lynching probably town today if we're lynching the guy who would have been lynched D2.
I don't remember that? I think I said we'll probably lynch town if we lynch second alternative. I don't recall bringing up Day 2, but if I did, that's what I meant.
NinjaPenguin said:
It's not like you're reducing numbers by one guaranteed because Jplap is likely town if you ask me. Lynching the guy who would have been for D2 on D1 is perfectly adaquate to get info that can assist a lot, since D5 is a day where it's very likely we'd be in LYLO/MYLO and it's not like half the game isn't composed of veterans.
No, nothing in this game is guaranteed, for us. Arguing in guarantees is therefore inherently flawed.
And what do you think about your question now that roz just outed themselves as the indie?
Now do you accept that jplap is the better lynch today, as your question is worthless?
NinjaPenguin said:
On the second point, yeah I actually can. He hasn't used an indie in recent games, but in old ones he definitely had at least a couple. I specifically remember one in 14; I remember exactly 0 others in his games that weren't SKs in games with 30+ people to wear down the numbers.
OK so he had one 39 games ago. I think it's been long enough and he's hosted enough games since for us to assume he's had a change in design philosophy since then.
NinjaPenguin said:
Yeah this day is going to be info rich but only because I pushed a counterwagon (multiple lynch).
Congrats? Now that you've got us into that advantageous position,
now lynch the scummiest player: jplap.
NinjaPenguin said:
Lol if Jplap doesn't follow through with my plan he knows he's dead immediately.
And this is the third point I omitted from my last list
@scattered mind because I wanted NP to confirm it first. NP's been jplap's primary advocate and his question
sucks, so jplap is, if town, stuck in a lose/lose between asking the worst question suggested so far, and defying NP. Either way he's lynched tomorrow, which means if he's not town he can easily skirt by.
NinjaPenguin said:
Then let's lynch Mariano and get a guaranteed scum from your perspective today or tomorrow! (Lol at polarization btw I never agree with this type of statement.)
No, the bandwagon
on Mariano, not a bandwagon vote by Mariano.
NinjaPenguin said:
A post has what is said and they way it is said. The second one is tone, which I consider much more indicative of alignment than the first. Simply put, a different mindset will produce a different appearing post.
You left out an important part of my post. Why do you think Mariano is scummier than jplap when, when looking at the foundations of each case, jplap's case encompasses the bases of Mariano's and more? Mathematically it doesn't check out.
NinjaPenguin said:
Consider that we're lynching our D2 guy D1 . The only difference: if the would-be D1 guy is town he gets investigation power going, which the D2 guy wouldn't be able to do.
Except that a lot can happen in a day so we wouldn't necessarily be lynching our D2 guy D1.
Very rarely early-game does the person who we think is gonna be lynched D2 at the end of D1 end up getting lynched. Why would this game be different? And it's a baseless assumption that jplap's action is gonna be better than whoever else we decide to lynch. In fact, considering jplap's action is terrible and I think will turn out to be one of the weakest in the game, the likelihood is that jplap's action will be worse than whoever else we decide to lynch. Again, you also omitted from my post where I asked you why you're so fixated on finding out about whether the indie is harmful or not. Why are you?