Finished Mafia XXXVIII: Battle for the Republic (Congratulations Darth Sidious!)

[Robin Aisaga]

Constant requests to speculate into the nightkill are scummy and unproductive, you are attacking people hypocritically, and you are posting at a much more infrequent rate than games you've been town in.

Constant requests? Dude... I only asked Scattered Mind if he had anything to say about the night kill. And those other two things you mentioned simply are not true. You really seem to be pushing it and that is scummy. I will vote place my vote on you later if you stick with these vague arguments.

I think I could have been, provided no one comes forward.

What do you mean by ''could've been'' Aren't you sure? What makes you think you were targeted or not

 

[quakingpunch73]

What do you mean by ''could've been'' Aren't you sure? What makes you think you were targeted or not

Every Night Period you may PM me to activate this ability. You will return to the Jedi Temple causing every Ability that would be used on you during that Night Period to be blocked. Any other Active Ability that you choose to use will also be blocked.]

I don't get any results back for the ability, so this means I don't know if I was targeted for the NK last night.

 

[quakingpunch73]

Whoops. "I don't get any results back for the ability, so this means I don't know if I was targeted for the NK last night" wasn't supposed to be quoted.

 

[NinjaPenguin]

Constant requests? Dude... I only asked Scattered Mind if he had anything to say about the night kill. And those other two things you mentioned simply are not true. You really seem to be pushing it and that is scummy.

Don't you have something to say about yesterday, the senate order or the night kill?

I was just wondering if you have anything to say about the what happened yesterday & last night

Anyway I hope later doesn't mean when it isn't relevant anymore.

I'm wondering if you wanting us to speculate on this is an attempt to find out what went wrong when it came to your kill.
Now, the other two points. You criticized us for some "last minute" lynch that was anything but, and you lurked plenty after that lynch. You could have found the 15 seconds to write "##VOTE: Raniy". In addition, I know you as an always vocal person. Your disappearing act seems perfect for a scum, but you get frantic and constantly check the thread to see if you've been spotted (it's what I did last game).

@Everyone Please stop claiming when you have no reason to. We don't want to give scum more information than they already have.

 

[Robin Aisaga]

Every Night Period you may PM me to activate this ability. You will return to the Jedi Temple causing every Ability that would be used on you during that Night Period to be blocked. Any other Active Ability that you choose to use will also be blocked.]

An ability that blocks both the night kill and every other targeting ability, every night. Sounds suspiciously powerful for town to have.

you lurked plenty after that lynch

I didn't pay enough attention at the remaining time and the vote count. I was planning to place my vote but I didn't get the moment. And sure it takes 15 seconds to write "##VOTE: Rainy" but placing a vote without anything to add is always taken the wrong way by other players. My checking thread / posting behaviour hasn't changed that much I think. Maybe you haven't been monitoring my profile like in other games so you came with a different conclusion.

 

[bbninjas]

@Jabberwock; Did you get any information on any more Senate's Orders? To everyone that thinks Jabber is scum, I think that if Jabber actually gets information on these orders, then he's got a very pro-town Ability that is pretty useless on scum.

P.S. Does anyone who played with @Scorched Feathers years ago know if this is their normal activity level?

This is their normal activity level. They are super scummy and lurk every game regardless of alignment, so they're very difficult to read. They're a good lynch if we're ever out of leads (which hopefully we don't come to this point).

Constant requests? Dude... I only asked Scattered Mind if he had anything to say about the night kill. And those other two things you mentioned simply are not true. You really seem to be pushing it and that is scummy. I will vote place my vote on you later if you stick with these vague arguments.

Attacking the person who is building a case on you is scummy, especially when their cases reasonable. NP may be exaggerating a few things, but the underlying points are true.

What do you mean by ''could've been'' Aren't you sure? What makes you think you were targeted or not

Major rolefish here, but I'm actually glad for it, because that ability of quaking's is quite telling.

Every Night Period you may PM me to activate this ability. You will return to the Jedi Temple causing every Ability that would be used on you during that Night Period to be blocked. Any other Active Ability that you choose to use will also be blocked.

He's killproof and action-proof, and he can use the Ability every Night. That's very powerful and a common scum Ability.

@Everyone Please stop claiming when you have no reason to. We don't want to give scum more information than they already have.

I disagree. We haven't lynched scum yet so we're still shooting in the dark and that information from roles can help us. Clearing town and catching scum via role reveals is exactly what roles are for.

@NinjaPenguin; While I agree that Robin is scummy, I don't think she's scum. Robin is normally scummy as town, and what they've been doing does not seem out of norm to me.

 

[bbninjas]

I'm not particularly confident on SM's lynch. I was confident before Day 3 begun, but he started scumhunting instead of sitting around as soon as Day 3 started, which made me rethink. I decided to push the wagon a bit anyway to just see who interacted with it, but no-one did except for SM, which is interesting in itself. Either way, ##UNVOTE: SM

 

[Scattered mind]

Constant requests? Dude... I only asked Scattered Mind if he had anything to say about the night kill. And those other two things you mentioned simply are not true. You really seem to be pushing it and that is scummy. I will vote place my vote on you later if you stick with these vague arguments.

This is the second time you find the one who is making points on you scummy. It makes your threat very shallow and scummy on their own.

@thegrovylekid I get it that from your point of view, considering you are not the one who is lying, Rainy is the best lynch. Nevertheless, even if he is scum, there are more scums we need to find. Can you share your thoughts on other players?

@rainyman123 - Are you there?

 

[Scattered mind]

NP's theory that neither Rainy nor TGK is scum? I don't like it much. It rings faintly of him trying to save a scumbuddy, especially since Blakers flipped town

If you don't believe that the two can be both town, I find it weird that you didn't vote Rainy. Why Blakers? A pressure vote over a legit case you agree with?

 

[thegrovylekid]

This is the second time you find the one who is making points on you scummy. It makes your threat very shallow and scummy on their own.

@thegrovylekid I get it that from your point of view, considering you are not the one who is lying, Rainy is the best lynch. Nevertheless, even if he is scum, there are more scums we need to find. Can you share your thoughts on other players?

@rainyman123 - Are you there?

I don't like how Lord o Da Rings (We need a good acronym for that Dx) has been paying 0 attention to this game, but that isn't too much of a scumtell.
SF is scummy though it is his meta, but he's done about nothing to contribute so I wouldn't mind his lynch.
Jesi has been extremely quiet, which is really unlike her. She also hasn't even been trying to contribute which is again out of her meta.
And then there's Rainy.

So if there's a 4-man scum team that's my bet for it.

And in terms of scumminess between them I'd say Rainy > Jesi > Lord o da rings/SF.

 

[VinculumStellarum]

Jesi has been extremely quiet, which is really unlike her. She also hasn't even been trying to contribute which is again out of her meta.

I've been really busy over these last few weeks. Lots of homework, although it's cleared up for the most part.

 

[thegrovylekid]

I've been really busy over these last few weeks. Lots of homework, although it's cleared up for the most part.

Who are your reads?

 

[Scattered mind]

I don't like how Lord o Da Rings (We need a good acronym for that Dx) has been paying 0 attention to this game, but that isn't too much of a scumtell.
SF is scummy though it is his meta, but he's done about nothing to contribute so I wouldn't mind his lynch.
Jesi has been extremely quiet, which is really unlike her. She also hasn't even been trying to contribute which is again out of her meta.
And then there's Rainy.

So if there's a 4-man scum team that's my bet for it.

And in terms of scumminess between them I'd say Rainy > Jesi > Lord o da rings/SF.

Your other reads are a bunch of inactive players? What are your thoughts on recent points made on NP, Robin, myself? What do you think about Jabber's pressure vote on Blakers?

 

[bbninjas]

I've been really busy over these last few weeks. Lots of homework, although it's cleared up for the most part.

I have a hard time believing this, considering you've spent so much time in the Skype chat. You've used the "lots of homework" excuse as scum before.

 

[thegrovylekid]

Your other reads are a bunch of inactive players? What are your thoughts on recent points made on NP, Robin, myself? What do you think about Jabber's pressure vote on Blakers?

Robin's playing almost exactly like he did in OitC, or what I remember it. NP's attempt to move suspicion off of someone who is nearly confirmed non-town is really bizarre in and of itself, and Jabber's vote is even stranger. Especially since Blakers flipped town.

 

[thegrovylekid]

Maybe it's my overall frustration with the inactive players talking. If Rainy flips scum we should look into NP and Jabber for pushing a frankly strange wagon onto Blakers. If he's indie (The OP confirms an independant faction) it depends on what character he flips. I can think of a lot of Indies but not many who'd have a partner.

 

[thegrovylekid]

A lot of potential indie characters*

 

[bbninjas]

##VOTE: quakingpunch

He spent all of Day 1 either defending rainy (and me intentionally or unintentionally) or trying to get rainy to elaborate on stuff. It's looks all fine and good, but it actually doesn't contribute to much. Day 2 begins, and he's wanting to lynch Rainy after TGK's claim. Not particularly abnormal, but interesting. The thing is, I haven't seen the scumhunting quakingpunch that I normally see when he's town; and in fact, this reminds me a lot of his play in Duck Hunt.

I think that rainy has a high chance of flipping scum because he's been caught in a lie. I'm beginning to think that NP and Jabber are likely scum for producing a weak case to turn the lynch away from their scumbuddy. On a side note, has anyone present been targeted for the night kill? I think I could have been, provided no one comes forward.

The need for quaking to clarify that his statements are his own opinion in the post above is odd. Town can do this, but they generally are not as wishy-washy and uncertain. The bolded part is most problematic for me. I can't find the right words, but it's over-cautious and something town wouldn't normally feel the need to say considering that other players have already said similar things.

Quaking was also very quick to claim a powerful Ability after being asked, which is also a tell because town tend to be much more reluctant. In addition, as said previously, that Ability is very powerful and I don't think it belongs to town.

tl;dr
- Not scumhunting like town quaking normally does
- Over-cautious
- Quick claim
- Very powerful Ability

 

[NinjaPenguin]

The Robin lynch isn't getting any momentum, so
##UNVOTE: Robin Aisaga
The case on Quaking is good. The whole "might have been targeted by the nightkill" looks like a scum trying to get townie points if the person they targeted doesn't come forwards.
##VOTE: quakingpunch73

You've used the "lots of homework" excuse as scum before.

Jesi hasn't been scum on here.

 

[bbninjas]

Jesi hasn't been scum on here.

I'm like 90% sure she has, unless I'm confusing her for someone else.