Standard Mega Gyardos (would appreciate input)

[Sneakytako]

Pokemon: 12
2 Gyrados EX (Breakpoint)
2 M Gyrados EX (Breaktpoint)
1 Manaphy EX (Breaktpoint)
1 Palkia EX (Breaktpoint)
1 Regice (Breaktpoint)
1 Articuno Delta(Roaring Skies)
4 (2-2) Octillery -Remoraid (Breakthrough)

Trainers/Supporters/Stadiums: 32
3 Professor Sycamore
2 Proffessor Birch
3 Lysandre
1 Pokemon Ranger
1 Hex Maniac
1 Skyla
1 Pokemon Fan Club
2 Trainers Mail
2 Vs seekers
4 Dive Ball
2 Gyrados Spirit Link
2 Escape Rope
2 Max Elixer
2 Professor's Letter
2 Roaring Seas
3 Fighting Fury Belt

Energies: 14
12 Water Energy
2 Double Colorless Energy

Strategy: The basic premise of this deck is simple; setup Mega Gyardos ASAP and sweep their team. My main priorities is to setup my field to include a Gyardos EX and a Manaphy EX. From there, I can freely switch from either relying on Gyrados EX to attach energy, or have Palkia Ex and Max Elixers attach energy to Gyrados EX on my bench. 4 Dive balls and a Pokemon Fan Club allow me to reliably draw my setup into Mega Gyrados, with Trainers Mail to help me get there.
Once I have Mega Gyrados, there's very few pokemon it can't OHKO with 4-5 energy. I use multiple Lysandres to keep the bench dry of energy, and sweep. Escape rope can also serve this function, with the free retreat from Manaphy I can simply retreat back into my Gyrados as long as my bench pokemon has an energy.
Pokemon Ranger and Hex Manic is to help against EX immune pokemon (Carbink, Regice, etc), in addition to my 3 Lysandre I can usually manage to not get locked out.
Skyla allows me to draw any one piece I am missing; Dive ball allows me to get the above pokemon, or I can search for a spirit link, or I find a professor's letter if I need energy, or an anti-lock supporter if I'm having trouble with a Garbodor or Trevanent.
12 Basic Water and 2 Double colorless is a ton of energy cards, but I feel like I need this many. With 12 basic cards, assuming I drew 0-1 basic water with my first hand, it gives me a 81.78% to 77.8% chance respectively of a Max elixir succeeding on my first turn, where 8 basic waters only give 65.3% to 59.9% chance respectively. It also allows to freely search and attach energies from Palkia and Gyardos without using fisherman or energy retrievals, while setting up a backup Gyardos or Palkia or Regice in case things go haywire.
Double Colorless serves two main functions: Allow Regice to spam Resistance Blizzard or accelerate Mega Gyardos at the cost of damage. Conditionally useful in faster match ups, I think it's worth putting in 2 copies.

Bad Match Ups:
M Mewtwo/Lugia EX - These types of cards add more damage for every energy attached to both pokemon. Since I want to attach 4+ energy to my pokemon, these types can do a lot of damage for not a lot of energy (Both only require a double colorless, M Mewtwo can be reduced to 1 with a dimensional valley). That's a lot of energy investment for my pokemon, even a 2 for 1 trade can end badly if I'm not prepared with my 2nd Gyardos.
M Manectric - Another low cost high damage MU, it's very difficult to keep up with their damage when their costs are so low. If I don't maintain momentum for the entire MU, I will lose most of the time.

Favorable Match Ups:
Fire decks - Pretty self explanatory, most of the time I don't even need to Mega evolve Gyardos, Gyrados EX can sweep just fine.
Trevanent break- This deck sets up fast enough and hits hard enough where I can sweep them once I mega evolve. It's highly unlikely that they can rack up 240 damage before I fully setup, and roaring seas totally negates Trevanent break.
Other Water MUs - I generally win these MUs, again this deck can generally OHKO just about every pokemon, and with Mega Gyrados having a whopping 240 hp it's difficult to be OHKOed back. With free retreat from Manaphy I can rotate pokemon to heal which makes roaring seas more value in with this deck compared to theirs.

Any input would be much appreciated, thanks for reviewing my deck.

 

[Naner]

Clawtizer can only accelerate special energies, and you have only 2 DCE in the deck...

 

[Sneakytako]

Clawtizer can only accelerate special energies, and you have only 2 DCE in the deck...

You're right, my older version used splash energy but I decided to cut them out when I decided to run max elixirs.

I guess I'll run -1 Clawtizer line and +1 Octillery line.

 

[Bluegrass_PokeMon]

Pokemon: 12
2 Gyrados EX (Breakpoint)
2 M Gyrados EX (Breaktpoint)
1 Manaphy EX (Breaktpoint)
1 Palkia EX (Breaktpoint)
1 Regice (Breaktpoint)
1 Articuno Delta(Roaring Skies)
4 (2-2) Octillery -Remoraid (Breakthrough)

Trainers/Supporters/Stadiums: 32
3 Professor Sycamore
2 Proffessor Birch
3 Lysandre
1 Pokemon Ranger
1 Hex Maniac
1 Skyla
1 Pokemon Fan Club
2 Trainers Mail
2 Vs seekers
4 Dive Ball
2 Gyrados Spirit Link
2 Escape Rope
2 Max Elixer
2 Professor's Letter
2 Roaring Seas
3 Fighting Fury Belt

Energies: 14
12 Water Energy
2 Double Colorless Energy

Strategy: The basic premise of this deck is simple; setup Mega Gyardos ASAP and sweep their team. My main priorities is to setup my field to include a Gyardos EX and a Manaphy EX. From there, I can freely switch from either relying on Gyrados EX to attach energy, or have Palkia Ex and Max Elixers attach energy to Gyrados EX on my bench. 4 Dive balls and a Pokemon Fan Club allow me to reliably draw my setup into Mega Gyrados, with Trainers Mail to help me get there.
Once I have Mega Gyrados, there's very few pokemon it can't OHKO with 4-5 energy. I use multiple Lysandres to keep the bench dry of energy, and sweep. Escape rope can also serve this function, with the free retreat from Manaphy I can simply retreat back into my Gyrados as long as my bench pokemon has an energy.
Pokemon Ranger and Hex Manic is to help against EX immune pokemon (Carbink, Regice, etc), in addition to my 3 Lysandre I can usually manage to not get locked out.
Skyla allows me to draw any one piece I am missing; Dive ball allows me to get the above pokemon, or I can search for a spirit link, or I find a professor's letter if I need energy, or an anti-lock supporter if I'm having trouble with a Garbodor or Trevanent.
12 Basic Water and 2 Double colorless is a ton of energy cards, but I feel like I need this many. With 12 basic cards, assuming I drew 0-1 basic water with my first hand, it gives me a 81.78% to 77.8% chance respectively of a Max elixir succeeding on my first turn, where 8 basic waters only give 65.3% to 59.9% chance respectively. It also allows to freely search and attach energies from Palkia and Gyardos without using fisherman or energy retrievals, while setting up a backup Gyardos or Palkia or Regice in case things go haywire.
Double Colorless serves two main functions: Allow Regice to spam Resistance Blizzard or accelerate Mega Gyardos at the cost of damage. Conditionally useful in faster match ups, I think it's worth putting in 2 copies.

Bad Match Ups:
M Mewtwo/Lugia EX - These types of cards add more damage for every energy attached to both pokemon. Since I want to attach 4+ energy to my pokemon, these types can do a lot of damage for not a lot of energy (Both only require a double colorless, M Mewtwo can be reduced to 1 with a dimensional valley). That's a lot of energy investment for my pokemon, even a 2 for 1 trade can end badly if I'm not prepared with my 2nd Gyardos.
M Manectric - Another low cost high damage MU, it's very difficult to keep up with their damage when their costs are so low. If I don't maintain momentum for the entire MU, I will lose most of the time.

Favorable Match Ups:
Fire decks - Pretty self explanatory, most of the time I don't even need to Mega evolve Gyardos, Gyrados EX can sweep just fine.
Trevanent break- This deck sets up fast enough and hits hard enough where I can sweep them once I mega evolve. It's highly unlikely that they can rack up 240 damage before I fully setup, and roaring seas totally negates Trevanent break.
Other Water MUs - I generally win these MUs, again this deck can generally OHKO just about every pokemon, and with Mega Gyrados having a whopping 240 hp it's difficult to be OHKOed back. With free retreat from Manaphy I can rotate pokemon to heal which makes roaring seas more value in with this deck compared to theirs.

Any input would be much appreciated, thanks for reviewing my deck.

What is the response of this deck to being ability locked by Garbodor?

 

[DatSonicAce]

I don't see the point of DCE. Only one Pokemon in your deck can use it adequately. Also, "Max Elixer" is spelled Max Elixir. Sorry, this bothered me, an alarming number of people on the forums make this spelling error

 

[Arizaiaz]

I would find space for another Max Elixir and a pair of Energy Switch. The Energy Switch allows you to still make use of energies you may have placed on Palkia EX or Regice by switching them onto your M Gyarados which you may have needed in order to secure a big OHKO. Or even switch energies onto Articuno to take an extra prize. They also synergize well with Manaphy's ability.

 

[Sneakytako]

What is the response of this deck to being ability locked by Garbodor?

Lysandre and Hex maniac (And to a lesser extent escape rope if they only have 1 bench pokemon) are my responses to garbodor. But honestly it's not THAT detrimental, the only abilities I'm using is Manaphy EX and Octillery, I think I'm also planning to add Hoopa EX but I still think I can manage. The bigger issue is trevenant Item lock, which lysandre and hex maniac are my only options.

I don't see the point of DCE. Only one Pokemon in your deck can use it adequately. Also, "Max Elixer" is spelled Max Elixir. Sorry, this bothered me, an alarming number of people on the forums make this spelling error

Double Colorless serves two main functions: Allow Regice to spam Resistance Blizzard or accelerate Mega Gyardos at the cost of damage. Conditionally useful in faster match ups, I think it's worth putting in 2 copies.
The following sequence happens a lot:
1st Turn: Play Gyarados EX (If not starting active, draw into manaphy EX and Gyarados EX, use Max Elixir to attach water energy to Gyarados EX, Attach water to active pokemon and retreat) Attach water energy from hand, use stormy seas to attach one more water energy
2nd Turn - Attach DCE and either attack with splash burn for 130, or Mega evolve and possibly attack for 160 with blast geyser.

I have a 25% chance of adding 1 energy, 25% chance of adding 2+ energy, and 50% chance of adding no energy. Even if I flip tails on the first one, I can still escape rope > Max Elixir > DCE > retreat if I have 1 energy on one of my bench pokemon, which will allow me to attack turn 2. So whatever the flip result on turn 1 I still have a chance to attack turn 2 with DCE provided I draw the right cards.

The DCE does come into play enough to warrant 2 copies imo, it also helps accelerate regice if I need to stall. (Max Elixir + DCE allows usage of Resistance Beam in 1 turn, + free retreat from Manaphy EX)

(Also I made sure to spell Elixir right this time )

I would find space for another Max Elixir and a pair of Energy Switch. The Energy Switch allows you to still make use of energies you may have placed on Palkia EX or Regice by switching them onto your M Gyarados which you may have needed in order to secure a big OHKO. Or even switch energies onto Articuno to take an extra prize. They also synergize well with Manaphy's ability.

I've thought about Energy Switch too, what would you replace for Energy Switch?

The problem with adding too many Max Elixirs is that as the game progresses it becomes less and less likely that max elixir will succeed. It's sometimes critical that I draw a Max Elixir in the first 1-3 turns, but I'm not sure what I would give up to get me that reliability.

I'm thinking about he following changes:
-4 Octillery line
+1 Hoopa EX
+1 Manaphy EX
+1 Lapras (XY Breakpoint)
+1 Energy Switch

Hoopa EX lets me draw the 3 main components of my deck: Gyarados EX, M Gyarados, Manaphy EX. Adding 1 Manaphy will lessen the likelihood of having it prize carded. I'm considering lapras just because I feel I mulligan a lot and it can serve as a pysdo skyla, and energy switch will help me pool my energy to Gyarados/Articuno/Regice depending on my situation.

Also considering replacing fighting fury belts because they don't affect M Gyarados, but I'm not sure what to put in.

Thanks for all the comments guys, I'm open to any and all suggestions.