Pokemon More Pure Flying Type Pokémon?

Light Type PoKéMoN Exist

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I have a simple question as to what characteristics as well as what aspects should a Pokémon have to be classified as a pure Flying Type.Please don't hesitate to post any ideas.And going on why has it taken the creators so long to give us pure Flying Type Pokémon such as Arceus when equiped with Sky Plate in generation 4 and Tornadus recently in generation 5.Does anyone think that we could expect to see more pure Flying Types in generation 6 and so fourth?
 
RE: More Pure Flying Type Pokémon

I really am not sure why there aren't more pure flying. It bugs me that they add in the Normal to all the flying types...I just want my birds to be flying...nothing else.
 
Its very weird because, Braiviary for example, looks as normal as any other main bird.
See what I did there?
Anyway, I would like birds to be pure flying, maybe the fighting weakness might come in handy. Since most birds are part normal, fighting does neutral damage.
 
Hazz said:
Its very weird because, Braiviary for example, looks as normal as any other main bird.
See what I did there?
Anyway, I would like birds to be pure flying, maybe the fighting weakness might come in handy. Since most birds are part normal, fighting does neutral damage.

So do you agree that the 24 existing Normal/Flying type birds should be retyped and be turned into pure flying types in Generation VI.
 
There's a reason why those birds are Normal/Flying...
For example, Skarmory is a metal bird, so it is Steel/Flying. Moltres is a fire bird, so Fire/Flying. I could go on but I think you already get the picture. So, these 2 birds I just mentioned have an element. The Normal/Flying birds are part Normal because they don't have any specific element linked to them, hence the Normal type. They're just "normal" birds.
Tornadus on the other hand, isn't a bird and it represents the japanese god of wind, so it has that one special element related to it, and as such it couldn't be Normal/Flying, so it is just Flying.
Basically, the birds are Normal/Flying because they are ordinary animals that can, well, fly; Tornadus is just Flying but more because of the Wind element. (also, it would be stupid if it was Flying/Flying)... I guess that's also the reason why the type is called Flying and not Wind or Bird...
 
Metalizard said:
There's a reason why those birds are Normal/Flying...
For example, Skarmory is a metal bird, so it is Steel/Flying. Moltres is a fire bird, so Fire/Flying. I could go on but I think you already get the picture. So, these 2 birds I just mentioned have an element. The Normal/Flying birds are part Normal because they don't have any specific element linked to them, hence the Normal type. They're just "normal" birds.
Tornadus on the other hand, isn't a bird and it represents the japanese god of wind, so it has that one special element related to it, and as such it couldn't be Normal/Flying, so it is just Flying.
Basically, the birds are Normal/Flying because they are ordinary animals that can, well, fly; Tornadus is just Flying but more because of the Wind element. (also, it would be stupid if it was Flying/Flying)... I guess that's also the reason why the type is called Flying and not Wind or Bird...

^this.

Also, I wouldn't mind more pure Flying, but they'd have to be part of some sort of mythology, or at least not a bird to be pure flying. If Ninendo ever makes a bird that is pure flying I will be very suprised.
 
Metalizard said:
There's a reason why those birds are Normal/Flying...
For example, Skarmory is a metal bird, so it is Steel/Flying. Moltres is a fire bird, so Fire/Flying. I could go on but I think you already get the picture. So, these 2 birds I just mentioned have an element. The Normal/Flying birds are part Normal because they don't have any specific element linked to them, hence the Normal type. They're just "normal" birds.
Tornadus on the other hand, isn't a bird and it represents the japanese god of wind, so it has that one special element related to it, and as such it couldn't be Normal/Flying, so it is just Flying.
Basically, the birds are Normal/Flying because they are ordinary animals that can, well, fly; Tornadus is just Flying but more because of the Wind element. (also, it would be stupid if it was Flying/Flying)... I guess that's also the reason why the type is called Flying and not Wind or Bird...
Nice reason dude and I love Tornadus I have all his atributes.
 
Hatman said:
^this.

Also, I wouldn't mind more pure Flying, but they'd have to be part of some sort of mythology, or at least not a bird to be pure flying. If Ninendo ever makes a bird that is pure flying I will be very suprised.

How about a Griffin that would be so EPIC : )
 
Light Type PoKéMoN Exist said:
How about a Griffin that would be so EPIC : )

I would imagine it would be Fighting/Flying.

Hmmm that is good reasoning but who cares if it's a "normal" bird...it's a bird....it flies...make it flying type with nothing else xD.

I'm gonna say they are gonna go for more inanimate objects in gen 6. I expect some kind of airplane pokemon...besides Garchomp >_>
 
catutie said:
I would imagine it would be Fighting/Flying.

Hmmm that is good reasoning but who cares if it's a "normal" bird...it's a bird....it flies...make it flying type with nothing else xD.

I'm gonna say they are gonna go for more inanimate objects in gen 6. I expect some kind of airplane pokemon...besides Garchomp >_>
Yea your right if it is a normal bird why not let be just flying and lol @ I expect some kind of airplane pokemon...besides Garchomp!!
 
Lol, because the Normal type exists for something... Going by that logic, the pure normal type Pokémon would have no need for a type. Let's say Tornadus was able to learn Roost, and then uses it (or any other temporarly pure Flying type pokémon). It becomes a pure Normal-type for that turn. But before gen V, they would become ???-type. They removed the ???-type in gen V, giving even more purpose of existance to the Normal type. One curious case is that of Togepi which is just Normal-type but when it evolves, it gains the Flying-type as a secondary type, mostly because, as a Togetic, it gains wings.

Imagine that there were these 3 types in the game at the same time: Flying, Wind & Bird. Consider the Bird type as a paralel to the Bug type which represents only pokémon based on those specific animals.
If these 3 types existed at the same time, the Normal/Flying birds, wouldn't be Normal/Flying anymore, they would be Bird/Flying. Doduo & Dodrio are even a better example to demonstrate this. They wouldn't be Normal/Flying, nor Bird/Flying, they would just be "Bird-type" (Despite Dodrio being able to learn Fly, we all know ostriches can't fly).
Other example would be Tornadus: it wouldn't be Bird-type, obviously. But it also wouldn't be just Flying. It would be Wind/Flying. Another that would be of the Wind type, but not Flying type would be Suicune because it is related to the North Winds; it would be Water/Wind.
This would apply to attacks too. Examples: Gust would be a Wind-type attack instead of Flying. Brave Bird would be a Bird-type attack instead of Flying. Fly would still be a Flying-type because it is related to the ability of Flying. In this hypothetical situation, the Flying-type would just represent the fact that the pokémon can fly.
Which is what it does to some pokémon actually. Thundurus & Landorus for example are real Flying-types just like Tornadus, yet they can't learn any Flying type attack by Level up and the only attack they learn by TM&HMs is none other than "Fly" (Thundurus can also learn Sky Drop, but that move is also related to the act of flying. Strangely, Landorus can't learn it, probably because it represents the land).

Of course, having these 3 types in the same game would be too stupid and it would cause conflicts with some bird-based pokémon. Some of them would have to be of 3 different types. Moltres for example (one of the birds I mentioned in the previous post) would have to be Fire, Bird AND Flying type. Some pokémon already suffer from the lack of triple types such as Reshiram & Zekrom. They can fly but since they already have 2 types each, and lack the Levitate ability (which remedies a bit the lack of triple typing), they are susceptible to Ground attacks.
Now, I am not suggesting they should make Pokémon have 3 types in the games. And returning to the Flying/Wind/Bird hypothetical situation, they named the type "Flying" to make a bridge between these 3 attributes. In other words, the Flying-type in the game covers pratically everything that:
1) it's a bird
2) can fly
3) directly represents the sky/wind. In this case, and speaking about Suicune again, since it can't fly, just because it represents the North winds, it is not enough to make it Water/Flying (which would also sound stupid). Tornadus, on the other hand, can fly and since there's only the Flying type in the games (for convenience), it is pure Flying.

One last thing about the Bird-type: It exists in the beta version of Red & Green. And Missingno., which a lot of people like to think it's a real pokémon, is Bird/Normal, but it is a glitch, so it's an unnecessary combination. Like I said, the Dodrio line would just have to be Bird type, not Normal/Bird. Again, for convenience, they changed it to "Flying". They couldn't apply the Bird type to a pokémon like Charizard. And if, for some reason, we still had the Bird-type instead of the Flying-type, Tornadus would now be a pure Bird-type lol...

I hope you all understand what I'm trying to explain here. I also used to think the Normal/Flying combo was pointless, but it has been some time since I came to the conclusion that it actually makes sense. I'm just sharing with you the logical explanation I tried to find to explain the reason for the Normal/Flying combo.
 
Metalizard has won the thread.

But besides his reasons I've always seen Flying as something like a secondary type mainly to show th2t something of some other element is capable of flight. Of course this doesn't apply to all as we have Flygon who isn't flying but has levitate instead, but in general it still applies.
 
^Exactly... Flying is more of a secondary type... That's why all dual-type pokémon that are part Flying, have it as the 2nd type, not the primary one...
 
I think the only all flying types we w

Could see are an eeveelution and another wind spirit
 
It is interesting that all Flying type pokemon has it as their secondary type(except for Tornadus of course).

Though I wonder..... well, in R/B/Y the Flying type is believed to originally be called the Bird type, but it was changed due to some Flying types like Charizard, Zubat, Golbat, etc. not resembling Birds.(Yes, many people believe that Charizard was originally going to be Fire/Bird) So, maybe something happen in the coding when they added the Flying type that would crash the game if the pokemon is pure Flying. To fix it, they just gave all the flying type pokemon duo types. It's plausible.
 
Coding fixes. Illegal operations happen all the time in games in their early forms. Red and Blue had quite the amount of glitches in it, the most notable one being missingno. Would you expect a game to be perfect, especially way back in the gaming era?
 
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