NFL Discussion Topic - Favorite Teams and How They are Doing
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CCloud said:
You left out the NFC East, that division will be up for grabs cause any one of those teams have a shot at winning it.
RE: Is Homosexuality A Choice?
I don't think anyone really changes their sexuality over time, I think it is just that person's realization (from learning about themselves and exploring their natural feelings) of a sexual preference that has always been there. It seems like the societal norms of today will often force gay people to build in themselves an alternate personality/orientation that is more accepting in society. But I think what people see as a person "switching" their preference or "choosing it" is really just that person's realization or acceptance of their true sexual identity. This realization is inevitable, I don't think it is something decided by environment or upbringing, but that's not to say that environment can't promote or hinder it.
Personally I think having an attraction to the same gender is a chemical wiring in the brain that is there from birth, just like being straight is. Everyone that I've ever talked to always says that it was never their decision, and I know that is absolutely true. And as people have mentioned, who really cares what someone else prefersanyway? It's kind of ridiculous that this is even considered an issue.
I don't think anyone really changes their sexuality over time, I think it is just that person's realization (from learning about themselves and exploring their natural feelings) of a sexual preference that has always been there. It seems like the societal norms of today will often force gay people to build in themselves an alternate personality/orientation that is more accepting in society. But I think what people see as a person "switching" their preference or "choosing it" is really just that person's realization or acceptance of their true sexual identity. This realization is inevitable, I don't think it is something decided by environment or upbringing, but that's not to say that environment can't promote or hinder it.
Personally I think having an attraction to the same gender is a chemical wiring in the brain that is there from birth, just like being straight is. Everyone that I've ever talked to always says that it was never their decision, and I know that is absolutely true. And as people have mentioned, who really cares what someone else prefersanyway? It's kind of ridiculous that this is even considered an issue.
RE: Is Homosexuality A Choice?
Religious folks, bigots, homophobes, rednecks, anyone who lived during the mid-1900s and also thought the civil rights movement was bad, actual gay people, etc.
Other than that, it's simply a topic to see what people think about it. Not nearly as bad as asking someone their opinions on gay marriage, atheists, border relations, civil wars in other countries, etc. I find it nice to discuss things where peoples' morals are a huge factor in their answer; it opens the room for good discussion.
Elite Stride said:
Religious folks, bigots, homophobes, rednecks, anyone who lived during the mid-1900s and also thought the civil rights movement was bad, actual gay people, etc.
Other than that, it's simply a topic to see what people think about it. Not nearly as bad as asking someone their opinions on gay marriage, atheists, border relations, civil wars in other countries, etc. I find it nice to discuss things where peoples' morals are a huge factor in their answer; it opens the room for good discussion.
CCloud said:
The NFC West, after years of being the leagues' doormat is now the strongest division in the entire NFL.
After Seattle won the division at 7-9 a few years ago, I hope we never see another below-.500 division winner in the playoffs again.
RE: Is Homosexuality A Choice?
So do I.
My obvious point in that question was that it shouldn't matter whether you like guys or gals. Of course it's a topic that calls for discussion by people with different morals/interpretations. There are certainly people, like religious folk, who have very strong opinions on homosexuality. Although I find that a very large portion of the religious community, and the population in general, is beginning to shift away from an anti-gay mentality.
unsheathed said:
So do I.
My obvious point in that question was that it shouldn't matter whether you like guys or gals. Of course it's a topic that calls for discussion by people with different morals/interpretations. There are certainly people, like religious folk, who have very strong opinions on homosexuality. Although I find that a very large portion of the religious community, and the population in general, is beginning to shift away from an anti-gay mentality.
RE: Is Homosexuality A Choice?
Homosexuality is not a choice. We are all born with tastes, likes, interests, etc. The same thing goes for sexual attraction to people.
We are on here because we like Pokemon. Pokemon relates to our tastes. I believe people should be treated equally, we are all human afterall.
As a friend of mine puts it:
"Why IS being gay even an issue? it doesn't even concern others."
Homosexuality is not a choice. We are all born with tastes, likes, interests, etc. The same thing goes for sexual attraction to people.
We are on here because we like Pokemon. Pokemon relates to our tastes. I believe people should be treated equally, we are all human afterall.
As a friend of mine puts it:
"Why IS being gay even an issue? it doesn't even concern others."
RE: Is Homosexuality A Choice?
If a good number of people finds Z* enjoyable and you don't care, there is still a good chance that you would enjoy it too once you get into it, but you might never get a chance to seriously give it a chance in life because:
- you just don't know anyone who cares so you don't care
- you might have formed an opinion about it too lightly
- you never found something that would spark your interest / you don't even know enough about it to get you interested
- society looks down on it (see case Justin Bieber etc.)
- etc.
*try replacing Z with:
- basketball
- ice hockey
- strolling
- playing FPS-games
- Pokémon
- watching TV
- surfing on the Internet (think how an old person who never has done it would react)
That's just silly. What you call here "taste" just has to do with life choices that result from exposure and social pressure.TokenDuelist said:
If a good number of people finds Z* enjoyable and you don't care, there is still a good chance that you would enjoy it too once you get into it, but you might never get a chance to seriously give it a chance in life because:
- you just don't know anyone who cares so you don't care
- you might have formed an opinion about it too lightly
- you never found something that would spark your interest / you don't even know enough about it to get you interested
- society looks down on it (see case Justin Bieber etc.)
- etc.
*try replacing Z with:
- basketball
- ice hockey
- strolling
- playing FPS-games
- Pokémon
- watching TV
- surfing on the Internet (think how an old person who never has done it would react)
RE: Is Homosexuality A Choice?
You did NOT just bring the Beibs into this. Aw HELL naw
I cannot speak for all homosexuals, but I for one did not have the choice of whether or not I wanted to be gay. And I've asked myself the question "Would I go straight if I could?" many times. In the beginning, yes. At this point, no. I feel that being gay has made me a better more accepting person. And I love myself just the way I am
Teal said:
I cannot speak for all homosexuals, but I for one did not have the choice of whether or not I wanted to be gay. And I've asked myself the question "Would I go straight if I could?" many times. In the beginning, yes. At this point, no. I feel that being gay has made me a better more accepting person. And I love myself just the way I am
RE: Is Homosexuality A Choice?
Fair enough, all I'm trying to say is that we are all born with our sexualities. It isn't a choice and it's about damn time society stops seeing it that way.
Teal said:
Fair enough, all I'm trying to say is that we are all born with our sexualities. It isn't a choice and it's about damn time society stops seeing it that way.
RE: Is Homosexuality A Choice?
That's what I can agree on. I wouldn't say "society" though, I would rather say "some people". It seems to be pretty 50-50 to me. Treating someone badly based on something so personal and minor (it's just who you like, should be no big deal) is just stupid.TokenDuelist said:
RE: Is Homosexuality A Choice?
In my opinion, homosexuality is just fine and IT IS NOT a choice. In my opinion, it's just a preference you can't effect on and which develops (guess that's the right word) over time.
I think it's weird to say that homosexuality is a choice. I really don't know why, but to me it just seems like a natural thing you can't just affect.
In my opinion, homosexuality is just fine and IT IS NOT a choice. In my opinion, it's just a preference you can't effect on and which develops (guess that's the right word
) over time. I think it's weird to say that homosexuality is a choice. I really don't know why, but to me it just seems like a natural thing you can't just affect.
RE: Is Homosexuality A Choice?
Please, enlighten me, and show me these "scientific" studies. I am not sure who published these utterly false studies, whether it be FOX News or otherwise, but clearly, they are ignorant -- no, just plain stupid -- regarding sexual sciences.
Haunted Water said:
Please, enlighten me, and show me these "scientific" studies. I am not sure who published these utterly false studies, whether it be FOX News or otherwise, but clearly, they are ignorant -- no, just plain stupid -- regarding sexual sciences.
RE: Is Homosexuality A Choice?
No. It's not a choice. This has been proven multiple times, and homosexuality has been studied in animals. Those who slander gays / lesbians are pathetic human beings. Whether it be driven by religion or not, which in itself is despicable.
No. It's not a choice. This has been proven multiple times, and homosexuality has been studied in animals. Those who slander gays / lesbians are pathetic human beings. Whether it be driven by religion or not, which in itself is despicable.
CCloud said:
Well, it depends who the NFC East division winner will face (if they don't get the first-round bye) in the Wild Card round.
If what happened last year happens this year (NFC East Div. Winner vs. Seattle/San Francisco), it'll be one-and-done for Dallas/NY Giants/Washington in the 2013 NFL Playoffs.
Well, Aaron Hernandez left him home today in handcuffs in the ongoing investigation around the homicide of semi-pro football player Odin Lloyd, who's body was found a mile from Hernandez's home.
Speaking of Hernandez, the Patriots just released him from his contract.
RE: Is Homosexuality A Choice?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uq5nmUTx6eI
This is what I was referring to. I remembered it, but again, the entire argument confuses me, so please excuse any offense I may have caused. I did not mean it.
Dustin DeVine said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uq5nmUTx6eI
This is what I was referring to. I remembered it, but again, the entire argument confuses me, so please excuse any offense I may have caused. I did not mean it.
RE: Is Homosexuality A Choice?
If people would read my first post, none of this would be happening.
You postulated that through that study, homosexuality is a choice. You should not assume so, because the studies never said that. Please refer to my first post, on the first page, for an explanation of epigenetics.
Now that you have hopefully read my first post, let us talk about epigenetics and homosexuality. Epignetics are manipulated, influenced, et cetera outside of the genetic code, meaning, it is not actually in the DNA, but it is hereditary. The sexual orientation of a fetus is determined before birth, because the parent passes the gene to their children. It is not necessarily a "gay gene," but it is more like a set of genes. The mother passes the set of genes to the son and he is homosexual. Similarly, the father passes the genes to the daughter. It is not a choice.
That is my take on epigenetics, at least.
Haunted Water said:
If people would read my first post, none of this would be happening.
You postulated that through that study, homosexuality is a choice. You should not assume so, because the studies never said that. Please refer to my first post, on the first page, for an explanation of epigenetics.
Now that you have hopefully read my first post, let us talk about epigenetics and homosexuality. Epignetics are manipulated, influenced, et cetera outside of the genetic code, meaning, it is not actually in the DNA, but it is hereditary. The sexual orientation of a fetus is determined before birth, because the parent passes the gene to their children. It is not necessarily a "gay gene," but it is more like a set of genes. The mother passes the set of genes to the son and he is homosexual. Similarly, the father passes the genes to the daughter. It is not a choice.
That is my take on epigenetics, at least.