Nidoqueen from Rising Rivals (#30), 5/4/2010

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Guiding questions:
1. How does the card stand on its own? Is it good, bad, or have potential? Is it worth being played?
2. What popular metagame decks is it used in?
3. What combos can you use it with? How so?
4. Give it a rating, and explain why you have given it that rating. You can also rate the card by rating the thread itself (out of 5 stars).
5. How's the artwork?

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First unless ninja'd

1. It's okay. A good Jumpluff tech, I s'pose.
2. Donphan, specifically. Or anything that needs some healing.
3. Donphan^
4. 3/5 Stars, could be more, could be less. Depends on the deck.
5. She has a weird look on her face... Looks like she's mourning the death of something...
 
1. sorta, it's not something to base your deck around but can do decent damage on its own.
2. every deck
3 ditto and not the one your thinking of
4. 4.5/5 its good in every possible way but can be countered.
5. not really, it just looks like its reaching for the cookie jar on the top shelf:p
 
yay Thrid!

1. How does the card stand on its own? Is it good, bad, or have potential? Is it worth being played?
This card is a GRREAAT tech card as well as a great secondary attacker.
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2. What popular metagame decks is it used in?
he can be used in many differnet decks like Donphan and Gengar.

3. What combos can you use it with? How so?
i think i explained.
4. Give it a rating, and explain why you have given it that rating. You can also rate the card by rating the thread itself (out of 5 stars).
i give this card a 9.9/10 because of it's ability to make cards like gengar and flygon and donphan tank.

5. How's the artwork?the art work is cool but it almost looks like she's climbing out of a hole.
 
1. I think Nidoqueen has potential is every deck. Healing is always an important factor, and definetly worth being played.

2. Donphan, mostly. I use it, and I works great.

3. Again, Donphan, but I can basically be played in any deck, if used well.

4. 9/10 It's a great card. Helpful in a lot of ways.

5. 4/5 I like it! I think she is looking up to heaven for hope. It's different, either way.
 
1. One energy does 40 damage, while two can do up to 110. Used mainly in donphan decks.
2. Donphan... :p
3. Donphan, its pokebody can relieve the damage from donphans earthquake.
4. 4/5, bulky retreat and it's a stage 2.
5. 2.5/5, it looks like she's being stalked... O_O
 
1. How does the card stand on its own? Is it good, bad, or have potential? Is it worth being played?

Lol, 40 damage for the price of a single energy card isn't half bad at all. Considering the last time I really sat down and played a Poke'mon TCG was back when base/fossil/jungle sets were first coming out I'd say this card would own pretty badly.

2. What popular metagame decks is it used in?

I'm not quite sure how to answer this one, last time I really paid attention to the TCG or played it rather was back when there was 151 Poke'mon lol.

3. What combos can you use it with? How so?

You can use it wisely to heal your benched Poke'mon and do some major damage for the price of little energy costs.

4. Give it a rating, and explain why you have given it that rating. You can also rate the card by rating the thread itself (out of 5 stars).

LOL, this thread made me open up my boxes of Poke'mon cards that haven't seen light in like a decade!! My Nidoqueen still looks like it's in good conditions and best of all it's holographic....man that brings back memories....

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I'm' just taking this into perception of when Poke'mon TCG was very popular when I grew up with it. I'd say 5/5 mainly because Mega Punch needs 4 times the amount of energy for the same attack only 50 damage instead of 40. And the Jungle aka original aka old-skool Nidoqueen had 90 HP and is weak to the Psychic type, which the Nidoqueen from Rising Rivals is.

5. How's the artwork?

1/5 compared to the original Jungle one. In my opinion, nothing can top the original artwork for the base/fossil/jungle sets, they were so epic and amazing at a time when Poke'mon frenzy was a widespread popularity.
 
If you've never seen this card, it's probably because you've never played competitively. Really, just look at it's Pokebody. Just for that, you'd put this card into nearly any deck you can.

This card is really good, but it's not perfect. It only attacks okay on it's own. Mega Punch is a value attack at 40 output for only 1 energy. Ruthless Tail was a lot harder to pay for until Double Colorless Energy became an option. But in all seriousness, you wouldn't attack with this card unless you were forced to, and when it comes to that, it has a retreat cost of 3 to prevent an easy getaway. Thankfully, both Moonlight Stadium and Metagross from Unleashed give it some needed help. So does Flygon from Supreme Victors. In a deck that revolves around Flygon, Nidoqueen is a good tech, anyway.

The real reason you play this card is for it's Maternal Comfort PokeBody, which adds survivability to any high-HP pokemon. Good candidates are (but are far from limited to):
-Gengar, which retreats for free. A tag-team of Gengars is a frightening thing.
-Donphan, which already benefits from Exoskeleton to reduce it's damage by 20. It also mops up the residual damage from Earthquake.
-Flygon. Bulky already, and helps Nidoqueen retreat for free.
-Steel types that benefit from special Metal Energy. Except Dialga G lv X, for obvious reasons.
-Any deck that isn't a Shuppet-Donk, SP with Dialga G, or anything that for some odd reason or another would not benefit from having it's damage quickly melt away.

Now let's kill it. Thankfully, we have a gold standard: Dialga G lv X eliminates any benefit that Nidoqueen provides to the team, making it nearly worthless as anything besides an attacker, which it wasn't great at to begin with. Luxray GL lv X may not do much damage to it, but it can fish Nidoqueen up from the bench so a Gengar could Shadow Skip it, which isn't lethal unless either a Lake Boundary or Lucario GL is in play. Pokemon Reversal can be used instead of Luxray GL lv X if you're not rich and are feeling lucky.

It takes a high-damage pokemon to one-shot this card, and if that's not possible, it's ideal to do 70 damage each turn over the course of 2 turns, granted they don't retreat. When this card is played, it's expected that the other player have some retreat aid, and it helps to remove that aid however you can (Dialga G lv X if you have it, or play your own stadium to replace Moonlight Stadium). Your opponent does not want this card in the active spot, so bring it up there, then attack as hard as you can. The longer this card stays in play, the more effect it can have on the game.

Nidoqueen from Rising Rivals gets a score of 3.5 out of 5.

Overall, this card suffers most from the existence of Dialga G lv X. If it weren't for that one card seeing such heavy play, you would be seeing a lot more of Nidoqueen. And why not? I still see it played with nearly anything, so Dialga is apparently still not enough to discourage many from playing this card. Also, spread decks hate this card.
 
Guiding questions:
1. How does the card stand on its own? Is it good, bad, or have potential? Is it worth being played?
Ehh, on it's own not too bad. Obviously it would be a beast at a prerelease, healing, hitting 40 for one, and up to 100 for three.
2. What popular metagame decks is it used in?
Quite a few. I'd say the most common is Mother Gengar, But I've seen it in Flychamp, as well as Plox and CurseGar.
3. What combos can you use it with? How so?
I don't see it used enough in Donphan. It should be more. It can really be thrown into anything as a 1-0-1 tech for healing.
4. Give it a rating, and explain why you have given it that rating. You can also rate the card by rating the thread itself (out of 5 stars).
5. How's the artwork?
TERRIBLE. Why is it that good cards all have terrible art? I usually hate Midori Harada, and I'd say this is one of her worst.
 
1. How does the card stand on its own? Is it good, bad, or have potential? Is it worth being played? It's not so good on it's own. 3 for 90 is way too slow and one for 40 can be topped easily.
2. What popular metagame decks is it used in? Mothergar, Flygon, Flyphan, and probably some others.
3. What combos can you use it with? How so? Use it in tank decks to help the tanking. Not much else.
4. Give it a rating, and explain why you have given it that rating. You can also rate the card by rating the thread itself (out of 5 stars). 3/5. Slow, and shut down by Dialga G, but it's healing is beast.
5. How's the artwork? Not a fan. It looks too flat. Not much dimension. What happened to Nidoqueen's curves?
 
1. Well this card has a heart of its own. The 40 damage for one card and also the ruthless power with two energies is absolutely marvelous, since it has the pokebody to heal, no doubt this is a well constructed card for only a rare.
2. I don't think it will reach the metagama, but as a supporter it is worth while to actually pack one of this babies.
3. The best combo is with beedrill GE because they have the same effect in attacks so it's a two in one deal.
4. {C}{C}{C}{C} out of five, since it actually can do well on its own and also the nidoqueen line has always had a good potential.
5. Generic, yet good, a really good exhibition of "maternal comfort".


Thoughts:
Since the base deck the nido line has left out from some odd reason, the were the first true tank/power houses of the tcg and video games.
So in favor to the nido line, show some love.
 
1: It is a good card to use depending on the type of deck you run. The Poké-Body alone makes it worth decking.
2: Dunno, but it forms part of my Nido deck, Royal Rumble Reborn
3: For combos, it's best used when you have a full bench of Pokémon, as it can then do 100 damage straight off with Ruthless Tail. The healing Pokébody is also good, as it can counter some of the Status Conditions
4: I give it a 5, as it's one of the most important cards in my deck considering it's ability and moves.
5: I'd say the art for the card is quite good.
 
Maybe not so great low HP but great ruthless tail. Bad with dusknoir's damage even cause its dumb pokebody heals it
 
1. It stands really well on its own, it has a solid 120hp and with resistance to electric means it reduces luxray lv. x. Has a decent first attack with only one energy and the second attack is great if your opponet loads thier bench aka jumpluff

2. Its used in many decks but mainly donphan, some stallgons, and a few cursegars.

3. Any deck could use it as a good benchwarmer limiting the number of heal cards needed but two particular combos are a bench warmer for donphan to increase trucking potential and to counter the earthquake and as a swinger in a weavile (sw) deck with weavile as a bench warmer and special darks.

4. 4.5/5 The card has two minor flaws. High retreat and an attack that's too dependent on your opponent (ruthless tail), like jumpluff.

5. Not very good, seems like it's based too much on oil painting and it looks like nidoqueen is stuck in a hole dug by Team Rocket.
 
1. How does the card stand on its own? Is it good, bad, or have potential? Is it worth being played?
It's definitely worth being played, but it's mostly played as a tech. Its second attack, Ruthless Tail, can definitely add up the damage quickly, and could double as a revenge kill. However, as a tech, it's in danger of being pulled up to the Active spot, and with a retreat cost of 3, even higher than Claydol, it'll be harder to get out.

2. What popular metagame decks is it used in?
Not a lot lately, though it can fit into a lot of things. I think Flyphan variants might have them.

3. What combos can you use it with? How so?
It's not really much of a combo so much as a heal for all Pokemon you have in play. It stops spread decks cold.

4. Give it a rating, and explain why you have given it that rating. You can also rate the card by rating the thread itself (out of 5 stars).
3/5 mostly because of its hefty retreat cost. If not for that it might probably be better. Maternal Comfort is great, don't get me wrong, but it needs to be G'd or something.

5. How's the artwork?
ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
 
1. How does the card stand on its own? Is it good, bad, or have potential? Is it worth being played?
This card has dual function for me first is use the pokebody for defense and second is u can also attack with some massive damage from the second attack

2. What popular metagame decks is it used in?
i use in my garchomp deck.

3. What combos can you use it with? How so?
it can be combined with almost every deck since the pokebody allow u to heal all ur pokemon in play no matter what type is it. And sometimes i use spiritomb's darkness grace with no damage because there is nidoqueen in my bench.lol

4. Give it a rating, and explain why you have given it that rating. You can also rate the card by rating the thread itself (out of 5 stars).
3.8 star

5. How's the artwork?
i love the artwork i like almost the midori harada's and atsuko nishida's art work. :)
 
How does the card stand on its own? Is it good, bad, or have potential? Is it worth being played?
It's totally worth being played as long as it works well. It really helps with keeping your attacker to alive. Just don't use it in a Stage 2 deck.

What popular metagame decks is it used in?
Just about anything. Dumbo, plain Donphan, Mother/Cursegar, etc.

What combos can you use it with? How so?
Look above :p

Give it a rating, and explain why you have given it that rating. You can also rate the card by rating the thread itself (out of 5 stars).
4.5/5. It has a huge retreat cost for the metagame, and it's attack is not bad but its not the best either...

How's the artwork?
I like it. But I don't really hate a whole lot of artwork either.
 
DNA said:
1. How does the card stand on its own? Is it good, bad, or have potential? Is it worth being played?
It's definitely worth being played, but it's mostly played as a tech. Its second attack, Ruthless Tail, can definitely add up the damage quickly, and could double as a revenge kill. However, as a tech, it's in danger of being pulled up to the Active spot, and with a retreat cost of 3, even higher than Claydol, it'll be harder to get out.

2. What popular metagame decks is it used in?
Not a lot lately, though it can fit into a lot of things. I think Flyphan variants might have them.

3. What combos can you use it with? How so?
It's not really much of a combo so much as a heal for all Pokemon you have in play. It stops spread decks cold.

4. Give it a rating, and explain why you have given it that rating. You can also rate the card by rating the thread itself (out of 5 stars).
3/5 mostly because of its hefty retreat cost. If not for that it might probably be better. Maternal Comfort is great, don't get me wrong, but it needs to be G'd or something.

5. How's the artwork?
ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
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I strongly agree with you
 
1. It´s a Great Card because it´s Healing Body Works in some Decks
2. Nothing in Finland, Maybe in Gengar....
3. Donphan, Gengar, Flygonphan, FlyChamp and Tyrannitar. It´s Tanked every these cards and with Tyranitar it heals the Damage what Tyrannitar makes on to the Bench...
4 4.99/5. It´s a Perfect card in Some Decks so its 4.99/5
5. Artwork Terrible...
 
1. How does the card stand on its own? Is it good, bad, or has potential? Is it worth playing?

Nidoqueen is most often not that good on its own, but it is possible that it can. I seen a deck that used this Nidoqueen as the main attacker along with Weavile SW and Claydol for support. Indeed, it can be good, both as an attacker and a tech. Its Poke-Body is the number one reason why it is used. The ability to remove a damage counter from each of your Pokemon every turn is just really good. Furthermore, I really like the second attack. Yes, it uses several energies, but if your opponent has a full bench, you can be doing 100. Now that's good. Thus, it is good and can have potential. It is worth playing in stage 2 decks. Why not SPs? Well, SPs already have Garchomp as their healer.

2. What popular metagame decks is it used in?

There are like so many decks that use Nidoqueen, primarily non SP decks. Flygon is especially noted for this. So many Flygon decks will use Nidoqueen most of the time as a tech, like Stallgon Donphan decks may also use Nidoqueen. After all, Nidoqueen helps Donphan because healing damage off Donphan really can make Donphan a tank. Gengar SF often uses Nidoqueen too, and that's what creates the metagame deck Mother Gengar.

3. What comboes can you use it with?

There really won't be much to say. It fits in almost any non SP deck, so I won't be really detailed here. I would play Nidoqueen with something that can be take damage well, like Donphan. Donphan reduces 20 damage from an attack, giving it good defense, comboes with good HP. With Nidoqueen, I would use it to heal my Donphan so that it can be really defensive, thus turning Donphan into a real tank.

4. Give it a rating, and explain why you would give it that rating.

I would give Nidoqueen 4/5. Nidoqueen is probably one of the best techs out there. The ability to remove 1 damage counter from each of your Pokemon between turns is very useful. That's just the primary reason why it used so often. The body is also the reason why spread decks don't thrive as they used too. As an attacker, I think Nidoqueen is not bad. The only main downside is the heavy retreat cost and that's about it in my opinion.

5. How's the artwork.

Well, it's fine if your ask me. In fact, I think this is one of the better artworks for Nidoqueen. No wonder Midori Harads draws so well!
 
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