Discussion Paldean Fates Official Setlist (SV4.5)

[dineinunes]

The spotlight glistens on Shiny Pokémon making their fated return to the Pokémon TCG! Shiny Pikachu blazes the path forward as Tinkaton, Ceruledge, Dondozo, and more than 100 other Shiny Pokémon follow. Meanwhile, Great Tusk and Iron Treads appear as Ancient and Future Pokémon ex, and Charizard, Forretress, and Espathra show off their own unique skills as Shiny Tera Pokémon ex. Shed some light and discover sparkling wonders in the Scarlet & Violet—Paldean Fates expansion!

Paldean Fates releases January 26th, 2024.​

 

[dineinunes]

CORE SET (091/091)

regular exs: 07/07
tera pokémon exs: 03/03

[001] Pineco (PAL#004)
[002] Forretress (PAL#005)
[003] Maractus (Ancient Roar)
[004] Toedscool (SVI#024)
[005] Toedscruel (OBF#022)
[006] Espathra (Shiny Treasure ex)
[007] Charmander (MEW#004)
[008] Charmeleon (Shiny Treasure ex)
[009] Magmar (Starter Deck Tera Skeledirge ex)
[010] Magmortar (Starter Deck Tera Skeledirge ex)
[011] Numel (Ancient Roar)
[012] Camerupt (Ancient Roar)
[013] Heat Rotom (Starter Deck Tera Skeledirge ex)
[014] Charcadet (SVI#040)
[015] Armarouge (SVI#041)
[016] Lapras (Raging Surf)
[017] Frigibax (Shiny Treasure ex)
[018] Pikachu (PAL#062)
[019] Raichu (MEW#026)
[020] Chinchou (Raging Surf)
[021] Lanturn (Raging Surf)
[022] Kilowattrel (Shiny Treasure ex)
[023] Exeggcute (Starter Deck Tera Mewtwo ex)
[024] Exeggutor (Starter Deck Tera Mewtwo ex)
[025] Natu (Shiny Treasure ex, PAR#071)
[026] Xatu (Shiny Treasure ex, PAR#072)
[027] Ralts (SVI#084)
[028] Kirlia (SVI#085)
[029] Gardevoir (SVI#086)
[030] Chimecho (Future Flash)
[031] Mime Jr. (Shiny Treasure ex)
[032] Woobat (Ancient Roar)
[033] Swoobat (Ancient Roar)
[034] Cottonee (Starter Deck Tera Mewtwo ex)
[035] Whimsicott (Starter Deck Tera Mewtwo ex)
[036] Dedenne (Starter Deck Tera Mewtwo ex)
[037] Mimikyu (PAL#097)
[038] Fidough (SVI#097)
[039] Dachsbun (SVI#099)
[040] Ceruledge (PAL#098)
[041] Flittle (Shiny Treasure ex)
[042] Greavard (SVI#104)
[043] Houndstone (SVI#106)
[044] Gimmighoul (Shiny Treasure ex)
[045] Mankey (SVI#107)
[046] Primeape (SVI#108)
[047] Annihilape (SVI#109)
[048] Phanpy (Raging Surf)
[049] Donphan (Raging Surf)
[050] Barboach (Gym Promo series 2, OBF#108)
[051] Clobbopus (Ancient Roar)
[052] Grapploct (Ancient Roar)
[053] Great Tusk

(Shiny Treasure ex)
[054] Charizard (OBF#125)
[055] Gastly (Raging Surf)
[056] Haunter (Raging Surf)
[057] Gengar (Raging Surf)
[058] Paldean Wooper (PAL#128)
[059] Paldean Clodsire (PAL#130)
[060] Scraggy (Raging Surf)
[061] Scrafty (Raging Surf)
[062] Maschiff (PAL#141)
[063] Mabosstiff (SVI#137)
[064] Varoom (Shiny Treasure ex)
[065] Revavroom (SVI#142)
[066] Iron Treads

(Shiny Treasure ex)
[067] Gholdengo (Shiny Treasure ex)
[068] Noibat (PAL#152)
[069] Noivern (PAL#153)
[070] Cyclizar (Shiny Treasure ex)
[071] Lechonk (SVI#156)
[072] Oinkologne (OBF#184)
[073] Tandemaus (PAL#166)
[074] Maushold (SVI#161)
[075] Squawkabilly (PAL#169)
[076] Artazon (PAL#171)
[077] Atticus (Gym Promo series 2)
[078] Clive (Shiny Treasure ex)
[079] Electric Generator (SVI#170)
[080] Iono (PAL#185)
[081] Moonlit Hill (Gym Promo series 3)
[082] Nemona (ex Starter Set Fuecoco & Ampharos ex, SVI#180)
[083] Nemona's Backpack (Shiny Treasure ex)
[084] Nest Ball (SVI#181)
[085] Paldean Student (Shiny Treasure ex)
[086] Paldean Student (Shiny Treasure ex)
[087] Professor's Research (SVI#189)
[088] Professor's Research (SVI#190)
[089] Rare Candy (SVI#191)
[090] Technical Machine: Crisis Punch (Shiny Treasure ex)
[091] Ultra Ball (SVI#196)

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SECRET RARES (154/154)

[092] S Oddish (Shiny Treasure ex, MEW#043)
[093] S Gloom (Shiny Treasure ex, MEW#044)
[094] S Vileplume (Shiny Treasure ex, MEW#045)
[095] S Scyther (Shiny Treasure ex, OBF#004)
[096] S Hoppip (Shiny Treasure ex, PAL#001)
[097] S Skiploom (Shiny Treasure ex, PAL#002)
[098] S Jumpluff (Shiny Treasure ex, PAL#003)
[099] S Pineco (Shiny Treasure ex, PAL#004)
[100] S Snover (Shiny Treasure ex, PAL#010)
[101] S Abomasnow (Shiny Treasure ex, PAL#011)
[102] S Smoliv (Shiny Treasure ex, SVI#021)
[103] S Dolliv (Shiny Treasure ex, SVI#022)
[104] S Arboliva (Shiny Treasure ex, SVI#023)
[105] S Toedscool (Shiny Treasure ex, SVI#024)
[106] S Capsakid (Shiny Treasure ex, SVI#028)
[107] S Scovillain (Shiny Treasure ex, OBF#025)
[108] S Rellor (Shiny Treasure ex, PAL#026)
[109] S Charmander (Shiny Treasure ex, MEW#004)
[110] S Charmeleon (Shiny Treasure ex, PAF#008)
[111] S Paldean Tauros (Shiny Treasure ex, PAL#028)
[112] S Entei (Shiny Treasure ex, OBF#030)
[113] S Oricorio (Shiny Treasure ex, PAL#033)
[114] S Charcadet (Shiny Treasure ex, SVI#040)
[115] S Armarouge (Shiny Treasure ex, SVI#041)
[116] S Slowpoke (Shiny Treasure ex SVI#042)
[117] S Slowbro (Shiny Treasure ex, SVI#043)
[118] S Staryu (Shiny Treasure ex, MEW#120)
[119] S Starmie (Shiny Treasure ex, MEW#121)
[120] S Paldean Tauros (Shiny Treasure ex, PAL#041)
[121] S Wiglett (Shiny Treasure ex, SVI#055)
[122] S Wugtrio (Shiny Treasure ex, SVI#057)
[123] S Finizen (Shiny Treasure ex, OBF#060)
[124] S Palafin (Shiny Treasure ex, OBF#062)
[125] S Veluza (Shiny Treasure ex, PAL#056)
[126] S Dondozo (Shiny Treasure ex, SVI#061)
[127] S Tatsugiri (Shiny Treasure ex, SVI#062)
[128] S Frigibax (Shiny Treasure ex, PAF#017)
[129] S Arctibax (Shiny Treasure ex, PAL#059)
[130] S Baxcalibur (Shiny Treasure ex, PAL#060)
[131] S Pikachu (Shiny Treasure ex, PAL#062)
[132] S Raichu (Shiny Treasure ex, MEW#026)
[133] S Voltorb (Shiny Treasure ex, MEW#100)
[134] S Electrode (Shiny Treasure ex, MEW#101)
[135] S Shinx (Shiny Treasure ex, PAL#069)
[136] S Luxio (Shiny Treasure ex, PAL#070)
[137] S Luxray (Shiny Treasure ex, PAL#071)
[138] S Pachirisu (Shiny Treasure ex, SVI#068)
[139] S Thundurus (Shiny Treasure ex, OBF#070)
[140] S Toxel (Shiny Treasure ex, OBF#071)
[141] S Toxtricity (Shiny Treasure ex, OBF#072)
[142] S Pawmi (Shiny Treasure ex, SVI#074)
[143] S Pawmo (Shiny Treasure ex, SVI#075)
[144] S Pawmot (Shiny Treasure ex, SVI#076)
[145] S Wattrel (Shiny Treasure ex, PAL#080)
[146] S Kilowattrel (Shiny Treasure ex, PAF#022)
[147] S Wigglytuff (Shiny Treasure ex, PAL#084)
[148] S Abra (Shiny Treasure ex, MEW#063)
[149] S Kadabra (Shiny Treasure ex, MEW#064)
[150] S Cleffa (Shiny Treasure ex, OBF#080)
[151] S Natu (Shiny Treasure ex, PAR#071)
[152] S Xatu (Shiny Treasure ex, PAR#072)
[153] S Ralts (Shiny Treasure ex, SVI#084)
[154] S Kirlia (Shiny Treasure ex, SVI#085)
[155] S Drifloon (Shiny Treasure ex, SVI#089)
[156] S Drifblim (Shiny Treasure ex, SVI#090)
[157] S Mime Jr. (Shiny Treasure ex, PAF#031)
[158] S Spiritomb (Shiny Treasure ex, PAL#089)
[159] S Klefki (Shiny Treasure ex, SVI#096)
[160] S Mimikyu (Shiny Treasure ex, PAL#097)
[161] S Dachsbun (Shiny Treasure ex, SVI#099)
[162] S Ceruledge (Shiny Treasure ex, PAL#098)
[163] S Rabsca (Shiny Treasure ex, PAL#099)
[164] S Flittle (Shiny Treasure ex, PAF#041)
[165] S Tinkatink (Shiny Treasure ex, PAL#101)
[166] S Tinkatuff (Shiny Treasure ex, PAL#104)
[167] S Tinkaton (Shiny Treasure ex, PAL#105)
[168] S Houndstone (Shiny Treasure ex, SVI#106)
[169] S Mankey (Shiny Treasure ex, SVI#107)
[170] S Primeape (Shiny Treasure ex, SVI#108)
[171] S Annihilape (Shiny Treasure ex, SV#109)
[172] S Paldean Tauros (Shiny Treasure ex, PAL#108)
[173] S Riolu (Shiny Treasure ex, SVI#113)
[174] S Lucario (Shiny Treasure ex, SVI#114)
[175] S Hawlucha (Shiny Treasure ex, SVI#118)
[176] S Nacli (Shiny Treasure ex, PAL#121)
[177] S Naclstack (Shiny Treasure ex, PAL#122)
[178] S Garganacl (Shiny Treasure ex, PAL#123)
[179] S Glimmet (Shiny Treasure ex, PAL#124)
[180] S Paldean Wooper (Shiny Treasure ex, PAL#128)
[181] S Murkrow (Shiny Treasure ex, PAL#131)
[182] S Sneasel (Shiny Treasure ex, PAL#133)
[183] S Weavile (Shiny Treasure ex, PAL#134)
[184] S Sableye (Shiny Treasure ex, PAL#136)
[185] S Pawniard (Shiny Treasure ex, SVI#132)
[186] S Bisharp (Shiny Treasure ex, SVI#133)
[187] S Kingambit (Shiny Treasure ex, SVI#134)
[188] S Mabosstiff (Shiny Treasure ex, SVI#137)
[189] S Shroodle (Shiny Treasure ex, PAL#144)
[190] S Grafaiai (Shiny Treasure ex, PAL#146)
[191] S Scizor (Shiny Treasure ex, OBF#141)

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SECRET RARES

shiny exs: 12/11
shiny tera ex: 03/03
illustration rares: 03/03
special illustration rares: 08/08
gold pokémon ex: 06/06

[192] S Varoom (Shiny Treasure ex, PAF#064)
[193] S Revavroom (Shiny Treasure ex, SVI#142)
[194] S Noibat (Shiny Treasure ex, PAL#152)
[195] S Cyclizar (Shiny Treasure ex, PAF#070)
[196] S Pidgey (Shiny Treasure ex, MEW#016)
[197] S Pidgeotto (Shiny Treasure ex, MEW#017)
[198] S Jigglypuff (Shiny Treasure ex, MEW#039)
[199] S Doduo (Shiny Treasure ex, MEW#084)
[200] S Dodrio (Shiny Treasure ex, MEW#085)
[201] S Ditto (Shiny Treasure ex, MEW#132)
[202] S Snorlax (Shiny Treasure ex, MEW#143)
[203] S Wingull (Shiny Treasure ex, PAL#158)
[204] S Pelipper (Shiny Treasure ex, PAL#159)
[205] S Skwovet (Shiny Treasure ex, SVI#151)
[206] S Greedent (Shiny Treasure ex, SVI#152)
[207] S Lechonk (Shiny Treasure ex, SVI#156)
[208] S Oinkologne (Shiny Treasure ex, OBF#184)
[209] S Tandemaus (Shiny Treasure ex, PAL#166)
[210] S Maushold (Shiny Treasure ex, SVI#161)
[211] S Flamigo (Shiny Treasure ex, PAL#170)
[212] SSR Forretress

(Shiny Treasure ex, PAL#005)
[213] SSR Toedscruel

(Shiny Treasure ex, OBF#022)
[214] SSR Espathra

(Shiny Treasure ex, PAF#006)
[215] SSR Alakazam

(Shiny Treasure ex, MEW#065)
[216] SSR Mew

(Shiny Treasure ex, MEW#151)
[217] SSR Gardevoir

(Shiny Treasure ex, SVI#086)
[218] SSR Glimmora

(Shiny Treasure ex, OBF#123)
[219] SSR Paldean Clodsire

(Shiny Treasure ex, PAL#130)
[220] SSR Noivern

(Shiny Treasure ex, PAL#153)
[221] SSR Pidgeot

(Shiny Treasure ex, OBF#164)
[222] SSR Wigglytuff

(Shiny Treasure ex, MEW#040)
[223] SSR Squawkabilly

(Shiny Treasure ex, PAL#169)
[224] IR Wugtrio (Shiny Treasure ex, SVI#057)
[225] IR Palafin (Shiny Treasure ex, OBF#062)
[226] IR Pawmi (Shiny Treasure ex, SVI#074)
[227] FA Clive (Shiny Treasure ex, PAF#078)
[228] FA Judge (Shiny Treasure ex, SVI#176)
[229] FA Nemona (Shiny Treasure ex, SVI#180)
[230] FA Paldean Student (Shiny Treasure ex, PAF#085)
[231] FA Paldean Student (Shiny Treasure ex, PAF#086)
[232] SIR Mew

(Shiny Treasure ex, MEW#151)
[233] SIR Gardevoir

(Shiny Treasure ex, SVI#086)
[234] SIR Charizard

(Shiny Treasure ex, OBF#125)
[235] SIR Arven (Shiny Treasure ex, SVI#166)
[236] SIR Clive (Shiny Treasure ex, PAF#078)
[237] SIR Iono (Shiny Treasure ex, PAL#185)
[238] SIR Nemona (Shiny Treasure ex, SVI#180)
[239] SIR Penny (Shiny Treasure ex, SVI#183)
[240] GOLD Wo-Chien

(Shiny Treasure ex, PAL#027)
[241] GOLD Chi-Yu

(Shiny Treasure ex, PAL#040)
[242] GOLD Chien-Pao

(Shiny Treasure ex, PAL#061)
[243] GOLD Miraidon

(Shiny Treasure ex, SVI#081)
[244] GOLD Ting-Lu

(Shiny Treasure ex, PAL#127)
[245] GOLD Koraidon

(Shiny Treasure ex, SVI#125)

 

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CARDS INTENTIONALLY EXCLUDED

CONFIRMED PROMOS

S Fidough (Shiny Treasure ex, SVI#097) - Paldean Fates Tech Sticker Collection (SVP#069)
S Greavard (Shiny Treasure ex, SVI#104) - Paldean Fates Tech Sticker Collection (SVP#070)
S Maschiff (Shiny Treasure ex, PAL#141) - Paldean Fates Tech Sticker Collection (SP#071)
SSR Great Tusk

(Shiny Treasure ex, PAF#053) - Paldean Fates Tins (SVP#072)
SSR Iron Treads

(Shiny Treasure ex, PAF#066) - Paldean Fates Tins (SVP#073)
SSR Charizard

(Shiny Treasure ex, OBF#125) - Paldean Fates Tins (SVP#074)
IR Mimikyu (Shiny Treasure ex, PAL#097) - Paldean Fates Elite Trainer Box (SVP#075)
S Sprigatito (Shiny Treasure ex, PAL#012) - Paldean Fates Meowscarada ex Premium Collection (SVP#076)
S Floragato (Shiny Treasure ex, PAL#014) - Paldean Fates Meowscarada ex Premium Collection (SVP#077)
SSR Meowscarada

(Shiny Treasure ex, PAL#015) - Paldean Fates Meowscarada ex Premium Collection (SVP#078)
S Fuecoco (Shiny Treasure ex, PAL#034) - Paldean Fates Skeledirge ex Premium Collection (SVP#079)
S Crocalor (Shiny Treasure ex, PAL#036) - Paldean Fates Skeledirge ex Premium Collection (SVP#080)
SSR Skeledirge

(Shiny Treasure ex, PAL#037) - Paldean Fates Skeledirge ex Premium Collection (SVP#081)
S Quaxly (Shiny Treasure ex, PAL#050) - Paldean Fates Quaquaval ex Premium Collection (SVP#082)
S Quaxwell (Shiny Treasure ex, PAL#051) - Paldean Fates Quaquaval ex Premium Collection (SVP#083)
SSR Quaquaval

(Shiny Treasure ex, PAL#052) - Paldean Fates Quaquaval ex Premium Collection (SVP#084)

 

[Kangaflora]

Would it not be wise to include the recently revealed Latias Promo card? As well as Tinkaton and Garganacl ex?

 

[dineinunes]

Would it not be wise to include the recently revealed Latias Promo card? As well as Tinkaton and Garganacl ex?

No. These cards are too recent to be included in this set. It's likely that the set is already in production. It's the same reason we didn't get Gym Promos series 12 in Crown Zenith (and thus they still remain unreleased).

 

[dineinunes]

added the revealed cards and some speculative based on the pack art

 

[steffenka]

I think the Mimikyu and Pawmot might just be a regular Mimikyu and Pawmot, since the exs never got any FA cards (I'd happily be wrong though), and then I think we might get a Shiny Clodsire ex, since the Paldean Wooper they showed was from Paldea Evolved which had the ex.

I also think you can add Garganacl and co to the main set

 

[dineinunes]

I think the Mimikyu and Pawmot might just be a regular Mimikyu and Pawmot, since the exs never got any FA cards (I'd happily be wrong though), and then I think we might get a Shiny Clodsire ex, since the Paldean Wooper they showed was from Paldea Evolved which had the ex.

I also think you can add Garganacl and co to the main set

Yeah, that's why I put Mimikyu and Pawmot ex as speculation. But I also think it might just be the regular ones, I might change that later. I added Wooper but totally forgot to add Clodsire, will do later also.

Now, about the new gym promos. Like I said to Kangaflora, those cards are too recent to be in this set. Is it possible? Yes. Is it likely? Based on past behavior, I'd say highly unlikely. We didn't get series 4 in Shining Fates, series 8 in Fusion Strike or Brilliant Stars and we didn't get series 12 in Crown Zenith (we never got them actually). So I don't think those cards will be here. Maybe they'll be added to SV5.

 

[bktan]

What is most interesting is that there are 0 holos outstanding so what is going to take that guaranteed holo slot?


Not that TPCi hasn't already not GAF since OBF only had 10 holos in the set.


And then Champion's Path only had 9 holos. Also I'm sure there were other special sets with limited rare+holo and they still didn't care about how much bulk was created with that.

 

[dineinunes]

Updated with today's reveals

 

[dineinunes]

What is most interesting is that there are 0 holos outstanding so what is going to take that guaranteed holo slot?


Not that TPCi hasn't already not GAF since OBF only had 10 holos in the set.


And then Champion's Path only had 9 holos. Also I'm sure there were other special sets with limited rare+holo and they still didn't care about how much bulk was created with that.

For now the only holos we have are the CoroCoro cards, but I don't even know if they would be holo in the set because CoroCoro promos usually come as blister promos. There might be some new holos in Shiny Treasure but I think it's likely they are gonna have to reprint some or promote some uncommons to rares.

 

[bktan]

For now the only holos we have are the CoroCoro cards, but I don't even know if they would be holo in the set because CoroCoro promos usually come as blister promos. There might be some new holos in Shiny Treasure but I think it's likely they are gonna have to reprint some or promote some uncommons to rares.

In the Japanese set, if you try and include all G9 Pokemon and necessary cross-evo lines, the ones on the pack art, and some like Hawlucha and Murkrow (considering Klefki, Spiritomb, Mimikyu and Shinx line were all revealed today) then there's almost no space left for new cards.

 

[dineinunes]

In the Japanese set, if you try and include all G9 Pokemon and necessary cross-evo lines, the ones on the pack art, and some like Hawlucha and Murkrow (considering Klefki, Spiritomb, Mimikyu and Shinx line were all revealed today) then there's almost no space left for new cards.

It's still entirely possible that some of the these cards that we know should be in the set are not reprints and be entirely new cards. We know that we should expect Pawmot and Scizor based on the pack art but they might not be reprints of cards we already have, like it just happened with Frgibax and Varoom.

 

[Kangaflora]

I have listed cards for the set on paper, that have so far been listed by both Dineinunes and JustinBasil on his personal website. So far, I have counted 88 possible cards that could be in the set. If the rumours about there being 91 cards in the set are true, then I'm missing three cards to make that total. I do know that the Pokémon in their Shiny Formes will be a separate sub set. Reprints of cards from past sets and this set as we have so far seen in Charmeleon and Mime Jr. So far, from that 88 number that I have listed, 9 of them are Pokémon ex.

 

[beatbox2000]

I have listed cards for the set on paper, that have so far been listed by both Dineinunes and JustinBasil on his personal website. So far, I have counted 88 possible cards that could be in the set. If the rumours about there being 91 cards in the set are true, then I'm missing three cards to make that total. I do know that the Pokémon in their Shiny Formes will be a separate sub set. Reprints of cards from past sets and this set as we have so far seen in Charmeleon and Mime Jr. So far, from that 88 number that I have listed, 9 of them are Pokémon ex.

How do you even get to 88 when there are only 65 possible cards?

56 from this list + Natu + 8 likely cut.

Remember that every alternate card is now a secret. So the 6 potential secret cards above wouldn't be in the 91 either.

In fact, 34 additional cards seems like a lot when most of the cards should be reprints from the JP set.

Maybe dineinunes is right and some lines will be included like Charmander.

 

[beatbox2000]

Also potential holo cards:

No Rarity - 6
Magmortar, Heat Rotom, Kilowattrel, Exeggutor, Xatu, Whimsicott
Promo - 3
Bellibolt, Revavroom, Cyclizar

So even if they stick to not bumping up rarities, they can still get there I suppose. But a 91 card set with like 10-12 holos and 9 ex and 150+ SRs lol

 

[Ninjask]

added the revealed cards and some speculative based on the pack art

Do you have source?

 

[Ninjask]

I'll post mine for detailed and sequenced setlist