Pocket Monsters X / Y Discussion

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I finally started watching the anime and made it through all 21 episodes, and I gotta admit that this anime is really good. It's almost as good as gen one in my opinion. After Unova anime, I didn't have high hopes for Kalos at all, but Serena and Clement have definitely improved the anime. I like the fact that Serena and Ash have known each other since they were in Kanto. Its also nice to see that team rocket is finally making some thought out plans, like the plan they had in episode 10. I gotta admit that I'm really excited to see the Diancie move after how good the anime has been so far.
 
We're actually up to 31 episodes now (if you don't count the cancelled Skrelp episode), so you've got a bit more catching up to do! Unless you're talking about the dub, that is, which has its own thread here. :)

In was so excited yesterday! 1) I went to the website and saw that both 31 *and* 32 had been subbed, and 2) I also figured out a good way for how to watch on my tablet! :D So, as I was stuck yesterday, I got to get all caught up. :D

I really love that we've been having such a nice plot-related arc with Corni. Working with her to get the Lucarionite, etc., it's just been a blast. It makes the episodes more interesting to watch, and it's really developing Corni as a character which is super awesome. As much as I love Team Rocket, it's nice to have episodes that aren't just a "Team Rocket Formula". Corni's Mega Lucario going nuts was actually kind of scary, especially in the fight with Pikachu. It looks like we'll get to have her as a traveling companion at least for a bit longer, though I guess that also means it'll be a while before Satoshi fights Corni as a Gym Leader.

If I have any complaints, it would be Satoshi sending out Pikachu to fight Mega Lucario. Dude, you JUST FOUGHT Lucario and got your ass wiped, you haven't done a lick of training since then, and now you're going to send Pikachu off to fight the Mega version of that same Pokémon. facepalm.jpg
 
Athena said:
We're actually up to 31 episodes now (if you don't count the cancelled Skrelp episode), so you've got a bit more catching up to do! Unless you're talking about the dub, that is, which has its own thread here. :)

In was so excited yesterday! 1) I went to the website and saw that both 31 *and* 32 had been subbed, and 2) I also figured out a good way for how to watch on my tablet! :D So, as I was stuck yesterday, I got to get all caught up. :D

I really love that we've been having such a nice plot-related arc with Corni. Working with her to get the Lucarionite, etc., it's just been a blast. It makes the episodes more interesting to watch, and it's really developing Corni as a character which is super awesome. As much as I love Team Rocket, it's nice to have episodes that aren't just a "Team Rocket Formula". Corni's Mega Lucario going nuts was actually kind of scary, especially in the fight with Pikachu. It looks like we'll get to have her as a traveling companion at least for a bit longer, though I guess that also means it'll be a while before Satoshi fights Corni as a Gym Leader.

If I have any complaints, it would be Satoshi sending out Pikachu to fight Mega Lucario. Dude, you JUST FOUGHT Lucario and got your ass wiped, you haven't done a lick of training since then, and now you're going to send Pikachu off to fight the Mega version of that same Pokémon. facepalm.jpg
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Why was the Skrelp episode cancelled?

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While a reason has not been officially given, it's believed to be because of the recent Korean ferry disaster. The Skrelp episode was set to take place on a sunken ship, and episodes have been cancelled in the past due to similarities to recent events (such as the earthquake that hit Japan a few years ago).
 
I just watched the new episode, I wasn't allowed to watch it earlier because my sister wanted to watch it together with me. Oh well, anything to keep her happy xD

But I must say, this episode was pretty epic! I'm loving the whole Corni-travels-with-Satoshi thing :3
 
Corni's grandpa (whose name escapes me) more or less says that he loses control of himself because of his cocky overconfidence, and also blames Corni for fostering said overconfidence.
 
Athena said:
While a reason has not been officially given, it's believed to be because of the recent Korean ferry disaster. The Skrelp episode was set to take place on a sunken ship, and episodes have been cancelled in the past due to similarities to recent events (such as the earthquake that hit Japan a few years ago).
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On another forum I go to, there was one member who got so annoyed when the Skrelp episode got cancelled/delayed that he ranted about it, and it wasn't a pretty sight to see.

On the topic of the latest episode (that was subbed), I suppose it was hard to Corni to hear that her bond with Lucario isn't as strong as she believes, and that's a good stepping stone for their development to master Mega Evolution as it sure doesn't come overnight.

Also I think it's good for Corni to train under the guidance of a trainer who probably doesn't know what Corni is like as a battler (namely Maple and Mawile), as it will help them develop their bond further.
 
I've just watched the episode where "Lady" (what a joke) Korrina was introduced and the one after that. Later this afternoon I'll watch the copycat and the ones after obtaining the "LucarioMarble".

Edit: I ended only watching the copycat because seeing Ash, Korrina and Lucario is too unbearable!

I've lost all my interest in this season. Ash will get an Hawlucha (hey, no discussion about Ash not evolving another one of his Pokémon!) and evolve his...birdy, while everything remains the same: Serena with her vain Fennekin, Ash with Froakie and Clemont with Bunnelby and Chespin. No training, no nothing; they all go eat and only those Pokémon that were outisde get screen time and to eat something. How I miss Hoenn. I just can't stand to look at Ash...Lame Pikachu got knocked after some blows (that's what you get when using Iron Tail against a Fight/Steel Pokémon), no strategy of attacking from afar, no nothing. Then, Lucario, the AURA Pokémon can't sense the evil in TR!? Whaaaaaaaaat!? But then it can sense his Marble Stone!? Lame doggy.

Seriously, Korrina was worried about a photo!? They live in a world full of technology and then she gets sad when losing it? Or was she just worried about being free of charge? She just seems like Maylene - even worse -, and I really wished that out of nowhere Paul appeared and taughted her some lesson..and yet another to Ash!

Team Rocket...nice ideas and funny moments but nothing much. Inkay and the pumpkin will end as they are - unevolved puppets.

Pokémon XY: the quest for Marble!
 
Leaf_Ranger said:
I've lost all my interest in this season. Ash will get an Hawlucha (hey, no discussion about Ash not evolving another one of his Pokémon!) and evolve his...birdy, while everything remains the same: Serena with her vain Fennekin, Ash with Froakie and Clemont with Bunnelby and Chespin. No training, no nothing; they all go eat and only those Pokémon that were outisde get screen time and to eat something
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You're acting like the beginning of every saga isn't like this. The beginning of Johto, Hoenn and Sinnoh all started the same way. Very slow captures, the main cast got their attention taken away by fillers or random characters they meet, etc.

Ash only had 4 pokemon for the first 50 episodes of Hoenn, same for the first 50 episodes of Sinnoh. Brock had 3 measly pokemon for the entire span of Hoenn and Sinnoh. May and Dawn only had 7 pokemon for their entire run.

I mean the entire show is practically written almost the same way every saga. I'm not sure why you expected this time to be any different.
 
Leaf_Ranger said:
I've just watched the episode where "Lady" (what a joke) Korrina was introduced and the one after that. Later this afternoon I'll watch the copycat and the ones after obtaining the "LucarioMarble".

Edit: I ended only watching the copycat because seeing Ash, Korrina and Lucario is too unbearable!

I've lost all my interest in this season. Ash will get an Hawlucha (hey, no discussion about Ash not evolving another one of his Pokémon!) and evolve his...birdy, while everything remains the same: Serena with her vain Fennekin, Ash with Froakie and Clemont with Bunnelby and Chespin. No training, no nothing; they all go eat and only those Pokémon that were outisde get screen time and to eat something. How I miss Hoenn. I just can't stand to look at Ash...Lame Pikachu got knocked after some blows (that's what you get when using Iron Tail against a Fight/Steel Pokémon), no strategy of attacking from afar, no nothing. Then, Lucario, the AURA Pokémon can't sense the evil in TR!? Whaaaaaaaaat!? But then it can sense his Marble Stone!? Lame doggy.

Seriously, Korrina was worried about a photo!? They live in a world full of technology and then she gets sad when losing it? Or was she just worried about being free of charge? She just seems like Maylene - even worse -, and I really wished that out of nowhere Paul appeared and taughted her some lesson..and yet another to Ash!

Team Rocket...nice ideas and funny moments but nothing much. Inkay and the pumpkin will end as they are - unevolved puppets.

Pokémon XY: the quest for Marble!
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While I agree with some of your complaints (I would love to see more Pokémon caught and more evolutions!), overall, I've been really happy with how the show has been going. I love that Satoshi isn't clueless, and that Team Rocket are back to their hijinks (while not being in every episode, too). I also think it's wonderful that they've made Corni and Lucario "flawed" characters to let them get some characterization, rather than the bland, unchanging personality she has in the games. The fact that the show is maintaining a plot instead of being just a bunch of one-off episodes over and over with a Gym in between in quite a lot of fun, too.

Overall, I do think you're being far too critical of the show, but if you're simply not enjoying it, that's not for me to judge.
 
Don't forget this is Pokémon and not something like Attack on Titan, Fullmetal Alchemist or *insert anime without any flaws here*. I watch it because it's 'light' and it's just enjoyable. It's nice to see the characters from the game again, this time with a little more personality.

It's fine if you don't enjoy it, but the latest episodes are pretty good imo. Even the opening feels different, more serious.
 
precita said:
Leaf_Ranger said:
I've lost all my interest in this season. Ash will get an Hawlucha (hey, no discussion about Ash not evolving another one of his Pokémon!) and evolve his...birdy, while everything remains the same: Serena with her vain Fennekin, Ash with Froakie and Clemont with Bunnelby and Chespin. No training, no nothing; they all go eat and only those Pokémon that were outisde get screen time and to eat something
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You're acting like the beginning of every saga isn't like this. The beginning of Johto, Hoenn and Sinnoh all started the same way. Very slow captures, the main cast got their attention taken away by fillers or random characters they meet, etc.

Ash only had 4 pokemon for the first 50 episodes of Hoenn, same for the first 50 episodes of Sinnoh. Brock had 3 measly pokemon for the entire span of Hoenn and Sinnoh. May and Dawn only had 7 pokemon for their entire run.

I mean the entire show is practically written almost the same way every saga. I'm not sure why you expected this time to be any different.
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My problem isn't being few Pokémon that don't evolve but not showing them! Back in Hoenn, whether they were few or a whole bunch, Ash & Co. would just let everyone out and enjoy meals, spending some time together, interaction between them and Pokémon and between Pokémon itself. Here? Nothing! Pikachu, Dedenne and Lucario get to eat whie everyone else is kept inside their Pkballs as if they were shown too much. Bunnelby, how many episodes has it been since we've seen it, and now only to dig and find the direction of TR's transporter machine? I would like to see Pokémon with more screentime (including Pumkaboo and Inkay).
I'm happy that Clemont isn't always cooking, that isn't always coming up with machines, that Eureka isn't always making proposals to women but I want to see more from the Pokémon, not the humans. Seeing Serena gigling while looking at their photo was nice but aside from that, she's just some wandering maiden! Eureka feels scared about entering the (Mega)cave and to whom she's gonna call for help? Pikachu! While I understand that Pikachu is experienced and capable, Dedenne is just the furry ball stuffed into her pouch that only eats and sleeps! No training, no caring for their Pokémon.
The reason why I was expecting differently? Because this season had one fo the best starts and also some of the best episodes in all of seasons. This feels like the first season when Pokémon were mostly still seen as Pocket Monsters and not actually creatures with feelings and personalities.
 
Got a chance to see 33 today, and it wasn't that great of an episode, to be honest. Had a very filler-y feel to it and nothing really happened. Team Rocket's "Mecha Mecha Evolutions" were pretty lolsworthy and the highlight of the episode, but overall it was pretty boring. There was no real explanation as to why Corni's Lucario was able to control itself temporarily, either the fact that it could happen at all or why it was only temporary. Ah well, I guess they can't all be winners. :p

We have a few new episode titles and dates revealed, too, so I've updated the OP. In addition to last week's break, there will be another break during the week the new movie is released. Looks like Satoshi will get to experience a sky battle soon; I kind of wonder how that's going to be shown in the anime, but it seems like he might get to wear one of those sky battler outfits. The Reflection Cave episode might be interesting, too, guess we'll just have to wait and see. :D
 
Does anyone like me LOVE both the Japanese openings compared to the English dub?
 
Queen Sylveon said:
Does anyone like me LOVE both the Japanese openings compared to the English dub?
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The Japanese openings are so much better imo. They have always been better. The recent opening is really awesome, I really like that last part ;3

About the last episode; why couldn't Corni and Lucario find eachother? They could at first, but not now? It feels like they only did it because it would work better with the story.
 
Yeah, that whole episode was just kind of awkward.

Also, definitely in agreement with the Japanese songs just being better in general, though I'm not very familiar with any of the English ones aside from the very early ones, which were kind of great in a campy/nostalgia sort of way, but that's about all.
 
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