Pokemon TCG for the DS!

gamerCNSK

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Hey guys, I don't know if this is where this goes but I wrote a blog about how the TCG needs to come to the DS. I figured that was general enough discussion. Here is a copy/paste version of it and I will link at the bottom for gamespot members. Let me know what you what you think. Mods, if this goes somewhere else, can you please move it.

Pokemon TCG, the DS (or 3DS) and what NEEDS to happen.

Who reading this remembers back when Pokemon was the biggest thing ever? I certainly do. Between the Game Boy games, the anime, and the cards the franchise could not be stopped. Now fast-foward 12 years later. Still big. I have fairly recently (the last year and a half to two years) gotten back into the Pokemon TCG (trading card game). While I played the main video game series all along for some reason I lost interest in the cards along the way. A couple summers ago, I found my old card and with a friend of mine remembered how to play and BAM! we were hooked again. One of the most forgotten element in the Pokemon days of old was the TCG game for the Game Boy. Seeing as I loved the card game back then, this game was a huge time-suck for me. Although the sets included in the game were only base through jungle I still enjoyed playing against the computer. The purpose of this blog is to lay out my argument for a revival of a video game version of the Pokemon TCG. I will explain why it would be awesome, how it would work as well as counter the main argument for why Nintendo would/should (for their own interests) never do this.

First of all, why would this be awesome? This would be awesome because there are Pokemon TCG players all across the world right now. Believe it or not, the game is still thriving. The problem is, with a world that is becoming ever more busy and long gaps between periods where tournaments are going on it is sometimes difficult to get ample practice in with deck ideas. There are TCG leagues, but not everywhere and sometimes at inconvenient times. The TCG video game I am imagining would solve this problem. It would also serve as a great way to build and test deck ideas without having to either proxy a deck or invest money in cards that don't work in your deck (I can hear Nintendo's argument now, and I will get to that later). It would also be an awesome way for TCG players to connect and for the metagame to expand. So, how is all of this going to happen? How would this fantastic game work?

On the surface, the game would work very similar to the original. An incredible story is not important for this game to work. For those who do not remember, the first game had an overworld map (similar to Mario in a way). When you selected a location it would take you to a "club." The clubs were like gyms in the main series. Each club had a type theme and a leader (like a gym leader). When you beat the leader you got a medal. Get all medals and you could challenge the four "Grand Masters" to get the "Legendary Pokemon Cards." Whenever you would beat an opponent you would get booster packs to expand your collection of cards and help make your decks better. You had a rival, who only serves as a tougher test to see how good your deck was. That was the whole story. It was mostly playing the TCG. Randomized deck draws and coin flips with very good computer AI (atleast I felt like the AI was good) was so awesome. So, my idea for the game would function very similar to that with several additions. The first addition would be the inclusion of all the sets currently in the format at the time of the games release. For example, if the game were to be released tomorrow then the game would include all cards from the sets Diamond and Pearl through Heart Gold Soul Silver: Unleashed. I would work on the AI to make it even better to where when you go back and replay people maybe they have multiple decks or switch them up and make them better as you advance in the game. The next HUGE addition I would make would be online play. This would be awesome. Right now Pokemon TCG players use a program called "Redshark" or they use Skype to play online. This would be a much better, streamlined way to play. The game could either be on the DS or the 3DS. The graphics would be able to have a better looking, almost real image of each card as opposed to what we had on the Game Boy color. Now, I can hear the argument from Nintendo now. "We won't make any money off the real Pokemon TCG if we release this as people will just play this instead." I disagree.

First of all, the tournaments will still be held with the physical cards. They will still make just as much money off of the cards as they do now. The serious players will buy a box of each new set and attendance may actually go up if the DS game is used to promote the actual game and bring in new players. I feel that it is highly unlikely that people would drop playing the real game where there are tournaments, leagues, the actual cards and friends to just play a digital version online or against the computer. Both Yo Gi Oh (on the DS I know of and maybe other consoles) and Magic the Gather (on XBLA) have digital versions of their card games and it does not appear to hurt their market for card purchases. A common misconception is that if say I need a Gengar for my deck I am going to go out and buy packs of cards until I open one with a Gengar in it. No, what I, and most players, would do is go on ebay and buy the single card from an individual. Nintendo doesn't make any money off the second hand purchases. The only market that would be hurt would the the second hand market as people would be able to test out deck easier before purchasing cards for them. Even then, I still don't see much of a change and most people proxy a deck out before they make purchases (atleast, I do). I do see, however, the potential for Nintendo to make even more money. I say that the game could be a retail release. If it is on the 3DS ( and is possible or this may even be possible on the DS) Nintendo can release DLC for each new set of cards when it is released. This would mean that those who use the DS game to play online and test decks would have to purchase the DLC if there were cards in the set they wanted to use. The DLC could update computer decks or just add new computer opponents. Nintendo would make the same amount of money off the cards, but then also make money off Nintendo Points from people buying the DLC.

I say that this is something that needs to happen. It is just to good of an idea to pass up. But then again, so is a Pokemom MMO and we may never see that happen either...
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I completely agree! You send this and a petition to Nintendo as this is well writen and addresses the main points Nintendo would say as an excuse for not making it! Good Job!
 
Nice job, many people say that it will hurt Pokemon's Market, but you devoted an entire paragraph to it, nice job again.
 
I would without a single doubt in my mind, buy this and all dlc...

I absolutely HATE testing new decks all the time and having to put the cards I took out of the deck back in my binder where they go.
 
Thanks for the replies and he feedback. I need to go back and fix some of the grammar errors. I saw there were a lot of views but no replies so it was nice to sign on and have proof people actually read it. I think the title could even work on the Wii as a Wiiware game. Although it would be best on a handheld IMO.
 
Great article dude! I would buy this as soon as it came out.
Could you please translate the letters DLC and in the last line MMO for me because I have no clue what they mean thanks and again good job.
 
DLC=Downloadable Content. This is a form of online microtransactions to add to the games your purchased at the store. An example would be purchasing and downloading new multiplayer maps for Call of Duty or Halo or new uniforms/stadiums for Madden.

MMO=Massive Multiplayer Online. This is a big online multiplayer game where players all inhabit the game world and interact while going on quests. In the future I plan to write a blog about how a Pokemon MMO would work. An example of an MMO would be World of Warcraft or Star Trek Online.
 
I have been going on about this since the announcement ofDSiWare. It's a perfect fit! Thank you for writing this.
 
If you guys liked this blog post, please continue to check out my blog. I have a link to it in my sig. It will not always be about Pokemon (the 2nd post is about football) but it will a lot of the time be about gaming and stuff. I am really excited about writing it! Also, who here is planning on picking up a 3DS when it launches?
 
Its a clever idea and all, but here is why they probably WON'T do it. If they do, that means people can just buy this video game for that same TCG feel, but they wont actually have to spend any money on cards, which is where a huge flow of money comes from. If people payed $35 and could just have access to a huge amount off cards against computer opponents(allowing them to play whenever), then people would lose interest in the actual TCG. Did you see how many TCG players there were alone at nationals? Imagine if there was a video game that was released with the same cards, but you could get it for a lot cheaper. Sure, some people would stay, but a good chunk would leave, and the TCG would lose its reputation.
 
Seth1789110 said:
Its a clever idea and all, but here is why they probably WON'T do it. If they do, that means people can just buy this video game for that same TCG feel, but they wont actually have to spend any money on cards, which is where a huge flow of money comes from. If people payed $35 and could just have access to a huge amount off cards against computer opponents(allowing them to play whenever), then people would lose interest in the actual TCG. Did you see how many TCG players there were alone at nationals? Imagine if there was a video game that was released with the same cards, but you could get it for a lot cheaper. Sure, some people would stay, but a good chunk would leave, and the TCG would lose its reputation.

I devoted an entire paragraph to this argument and I stand by what I said. I do not feel like this would get people to stop playing the TCG. In fact, i argue that if they did it the way I said, they would make more money off of the retail release of the game and the DLC. They would not switch the format of the tournaments to digital and the physical collection aspect of the game can't be replaced by a video game.
 
If anything, it would get more people playing the TCG. They will play the game, but they will feel like they need more. Then they will buy actual cards and more leagues would open up.
 
GHJamesGH said:
If anything, it would get more people playing the TCG. They will play the game, but they will feel like they need more. Then they will buy actual cards and more leagues would open up.

+1 Thanks for reading and coming to my side!
 
I think this is still a good idea. Good way to play against other people and have it wi-fi, and battle computer players on the game aswell. I would for sure buy this game.
 
Seth1789110 said:
Its a clever idea and all, but here is why they probably WON'T do it. If they do, that means people can just buy this video game for that same TCG feel, but they wont actually have to spend any money on cards, which is where a huge flow of money comes from. If people payed $35 and could just have access to a huge amount off cards against computer opponents(allowing them to play whenever), then people would lose interest in the actual TCG. Did you see how many TCG players there were alone at nationals? Imagine if there was a video game that was released with the same cards, but you could get it for a lot cheaper. Sure, some people would stay, but a good chunk would leave, and the TCG would lose its reputation.

what gamerCNSK said was right. and even if they did leave why are you complaining more chances for you to win nats and worlds then? this would be better for playtesting and not wasting paper printing out proxies. maybe they could make the DLC like $10 just to get something out of it. i really think it would be a great idea for this.
 
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i agree i LOVE this idea, i still have the original somewhere, i like the TCG more than the vidoe games so a second TCG VG would be great :)
 
it would be an epic 3 part game of delirium and awesome, maybe there waiting to release it for the wii and have a download package for the card set's then later on have download pack's from the nintendo for point's for when a new set is released. cya
 
richkid50000 said:
what gamerCNSK said was right. and even if they did leave why are you complaining more chances for you to win nats and worlds then? this would be better for playtesting and not wasting paper printing out proxies. maybe they could make the DLC like $10 just to get something out of it. i really think it would be a great idea for this.

Except the GOOD players would stay and play the TCG. I could care less if some of the bad players left, because I never actually worry about it. Sure, if you take a chunk of the bad players out of this game, I may have to deal with a small top cut, but then if I top, it just proves that I am plenty skilled. So that point of your argument is invalid. Second, you cannot test a deck against a computer. A computer will never have the intuition of a human player. What if you ask the computer player to play SP? How will they know what to spray? When to spray it? Lets say you don't need to use Azelf, but the CPU then sprays it. You cant program them to spray every power, its to much. So that would fail miserably. Printing out proxies isn't a big deal, because once you have them, you don't need to print them off again. So that isn't really a problem if you don't throw them away. All of the "flaws" of card game cannot be fixed by a video game. Then, there are things a video game can NEVER do, like act like a human when it comes to playing certain decks. I am not gonna lie, it would be a fun thing, but it just wouldn't work. There was a second TCG VG made, and released in Japan. But due to poor sales in America for the first one, it was never released. If it wasn't popular back when base set was out, it won't be popular now.
 
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