I'm just a little curious about what people think what will be good because of the new Dragon Sets? Are there any new decks that are coming out of this? Anything old that's going to get a new improvement? Please discuss and share your ideas here, so we could discuss if they work. Thanks.
Also, I will be keeping track of all the possible archetypes and opinions people have about certain cards right here.
Garchomp + Altaria is such an obvious archetype due to its great energy-to-damage ratio, plus Gabite is essentially a Sunflora HGSS for dragon pokemom which gives the deck better swam-ability (Dragon Selection mini-set Gabite. Assuming it gets partially released alongside DB). I expect it to do quite well at autumn BR next season. ~ Emperor
Garbodor (Ability shut down)/ Zebstrika (trainer lock) sounds to me like a very good deck. Turn 2 you can be set up with the lock going, and that can be huge in shutting down your opponent. Even though Raikou EX pwns this, add in Crushing hammer, catcher, scarves, anything to get as much consistently and stalling as possible. Its also pretty easy to set up 2 Garbodors, and neither of them are catcherable because of the lock so.....yeah. This deck SHUTS DOWN reshiboar hard. 1st catcher Emboar. oh hey look no retreating or switch. lol. (not like anyone will play Reshiboar.) This deck is going to be great, because it can be played with an immense amount of techs, from Terrakion to Mewtwo EX to Zekrom EX to Shaymin EX to Zekrom, and I don't see how it could have any space issues. This isn't theory I'm stating here- its pretty simple. It is so incredibly easy to get 2 stage ones out Turn 2. Wow after typing this, I really want to run this. ~ Rougechomp
Ninetales DB + Amoonguss ND
These 2 look like they were made for eachother - with just a single Sporprise drop from Amoonguss you can Poison and confuse your opponents defending pokemon. Ninetales attack does 20 damage plus 50 more damage for every special condition on the defending pokemon all for a single Fire energy. So you'll be hitting for 120 damage plus a guaranteed extra 10 damage from the poisom from Sporprise. Ontop of that, Ninetales has bright look - Pokemon Catcher in ability form. Devolution Spray and SSU help main the Sporprise drops. There are the obvious problems:
*Ninetales only has 90HP which is pretty frail.
*Unlike Flariados (which this concept is pretty much based from) Amoonguss is not meant to attack, unlike Flareon ex who could function as an attacker if needed to.
~ Emperor
Wailord/Fliptini might see some play; he has massive HP (220 with cloak) and can do some decent damage. Only problem is lightning weakness.
~festizzio
I'm not too sure about Rayquaza EX. It has a decent-ish first attack to try and accelerate energy onto itself, but the only consistent way i can think of getting energy onto Rayquaza EX to attack consistently is Emboar. There's been talk about combining it with Eelektrik but i just don't see a deck forming round the 2 as Rayquaza EX needs to constantly discard energy and Eelektrik only attaches to the bench. ~ Emperor
With Eelektrik, Rayquaza EX only has 1 retreat, which becomes 0 with Skyarrow Bridge. Using that you can easily alternate between two Rayquaza EXes and hit for 120-180 per turn, or, you can use Switch with 1 Rayquaza EX. It definitely seems like a powerful deck archetype to me, and its only real counter would be a non-EX dragon Pokemon...but so far the only ones than can OHKO Rayquaza EX are Stage 2s, which then get OHKOed back, and swarming Stage 2s isn't very easy even if they only require 1-2 energy to attack.
~ Dark Void
I can seen Mew EX being the more sought-after EX due to its versatility (see what i did thar) if you need a copy of your own attacker but with more HP then Mew EX is the card for you. I can see this working with Ninetales/Amoonguss as 90HP on a main attacker is fairly low plus it's a Mewtwo EX counter, but Mewtwo EX counters Mew EX which makes it kind of moot. ~ Emperor
Mew EX I don't see doing anything sadly since it needs the Pokemon out, it needs the energy, and after all of it its a 120 hp EX. That means your opponent has to average 60 damage to get 1 prizes a turn and 120 damage to average 2 prizes a turn, which is pretty much impossible to keep up with since 120 is so easy to his this format. ~ Dark Void
Also, I will be keeping track of all the possible archetypes and opinions people have about certain cards right here.
POSSIBLE ARCHETYPES:
Garchomp + Altaria is such an obvious archetype due to its great energy-to-damage ratio, plus Gabite is essentially a Sunflora HGSS for dragon pokemom which gives the deck better swam-ability (Dragon Selection mini-set Gabite. Assuming it gets partially released alongside DB). I expect it to do quite well at autumn BR next season. ~ Emperor
Garbodor (Ability shut down)/ Zebstrika (trainer lock) sounds to me like a very good deck. Turn 2 you can be set up with the lock going, and that can be huge in shutting down your opponent. Even though Raikou EX pwns this, add in Crushing hammer, catcher, scarves, anything to get as much consistently and stalling as possible. Its also pretty easy to set up 2 Garbodors, and neither of them are catcherable because of the lock so.....yeah. This deck SHUTS DOWN reshiboar hard. 1st catcher Emboar. oh hey look no retreating or switch. lol. (not like anyone will play Reshiboar.) This deck is going to be great, because it can be played with an immense amount of techs, from Terrakion to Mewtwo EX to Zekrom EX to Shaymin EX to Zekrom, and I don't see how it could have any space issues. This isn't theory I'm stating here- its pretty simple. It is so incredibly easy to get 2 stage ones out Turn 2. Wow after typing this, I really want to run this. ~ Rougechomp
Ninetales DB + Amoonguss ND
These 2 look like they were made for eachother - with just a single Sporprise drop from Amoonguss you can Poison and confuse your opponents defending pokemon. Ninetales attack does 20 damage plus 50 more damage for every special condition on the defending pokemon all for a single Fire energy. So you'll be hitting for 120 damage plus a guaranteed extra 10 damage from the poisom from Sporprise. Ontop of that, Ninetales has bright look - Pokemon Catcher in ability form. Devolution Spray and SSU help main the Sporprise drops. There are the obvious problems:
*Ninetales only has 90HP which is pretty frail.
*Unlike Flariados (which this concept is pretty much based from) Amoonguss is not meant to attack, unlike Flareon ex who could function as an attacker if needed to.
~ Emperor
Wailord/Fliptini might see some play; he has massive HP (220 with cloak) and can do some decent damage. Only problem is lightning weakness.
~festizzio
Rayquaza-EX?
I'm not too sure about Rayquaza EX. It has a decent-ish first attack to try and accelerate energy onto itself, but the only consistent way i can think of getting energy onto Rayquaza EX to attack consistently is Emboar. There's been talk about combining it with Eelektrik but i just don't see a deck forming round the 2 as Rayquaza EX needs to constantly discard energy and Eelektrik only attaches to the bench. ~ Emperor
With Eelektrik, Rayquaza EX only has 1 retreat, which becomes 0 with Skyarrow Bridge. Using that you can easily alternate between two Rayquaza EXes and hit for 120-180 per turn, or, you can use Switch with 1 Rayquaza EX. It definitely seems like a powerful deck archetype to me, and its only real counter would be a non-EX dragon Pokemon...but so far the only ones than can OHKO Rayquaza EX are Stage 2s, which then get OHKOed back, and swarming Stage 2s isn't very easy even if they only require 1-2 energy to attack.
~ Dark Void
Mew EX?
I can seen Mew EX being the more sought-after EX due to its versatility (see what i did thar) if you need a copy of your own attacker but with more HP then Mew EX is the card for you. I can see this working with Ninetales/Amoonguss as 90HP on a main attacker is fairly low plus it's a Mewtwo EX counter, but Mewtwo EX counters Mew EX which makes it kind of moot. ~ Emperor
Mew EX I don't see doing anything sadly since it needs the Pokemon out, it needs the energy, and after all of it its a 120 hp EX. That means your opponent has to average 60 damage to get 1 prizes a turn and 120 damage to average 2 prizes a turn, which is pretty much impossible to keep up with since 120 is so easy to his this format. ~ Dark Void
I would love to OHKO their pokemon with gothitelle.