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Rayquaza Donk Deck???

RE: Rayquaza Donk Deck??

PokéCastXVll said:
Why not Skyarrow Bridge? Having free retreat all across the board would benefit you tremendously paired with Max Potion. Have to say though, I'm not a fan of Terrakion with Raquaza. Adding in {F} is messing with the consistency a little for my liking, especially given the fact you could unintentionally discard it. I personally would go with something that fits the energy you're playing such as normal Rayquaza or perhaps Zekrom.

How would you unintentionally discard the fighting energy? And the normal rayquaza cost way too much to be an option for most people. Zekrom is an okay option, but if rayquaza can't ohko something, zekrom won't either. Unless we're talking about siglyph, but like I mentioned, terrakion deals with it just fine. And if you hit the fighting energy off of rayquaza's first attack, you just use energy switch to get it onto terrakion.


@dweaver, I wouldn't recommend experience share with tool scrapper being a one of or sometimes 2 of in decks. So much so that Japanese players tend to use potion over eviolite.
 
RE: Rayquaza Donk Deck??

CarlosDuranJr said:
And the normal rayquaza cost way too much to be an option for most people. Zekrom is an okay option, but if rayquaza can't ohko something, zekrom won't either. Unless we're talking about siglyph, but like I mentioned, terrakion deals with it just fine.

Cost too much? In reference to its retreat cost perhaps (which Terrakion has more of), but a single {L} for 40 isn't too bad in my estimation. I don't understand why the cost factor is such a problem considering Terrakion requires the same amount of Energy? Not to mention, Rayquaza flows a lot better with the synergy of the deck, in exchange to adding in other different elements. The bottom line is, it's only another {C} on top of what you'd be attaching for the EX copy anyway so is it really that big of a deal? Furthermore you've just highlighted Energy Switch, so in conclusion I don't see the cost factor being a problem IMO and does the job just fine.

Regarding Siglyph, that's primarily what you'd be teching against as you're ideally focusing to Dragon Burst most of the time. I did have an idea though, and that was perhaps Garbador with Raquaza... Might have to test this myself.
 
RE: Rayquaza Donk Deck??

CarlosDuranJr said:
Cost too much as in it's a $100 card at the moment.

Ah... I get you now, my apologies. It is rather expensive and will be tough to get hold of, but in my opinion is the ideal fit. Remembering you'd only need to run one or two at max.
 
RE: Rayquaza Donk Deck??

I might even run two Rayquaza. Yeah, the cost (both $ and retreat), but isn't it likely we'll get the non shinny version in the next set or something? And you can donk a lot easier if you're actually attacking T1.
 
RE: Rayquaza Donk Deck??

ther not a real problem with sigileaf us catcher wisly (3 ex / 2 normals 2 ex) and sigileaf will be there to be a rubiish card
 
RE: Rayquaza Donk Deck??

PokéCastXVll said:
Cost too much? In reference to its retreat cost perhaps (which Terrakion has more of), but a single {L} for 40 isn't too bad in my estimation. I don't understand why the cost factor is such a problem considering Terrakion requires the same amount of Energy? Not to mention, Rayquaza flows a lot better with the synergy of the deck, in exchange to adding in other different elements. The bottom line is, it's only another {C} on top of what you'd be attaching for the EX copy anyway so is it really that big of a deal? Furthermore you've just highlighted Energy Switch, so in conclusion I don't see the cost factor being a problem IMO and does the job just fine.

Regarding Siglyph, that's primarily what you'd be teching against as you're ideally focusing to Dragon Burst most of the time. I did have an idea though, and that was perhaps Garbador with Raquaza... Might have to test this myself.
Garbodor sounds like a good idea, but the problem is he would just be catchered up by Sigilyph and Ko so Im not sure if id do that but thanks for the advice:p

superpokemon321 said:
ther not a real problem with sigileaf us catcher wisly (3 ex / 2 normals 2 ex) and sigileaf will be there to be a rubiish card
Yeah I see your point to just work around Sigilyph and then start attacking other guys and Sigilyph does take awhile to charge up

PokéCastXVll said:
Ah... I get you now, my apologies. It is rather expensive and will be tough to get hold of, but in my opinion is the ideal fit. Remembering you'd only need to run one or two at max.
I dont understand why its 100 bucks its not even that good of a card. Are people even buying it?

Mora said:
I might even run two Rayquaza. Yeah, the cost (both $ and retreat), but isn't it likely we'll get the non shinny version in the next set or something? And you can donk a lot easier if you're actually attacking T1.
We may even get it in a tin or a blister pack or something as a promo before then thats what I hope

PokéCastXVll said:
Ah... I get you now, my apologies. It is rather expensive and will be tough to get hold of, but in my opinion is the ideal fit. Remembering you'd only need to run one or two at max.
Im going to a prerelease today so maybe I can pull it, but I dont think ill be that lucky
 
RE: Rayquaza Donk Deck??

Very few cards get promo prints while they are still playable. These fall tins being an exception. Even if it gets a normal print in November, it'll still be pricey. At most it would be 2 per box as it'll still be a holo, and you still might not get one in a box. As one of 4 secret rares, it currently averages to 1 every 12 boxes. Which is why it's so much. And attacking t-1 with regular rayquaza isn't that great compared to turn 2 150 from rayquaza ex.
 
RE: Rayquaza Donk Deck??

Yes, but T2 isn't considered donking. Especially if you lose the coin flip. The idea behind Rayquaza would be if your opponent started with a Gible or Tynamo, you Switch and get the donk that way.
 
RE: Rayquaza Donk Deck??

Mora said:
Yes, but T2 isn't considered donking. Especially if you lose the coin flip. The idea behind Rayquaza would be if your opponent started with a Gible or Tynamo, you Switch and get the donk that way.

i guess your right but also if you win on turn two it like you won on turn one in a way
 
RE: Rayquaza Donk Deck??

superpokemon321 said:
i guess your right but also if you win on turn two it like you won on turn one in a way
yep

CarlosDuranJr said:
Very few cards get promo prints while they are still playable. These fall tins being an exception. Even if it gets a normal print in November, it'll still be pricey. At most it would be 2 per box as it'll still be a holo, and you still might not get one in a box. As one of 4 secret rares, it currently averages to 1 every 12 boxes. Which is why it's so much. And attacking t-1 with regular rayquaza isn't that great compared to turn 2 150 from rayquaza ex.
Wow thats crazy and do people even buy him at crazy prices like that

Mora said:
Yes, but T2 isn't considered donking. Especially if you lose the coin flip. The idea behind Rayquaza would be if your opponent started with a Gible or Tynamo, you Switch and get the donk that way.
I see, but the problem is if they have more than 1 basic
 
RE: Rayquaza Donk Deck??

Dweaver said:
I see, but the problem is if they have more than 1 basic

That'a not too much of a problem. You still get the T1 KO. If they have more than one Basic, then there's no way you could have donked to begin with.
 
RE: Rayquaza Donk Deck??

Mora said:
That'a not too much of a problem. You still get the T1 KO. If they have more than one Basic, then there's no way you could have donked to begin with.
Yeah good point you can really put ur opponent on some early game pressure
 
I tested this deck a lot and it seems to be a tier 2 deck I really like it and I made some changes so here is a UPDATE list
Pokemon (4)
4-Rayquaza EX
T/S/S (22)
4-Pokedex
3-N
3-Max Potion
3-Eviolite
4-Pokemon Catcher
3-Ultra Ball
1-Tool Scrapper
1-Skyarrow Bridge
Energy (32)
16-Lighting
16-Fire
I feel like the deck is a lot better now thanks to Pokedex and Pokemon Catcher. Thanks so much guys
 
RE: Rayquaza Donk Deck??

I'd drop an Max Potion for another Skyarrow. Max Potion helps but discards everything which could cause you to re setup. The deck looks like so much fun. I just have to make it.
 
RE: Rayquaza Donk Deck??

I think you are forgetting one pokemon in particular ...

Sigilyph
Dragons Exalted set
Card # 52/124
 
RE: Rayquaza Donk Deck??

Bryan506 said:
I think you are forgetting one pokemon in particular ...

Sigilyph
Dragons Exalted set
Card # 52/124
The one thing about Sigilyph is I never faced it yet in a ton of Play tcg battles and I can always Catcher around it and im afraid that if I do add a Sigilyph counter I will end up destroying the consistancy of this deck,but if you have any suggestions on how to counter it give me suggestions

RogueChomp said:
I'd drop an Max Potion for another Skyarrow. Max Potion helps but discards everything which could cause you to re setup. The deck looks like so much fun. I just have to make it.
Yes it is very fun A lot of people laugh when I mulligan and all they see are energy there like ??? It is so funny to see the look on their face. Yes u have to make it a beastly
 
RE: Rayquaza Donk Deck??

Ya, I think that Sigilyph would be a MAJOR problem to this deck.
Maybe Regular Rayquaza from Dragons Exalted?
 
RE: Rayquaza Donk Deck??

Diet said:
Ya, I think that Sigilyph would be a MAJOR problem to this deck.
Maybe Regular Rayquaza from Dragons Exalted?
Yeah Sigilyph could be a major problem but then I could just Scoop :p and Regular Rayquaza is $100 Shipped :( and Im only 14 so Ill have to trade for it and do u have any other suggestions that are cheap cards
 
RE: Rayquaza Donk Deck??

Add 4 v-create victini. ;) or thunderous. Tornadus would be ok if you ran dce, but in that case maybe boufalant (revenge) would work better. Thunderous might be the best option
 
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