Rayquaza EX

iisnumber12 said:
I think the way this card will be played is:

Rayquaza EX/Eelektrik/Blissey Prime/Skyarrow Bridge/Max Potion

or SMERB. This card may not have a huge impact though, because it will be really easy to OHKO with all of the new Dragon types.

Of course it will recieve hype, Because, it can KO the other dragon types aswell.

Nigel said:
I can see this card being played with the new Altaria and Eels/Skyarrow bridge. Since Skyarrow Bridge gives Rayquaza-EX gets free Retreat, then you can retreat it to Dynamotor back onto it, while bringing up a fully charged Rayquaza. The Altaria makes it so that this card can do ridiculous amounts of damage, in addition to the ridiculous amounts it's already doing. I seriously think that this card is going to be expensive, and is going to change the game around since, like Mewtwo-EX, its only counter (that is known so far) is itself.

Or an easier way: Attack. dynamotor onto one with a fire energy on the bench. switch using skyarrow. It uses up less energy
 
Yes but since it is going to be hyped, its also going to be teched against like what happened to mew two. I think the best way to play rayquaza is with emboar since if with eelektrik, to consistently make OHKOs against the 180 hp pokemon is by discarding three or more energies per turn so you will have to setup more eelektriks. I'd rather just setup one emboar because it also has higher hp and you can attach as many energy as you want per turn, and because it won't suffer as much to straight terrakion.
 
Not to get off topic, but if the japanese get a Promo campaign for Rayquaza and Giritina Ex, shouldn't we get them as tin promos? I mean, its only fair?
 
Giantoshawott said:
Not to get off topic, but if the japanese get a Promo campaign for Rayquaza and Giritina Ex, shouldn't we get them as tin promos? I mean, its only fair?

We never get the same deal as japan. I think we gave up good prices to hold worlds each year.
 
Celebi23 said:
Garchomp has a lot going for it. Built-in search. 80 for 1 with a positive effect, which is far more powerful than most playable 1-energy attacks we have right now. Plus 120 for two and a very, very manageable drawback makes it very appealing to me. But time will tell.

I wish it did that much. It only does 60 and 100, not 80 and 120. =(
 
sillykyle said:
I wish it did that much. It only does 60 and 100, not 80 and 120. =(

I believe that Celebi23 is assuming that the Garchomp player will always have an Altaria out. Speaking of Altaria it could be a good anti-Eviolite/Large Cloak in this deck or to help Rayquaza KO stuff like Zekrom and Reshiram BW with only discarding 2 energy..
 
Simwar said:
Positive things compared to Magnezone:
It does 10 more dmg for each energy.
You don't have to send the energy to the Lost Zone
It is basic.
Only 1 retreat cost.
Wait. It is also a Basic :D. But is also an EX (EX rule)
 
you do know that there is a sigilyph card that takes no damage from exs to right just a few of those could screw this deck
 
Yeah, I'd rather just attack Sigilyph with one of my Set-up Pokemon. I'd have to change tactics, but that seems better than changing the whole deck.
 
Actually, Garbodor hurts this deck more than it helps it since it locks your own Eelektriks. You'd have to spend two turns playing Garbodor, hope they don't simply retreat to something to kill Rayquaza while you do that, and then drop a tool on it, then play Tool Scrapper on the next turn. And did I mention that neither the tools nor Tool Scrapper are searchable?
 
There is this card called Pokémon Catcher. It is good in most things. Seriously, Sigilyph is worse than putting a 4 of spades in your deck before top cut. Not to mention, the deck we are discussing could OHKO 2HKO Sigilyph with Eelektrik if the situation really called for it. Seriously guys. The reality is that Sigilyph will never be good, because its attacking power can't back up its incredibly pathetic stats, and there are no decks that only play EX Pokémon. Also, lol at Garbodor cause Abilities, and while we are at it, let's pair Archeops with Vileplume. Poképaradoxes.

Edit: I guess that Sigilyph is weak to Psychic instead of Lightning, which doesn't make sense, so I was wrong about the Eelektrik thing. You can still two shot Sigilyph will Eelektrik in a tough situation, not to mention this deck will probably still be carrying a Zekrom/Reshiram/Audino tech.
 
Vulpix Yolk said:
and while we are at it, let's pair Archeops with Vileplume.

Been there; done that. Lol. (Btw, there's a Stadium that will let you play Revived Pokemon to your Bench.)
 
Rayquaza EX is fantastic, to say the very least. I think we're gonna have problems like we do with Mewtwo EX, where we need to tech Rayquaza in if we want to counter...Rayquaza. All of the other Dragons are not very good, but Ray can do some huge damage with little Energy. Furthermore, it has a decent Retreat Cost, so Skyarrow Bridge gives this bad boy a Retreat Cost of zero. Discarding only two Energy to KO an opposing Ray or three to get rid of Mewtwo is phenomenal. Expect this card to be extremely close to the BDIF.
 
Serperior said:
Rayquaza EX is fantastic, to say the very least. I think we're gonna have problems like we do with Mewtwo EX, where we need to tech Rayquaza in if we want to counter...Rayquaza. All of the other Dragons are not very good, but Ray can do some huge damage with little Energy. Furthermore, it has a decent Retreat Cost, so Skyarrow Bridge gives this bad boy a Retreat Cost of zero. Discarding only two Energy to KO an opposing Ray or three to get rid of Mewtwo is phenomenal. Expect this card to be extremely close to the BDIF.

The problem with this is that Mewtwo EX is easily splashable due to being able to simply use DCE, which is in many decks, or just 2 of any energy. Rayquaza EX on the other hand requires 3 energy in any combination of Fire and Lightning to KO another Rayquaza EX. Not only do few decks actually run that energy, but there's no way any deck other than Eels or Emboar (or Typhlosion, but that will probably be rotated) can actually attach those 3 energy before their Rayquaza is Catcher KOed. The only thing I can think of that would actually work would be Sigilyph, but so long as the RayEels player uses a non-EX capable of hitting 90 damage then that doesn't work very well at all. I don't like to hype but I'm honestly not seeing a whole lot that can stand up to RayEels.
 
Except that pesky garbodor/zebstrika....
But on another note, i think this deck is going to make mewtwo EX a lot less usable, because in an ideal situation you only have 1 energy on rayquaza during your opponents turn.
 
Dark Void said:
The problem with this is that Mewtwo EX is easily splashable due to being able to simply use DCE, which is in many decks, or just 2 of any energy. Rayquaza EX on the other hand requires 3 energy in any combination of Fire and Lightning to KO another Rayquaza EX. Not only do few decks actually run that energy, but there's no way any deck other than Eels or Emboar (or Typhlosion, but that will probably be rotated) can actually attach those 3 energy before their Rayquaza is Catcher KOed. The only thing I can think of that would actually work would be Sigilyph, but so long as the RayEels player uses a non-EX capable of hitting 90 damage then that doesn't work very well at all. I don't like to hype but I'm honestly not seeing a whole lot that can stand up to RayEels.

Understood. But check Eelzone out. ZekEels. ReshiBoar. Those decks run Fire and Electric Energy, and some run a Prism. Rayquaza EX may not have the drop, DCE, Retreat and KO simplicity Mewtwo EX has, but it certainly has the capability when you have Emboar or Eelektrik on the Bench that can charge it up.
 
I don't really think this should be paired with Emboar. The attack says "discard either all Fire Energy or Lightning Energy", so you could simply attach a Fire-type Energy and leave it there while only discard Electric-type Energy. Emboar is just slower and more susceptible to Catcher, plus harder to get out. Getting out an Emboar is asking for too much. I'm not saying you couldn't run Rayquaza in ReshiBoar, but I don't think you're playing it to its full potential. The same kind of goes for TyRam as well.

As a bonus, Rayquaza is a nice addition in Electric-type decks thanks to its Dragon-type weakness.
 
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