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Hello People, I have been using red shark lately this thread is to ask a couple questions:

1 How do you like red shark?
2 Do you want to play on red shark (if we are one at the same time).
3 Is red shark a smart idea for sombody who compete's?
 
1. I like the idea of Redshark, however I dislike the shuffling randomizer as it makes playing on RS very different from playing in real life. I consider that a biased test, which is why I only play on Redshark against one or two people unless I'm asked.
2. Probably not, no offense. I rarely have time and I generally only play games outside of tournaments to test.
3. It depends, if a player has no idea how to use a deck or nobody good in their area then yes. However, if it can be avoided then it should be, imo.
 
The shuffling randomizer is terrible. If your testing is biased you may as well not test at all.
 
It's difficult for me to learn from it. I make more mistakes on redshark, then in real play. I think RS is great for players who can't regularly go to league/tournys, but when it really matters; Real>RS.
 
Well I think getting a bad start is good. It teaches you what to do in tournaments when you get a bad start. If your in a tournament and your always ready for good starts and then you get a bad start you will be dead, but if your ready for the bad start then you will have more hope.
 
Yeah, and I'm sure not being able to do anything until your opponent has one prize left is a great way to learn how to use a deck. And your post doesn't make any sense because you're saying nobody gets poor starts practicing in real life, then they do in tournaments. It's one thing to get a bad start 1/5 times, but it's something completely different getting one 4/5 times.
 
Celebi23: I never said you never get bad starts in real life. What im trying to say is this is a great way to learn how to get out of bad starts when your alone. Obviously when you have a friend then you can just play him like 100 times to learn how to get out of it, but when you are alone you can make your deck and an oppenents deck and practice. Like I could put my Rayquaza C deck in and then make a LuxApe deck and practice. then I can learn how to get out of bad starts and how to take down certain decks. So there is another reason to use red shark.
 
Getting out of bad starts?yea rs teaches us that well,:p.
But yes, for people who dont have anybody good in their area and people who dont have OP(like me)can use it very well.
 
85dakota85 said:
Celebi23: I never said you never get bad starts in real life. What im trying to say is this is a great way to learn how to get out of bad starts when your alone. Obviously when you have a friend then you can just play him like 100 times to learn how to get out of it, but when you are alone you can make your deck and an oppenents deck and practice. Like I could put my Rayquaza C deck in and then make a LuxApe deck and practice. then I can learn how to get out of bad starts and how to take down certain decks. So there is another reason to use red shark.
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I could proxy the cards in real life for the second deck if I didn't have the cards for it.
 
yeah but if you proxy a bunch of cards that takes more time and ink and paper. I do find proxying cards helpful but not in this case.
 
Seriously Celbi?
You're making excuses about the shuffling randomizer?
Who cares?
It mixes up the cards better than most humans do, and I you don't get bad starts THAT often.
All I can say is wow.
To all of you that care about the shuffling randomizer.
 
This thread is getting pointless, so this will be my last post here.
nabby- If I'm not satisfied with my opponent's shuffling I'm allowed to shuffle their deck. A couple pile shuffles randomizes a deck surprisingly well. Redshark is a great program and all but when trying to get some testing for a major event done I'd much rather have a real life shuffle than one done by a computer. I know someone who had this amazing Dusknoir deck back during Cities. It was doing so well on RS, then he went 2-3 at Cities. That's a great example of why I care about the randomizer. Playing in real life also means you're not looking at a screen all day and it gives invaluable social interaction.

85dakota85- as long as you know what the card does, you can just hand-write it with a pencil in tiny letters. As long as you hand-sharpen the pencil (lol), all you're wasting is one sheet of paper and a bit of graphite and wood. Then just put the piece of paper in a sleeve with a flipped over card in it.

As a competitive player, I mainly play games to test my deck. I find Redshark to provide a baised test most of the time. I did my testing on Redshark for Worlds. and I finished with a 3-4 record. While the competition level may have been higher at worlds than other events, I found the decks tested on RS to run a lot better or worse in real life than on RS. Especially considering that I've placed a lot better in tournaments that I prepared for in real life.

I think Redshark is a great idea and a great program. It opens up a lot of windows for a lot of players. I just don't think it's the best way to test a deck for competitive play. And I know a lot of people that agree with me.
 
nabby101 said:
Good grief, WHO CARES IF IT DOESN'T SHUFFLE 100% PERFECT EVERY TIME?
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Everyone, considering consistency is the only way to win in the PTCG. But if people want to win on 100% luck, let them try (and fail).

dmaster out.
 
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