Sandy Hook School Shooting in Connecticut

[Glace]

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Gun control would be an earlier prevention, like taking a vaccination instead of waiting until you get sick to react. If you wait until you get sick, there is damage done, which in this case is, sadly, lives. With gun control, you would keep insane people from getting guns, or at least getting them this easily.

 

[MrSquarepants]

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I'm really don't understand why some 20 year old would want to kills bunch of 5-10 year olds. What's this world coming to?

I heard this was all because of a fight between him and his mom the teacher. He killed those he blamed for taking his mom away, meaning the principal and students. Then settled things with mom by killing her and then killed himself. My problem is that he had a rifle. That kind of war weapon really shouldn't be available to "someone with a clean record". If he only had a handgun maybe some of them could have lived. Then again they're kids so they'd be too scared to run from a handgun. Still...

 

[Equinox]

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I'm really don't understand why some 20 year old would want to kills bunch of 5-10 year olds. What's this world coming to?

I heard this all because of a fight between him and his mom the teacher. He killed those he blamed for taking his mom away, meaning the principal and students. Then settled things with mom by killing her and then killed himself. My problem is that he had a rifle. That kind of war weapon really shouldn't be available to "someone with a clean record". If he only had a handgun maybe some of them could have lived. Then again they're kids so they'd be too scared to run from a handgun. Still...

Actually, the rifle wasn't used, he used the two pistols.

I also find it highly stupid that we're having an argument on the gunmen would've been treated differently had they had been of another race. That is ignorant and stupid, and should not be brought up. It has nothing to do with the issue at hand. Indirect Racism is like being racist without knowing it; ridiculous.

Also, Zenith, I don't get much out of your argument. If they have a gun, and you don't, do you really think you're going to subdue them that easily?

Another Edit: My thoughts truly go out to the parents of the deceased, it is a terrible day/week for America, especially since it's so close to the holidays :/

 

[MrSquarepants]

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Pistols were used? Wow. Must had a good number of mags to get 26 people. Okay then so pistols being handed to people such as himself is a pretty big problem then. Not gonna get into a gun control argument but situations like this can be averted if it were more difficult for a citizen to get a gun. It's too late to talk about could've wouldve should've, I know but to think their daily lives were so fragile because of that carelessness is too much. What's that gunship owner thinking now? Is it regret for selling it? Or pride for having his pockets filled?

 

[dmaster]

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There seems to be a lot of stuff being said in the media that's just plain not true.

Take it what you will, but an article written about nine hours said that he killed his mom at his house and then drove to the school. I believe some people said that she was a teacher, but she was never listed on the faculty list, even as a substitute. Also the medical examiner said that the semi-automatic military style rifle was used in the shooting. And all the guns were registered to his mom. So there's that.

This is just a sad story. I definitely agree with our President that something needs to change because these are pretty much getting standard now and I'm sick and tired of it. Whether that means tighter gun control laws or more security, I don't know what the solution is but something needs to change now.

dmaster out.

 

[r3skyline]

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Pistols were used? Wow. Must had a good number of mags to get 26 people.

http://www.keltecweapons.com/our-guns/pistols/pmr-30/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2KZMI-qNvY

What i like to use at the range. LEGALLY

 

[Equinox]

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Idk Dmaster, there are so many different version of the story it's hard to tell the truth from the outrageous media. And there is a hand gun that has a 30 round magazine, I've seen it somewhere (I think @Military channel)

 

[r3skyline]

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^If you looked at my link i posted, you would see the 30 round pistol. lol

 

[MrSquarepants]

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For some reason I thought pistols only had 6 or 12 rounds. Shows you how much I know! And I dunno man all I have heard so far is that there was a lotta tension between Adam and his mum. If they had a big fight and she threatened him something like "well finish this when I come home I'm gonna make sure *this* happens as punishment!" yknow and he gets all anxious, finds her stash of guns (or did he buy them?) hunts her down and goes nuts. But if it were that easy to deduce... Maybe there's more to it? Without a corpse whisperer or a soul who can perform ghost tricks and go back 4 minutes before they died, we can't ascertain the entire truth. But I shouldn't be making wishful thinking its not helping.

 

[Equinox]

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Sorry r3skyline I have known about 30 round pistols for awhile though. I also think we should hold off on this story until everything becomes much clearer, the media has several different stories.

 

[r3skyline]

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I noticed while i was at work that morning, the media did state, mother was a teacher and killed at the school, not even 10 minutes later they said she was killed at the home where originally the media said the father was killed at. Oh media/fox news...how you make me laugh

 

[Equinox]

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I noticed while i was at work that morning, the media did state, mother was a teacher and killed at the school, not even 10 minutes later they said she was killed at the home where originally the media said the father was killed at. Oh media/fox news...how you make me laugh

Yeah, it's pretty lolsy, CNN even stated there was a second person involved.

 

[iamtheman]

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We need to support mental health patients and make stricter gun control laws!

http://www.change.org/petitions/make-stricter-gun-control-laws-and-support-mental-health-patients

 

[r3skyline]

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Has nothing to do about making more strict gun laws. It's about the lack of health care for people with mental issues. And mind you, this can range from anger management to depression to insanity. There is hardly a footprint as most MDs want to have a person learn self control rather than true medication for a chemical imbalance.

 

[Elk-Dimension]

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Has nothing to do about making more strict gun laws. It's about the lack of health care for people with mental issues. And mind you, this can range from anger management to depression to insanity. There is hardly a footprint as most MDs want to have a person learn self control rather than true medication for a chemical imbalance.

This is certainly something to consider. However, I don't feel like it needs to be one or the other with this issue. I fail to see any reason why the government cannot both provide better care for those who are mentally ill, as well as renew the ban on assault weapons (and strengthen gun control laws overall, but imo the ban on assault weapons is a good place to start).

 

[r3skyline]

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Assault weapons? You realize any person with enough strength can make literally any object an assault weapon. If youre speaking of assault rifles, they are already pretty strict on the laws about those, and the only place i know for sure without doing a google search, that allows full automatic rifles is Arizona. But how often have they been in the news for full auto weapon attacks? As for pistols, have you obtained one lately or do you just read what you see? I cant tell you how many people i know in the army who were turned away from obtaining a pistol just because of either debt or from the background check.

 

[ChiefLittleFish]

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All of these prophecies about the end of the world won't happen because of zombies or aliens or any kind of natural disasters. It will be the stupidity of the human race that brings us down to killing each other. This is not the survival of the fittest,this is sorrowful news, and those sick people that live out there and can do such a thing are hopefully in for a rude awakening soon.

Edit: All of thes 1st-person shooters may be affecting the minds of the newer generations. I know 5-year-olds who play them, and yet nobody seems to be worried about stuff like that. Playing those doesn't make you a better shoot, and if we all were to play them we would be in an even sorrier state. But on the other hand, if everyone played them we might not have all these shootings. Just something to think about.

 

[Elite Stride]

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The president announced today that steps are being taken to assess gun control policy by January. [link=http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/19/obama-gun-violence-task-force_n_2331238.html]Here's an article on the announcement[/link]. They are discussing reissuing a ban on assault weapons that expired a few years ago.

All of thes 1st-person shooters may be affecting the minds of the newer generations. I know 5-year-olds who play them, and yet nobody seems to be worried about stuff like that.

THIS. Honestly, this couldn't be more true. I would blame these kinds of things happening more on kids playing violent shooting games than on a lack of mental illness healthcare. The high influence of videogames is scientifically proven.

Besides, considering the circumstances, the shooter even having a mental illness is a debatable topic. I bet none of the people who knew him would have even guessed he would do this, nonetheless think he needed to seek medical care. So I can't see how the availability of healthcare or lack thereof would have even made a difference in his situation. One might say, "Oh, but you must be insane to kill children!" this may be true, but it doesn't always work that way.

 

[Glace]

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Has nothing to do about making more strict gun laws. It's about the lack of health care for people with mental issues. And mind you, this can range from anger management to depression to insanity. There is hardly a footprint as most MDs want to have a person learn self control rather than true medication for a chemical imbalance.

So it was a good idea for a mother of an insane son to have guns at hand?

 

[Guts]

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All of thes 1st-person shooters may be affecting the minds of the newer generations. I know 5-year-olds who play them, and yet nobody seems to be worried about stuff like that. Playing those doesn't make you a better shoot, and if we all were to play them we would be in an even sorrier state. But on the other hand, if everyone played them we might not have all these shootings. Just something to think about.

Yes, video games were obviously the cause of this shooting and many other violent acts across the nation. Not bad parenting, not mental instability, not poor surroundings. It's those evil video games.