Scizor (Prime) from Undaunted (#82) [8/24]

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Guiding questions:
1. How does the card stand on its own? Is it good, bad, or have potential? Is it worth being played?
2. What popular metagame decks is it used in?
3. What combos can you use it with? How so?
4. Give it a rating, and explain why you have given it that rating. You can also rate the card by rating the thread itself (out of 5 stars).
5. How's the artwork?

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RE: Scizor (Prime) from Undaunted (#84) [8/24]

Guiding questions:
1. How does the card stand on its own? Is it good, bad, or have potential? Is it worth being played?
2. What popular metagame decks is it used in?
3. What combos can you use it with? How so?
4. Give it a rating, and explain why you have given it that rating. You can also rate the card by rating the thread itself (out of 5 stars).
5. How's the artwork?

1:this card is pretty useful, especially against SP decks. its definitely worth being played.
2.its not used in many yet. im sure that will change.
3.tyranitar or ursaring prime may be able to work with it.
4.4/5 its pretty good, but its not perfect.
5.love the artwork. really shows scizor's "dark" side. :D
 
RE: Scizor (Prime) from Undaunted (#84) [8/24]

1. It's definitely got some potential. With all the special energy used in the format right now there are plenty of things that can't touch it.
2. None as of yet.
3. I'd probably run it with Bronzong sf to get more energies and hit for more damage quicker. Energy Exchanger would work well with it to grab special metals, too.
4. 3/5
5. S'pretty cool.
 
RE: Scizor (Prime) from Undaunted (#84) [8/24]

1. It can stand on its own. Some Pokemon use Special Energy as a crutch and this counters them. This card is the best UD Prime to use in a deck, bar none.
2. This card is new at ths time, therefore, it has not seen much play yet.
3. From I can guess, Metal Pokemon and basic Metals to not be locked out by other Scizor Primes.
4. 4/5. It's a really good card for this format, but this card is may not make an impact in the current format unless more Special Energy usage increases.
5. I find the face to lok somewhat ugly, but the overall art is well made. 3.5/5
 
RE: Scizor (Prime) from Undaunted (#84) [8/24]

1. How does the card stand on its own? Is it good, bad, or have potential? Is it worth being played?
Definitely the Standout from Undaunted's PRIMES. Alone it's not a bad card, if you can build a Deck to support it has the potential to be a power sweeper as well as take a beating if you're using Special {M}'s.
It's Body is nice, but rather situational. Although with {C}{C} Energies enjoying their recent comeback, it's not as situational as it might've been pre-HS/SS.
A good Blaze Deck though will destroy it.
2. What popular metagame decks is it used in?
I suppose you could chuck it in a Sablelock or another stonewalling Deck, but really, you're better off trying to build a Rouge Deck around it then shaving cards out of your popular Meta-Decks out there. Might work if you Meta it right, although most likely not, and if it does, just a massive hassle to work around. You can try if you want, but it'd be best to just keep it out.
3. What combos can you use it with? How so?
A couple of Special {M}'s, and a single Expert Belt could pretty much give Scizor the ability to take a beating plus dealing out massive damage from Metal Scissors' Effect, and if you take on someone who's relying on {C}{C}, you've pretty much won from the getgo if you can get him out.
4. Give it a rating, and explain why you have given it that rating. You can also rate the card by rating the thread itself (out of 5 stars).
Suppose a solid 3/5 is the general rating I'd give, although there's possiblity for a tenative 4/5 if you can figure a way to build around it to work in your favor
5. How's the artwork?
Meh, it's PRIME artwork. Albeit one of the better ones, but not a big fan of the CG images the PRIME cards have. So, it's decent in it's class, but still meh generally.
 
RE: Scizor (Prime) from Undaunted (#84) [8/24]

1. It can be pretty good. If both energies attached to it are metal, it does 70. If those are special metal energies, it also reduces damage done. Not to mention, psychic resistance is useful against your opponents use of strategy, because psychics make good supporters.

2. I cannot judge this because I don't play in metagame.

3. I would pair it with gliscor or skarmory from undaunted. With gliscor, if it already has an energy, Hit the opponent with ninja fang and attach an energy to scizor, then retreat it, attach an energy to scizor and use metal scissors for 110 damage and no retaliation.

4. I'd give it 3.5. It is good, but with no protection from special conditions, and decks like luxchomp have resistance, because of luxray gl lv. X, and it attacks just as fast.

5. I don't like the artwork. It's too bleak.
 
RE: Scizor (Prime) from Undaunted (#84) [8/24]

1. How does the card stand on its own? Is it good, bad, or have potential? Is it worth being played?
It's a complete troll to Special Energy, which more often that not you WILL encounter in most decks.
2. What popular metagame decks is it used in?
None at the moment, but by the end of BR's that'll change
3. What combos can you use it with? How so?
It's a real good combo with 4 special steel and a Steelix Prime.
4. Give it a rating, and explain why you have given it that rating. You can also rate the card by rating the thread itself (out of 5 stars).
I'd give it a 3.75/5 because it hasn't shown it's ability yet and does have that weakness to fire, but at the same time blocks all sepcial energies from getting a hit in on it.
5. How's the artwork?
Amazing, one of the better artworks from the Prime set. (EDIT: Though I just noticed it's claws look like trapinches)
 
RE: Scizor (Prime) from Undaunted (#84) [8/24]

1. Possibly. It can do heavy damage but is slow. And gardevoir can seriously hurt it.
2. None right now. I'm not sure how it could.
3. Leafeon lv x and this is a quick and dangerous setup. Skarmory ud, dialga pl (energy stream), and steelix prime might also work.
4. 2.5/5. Decent, but hard to use.
5. 3/5. Good, but odd. As if the scizor is trying to urge to do something you'll regret.
 
RE: Scizor (Prime) from Undaunted (#84) [8/24]

1. I think Scizor has some great potential. Definetly the best prime in UD. Red Armor works great against DCE users, or anything that uses special energy. Metal Scissors in a nifty attack as well. Pairs well with Special Metal energy.

2. None as of yet, but the metagame hasn't been decided yet either. So it's anybody's game.

3. Obviously special metal energy, but pairs well with Skarmory UD as well.

4. 4/5, Definetly a usable card, a big contender in the new format.

5. 3/5. Not the prettiest thing I've ever seen, but it's cool.
 
RE: Scizor (Prime) from Undaunted (#84) [8/24]

1. How does the card stand on its own? Is it good, bad, or have potential? Is it worth being played?
Good it's fast and can be pretty tanky. It's body will make luxchomp players put a fire energy in their deck to 1HKO it with ERL.

2. What popular metagame decks is it used in?
will see a lot of play next season in it's own metagame deck.

3. What combos can you use it with? How so?
Can be used with skarmony UD to attach special metals.

4. Give it a rating, and explain why you have given it that rating. You can also rate the card by rating the thread itself (out of 5 stars).
3.5/5 It's fast strong can wall so many things in the format, but dialga G, blaziken FB and ERL can cause it alot of problems.

5. How's the artwork?
I like it it's probably my favorite prime art work so far.
 
RE: Scizor (Prime) from Undaunted (#84) [8/24]

1. How does the card stand on its own? Is it good, bad, or have potential?
Is it worth being played?

On its own, I'm not sure how well it is. It is the best of the Undaunted primes, but if it can't stand up to SP and it can't stand up to jumpluff then what CAN it stand up to?


2. What popular metagame decks is it used in?

None, yet. It may become a tech; but I doubt it.

3. What combos can you use it with? How so?

Skarmory Undaunted can attach special metals, but steelix (prime?) does the hit-hard-and-bulky-with-special-metals better.

4. Give it a rating, and explain why you have given it that rating. You can also rate the card by rating the thread itself (out of 5 stars).

2.5/5; because it is a pretty cool card, but not great.

5. How's the artwork?

Average.
 
RE: Scizor (Prime) from Undaunted (#84) [8/24]

1. How does the card stand on its own? Is it good, bad, or have potential? Is it worth being played?
With the amount of special energies going around ({C}{C}, {D} and {M}) its body is super useful. It's attack isn't half bad either becasue you're going to want to slam as many special {M} onto Scizor as possible so it's defense becomes it's offense! :)

2. What popular metagame decks is it used in?
None that I can think of...

3. What combos can you use it with? How so?
I think straight Scizor would work wonders but maybe you could tech in Skamory UD for energy searching or Sabeleye just for impersonating. You could also put in a Blaziken FB Lv X to counter any Dialga G Lv X.

4. Give it a rating, and explain why you have given it that rating. You can also rate the card by rating the thread itself (out of 5 stars).
When I first saw this card I wet myself but now I've come to realise how it's not that hard to get around it. Sure it slows decks down that use special energy but Garchomp/Luxray can snipe around it and Honchkrow SV can bring back more prize fodder. Also: Dialga G Lv X. So I give 3.5/5

5. How's the artwork?
I don't really like the Prime artwork, I think most of them are bad. Although I love the promo Feraligatr :p
 
RE: Scizor (Prime) from Undaunted (#84) [8/24]

Hyperion64 said:
1. Possibly. It can do heavy damage but is slow. And gardevoir can seriously hurt it.
2. None right now. I'm not sure how it could.
3. Leafeon lv x and this is a quick and dangerous setup. Skarmory ud, dialga pl (energy stream), and steelix prime might also work.
4. 2.5/5. Decent, but hard to use.
5. 3/5. Good, but odd. As if the scizor is trying to urge to do something you'll regret.

I disagree with pretty much everything here. Gardevior poses zero thread. The only one in the format, the platinum one can only do 40 damage because of resistance. And its not slow because it only needs two energy to do 70 damage. Sure, you can build up more, but you don't have to.
 
RE: Scizor (Prime) from Undaunted (#84) [8/24]

1. How does the card stand on its own? Is it good, bad, or have potential? Is it worth being played?

A very good card. Combine with some other cards, it could be fast and powerful. It will have potential maybe after some years because everybody is using luxray GL lX. I don t think every player will change this card to their main pokemon, maybe later.

2. What popular metagame decks is it used in?

I was thinking using it with gengar lX and a sniping pokemon and I will explain why.

3. What combos can you use it with? How so?

First, put 3-2 scizors and 2-2 tentacruels LA (with gengar and the sniper). Then, Start the duel by sniping your opponent s pokemon with special energies. Then, put tentacruel on active and use its first attack to attach special energies to your opponent pokemon. Then, put your prepared scizor on active and start owning your opponent. In the end, if your opponent is not dead yet, use gengar to finish them off becase it already has damage counters on every of his pokemon thanks to tentacruel and gengar s curse. Put an expert belt on one of those scizors.

4. Give it a rating, and explain why you have given it that rating. You can also rate the card by rating the thread itself (out of 5 stars).

I will give a 3 on 5 because its low hp, it metal type, which is not affective versus most of the pokemons and is resisted by luxray GL lX.
Weakness fire fails. But the rest is good, including its unbelieveble speed.
Come on, 110 for 2 energies.

5. How's the artwork?

Personally, I hate prime s artwork. You can only see its heads and hands. I prefer EX and Lv.X pictures, which shows how strong are they.
 
RE: Scizor (Prime) from Undaunted (#84) [8/24]

Guiding questions:
1. How does the card stand on its own? Is it good, bad, or have potential? Is it worth being played?
This is a great card in the current format. With its almost game-stopping ability, it is immune to many Pokemon and does awesome damage quickly.
2. What popular metagame decks is it used in?
As far as I know, there aren't any decks revolving around it- yet. I am pretty sure I will be seeing this card in the near future though.
3. What combos can you use it with? How so?
This card can be used with Electivire FB X to quickly add energies. If you use Steelix Prime and Flygon from Rising Rivals, you can sucsessfully stop your opponents from using special energies (very helpful now with DCE, new Dark/Steel Prime, a Steel LEGEND, and Ursaring Prime which is rather slow and useless without its DCE) or giving special conditions.
4. Give it a rating, and explain why you have given it that rating. You can also rate the card by rating the thread itself (out of 5 stars).
I say 4.5/5. I give it this because it can do a good amount of damage for 2 energies and an EBelt. Though it has pretty low Prime health with 120 max with EBelt.
5. How's the artwork?
I'm not very partial to the Prime work, as all they ever are are close-ups of the face and a random glint somewhere, but there have been good ones. Thing is, not this one. 3/5.
 
RE: Scizor (Prime) from Undaunted (#84) [8/24]

1. This cards will serve great in the format right now due to Red Armor!
2 Nothin' yet but that will defenitly change.
3. Ampharos Prime for damage with conductivity and more decks with DCE and Garchomp C it'll take more time and damage to set up
4. 4.5/5 due to Locking power.
5. 4/5 it's pretty cool seen better though like Ampharos or Feraligator.
 
RE: Scizor (Prime) from Undaunted (#84) [8/24]

Guiding questions:
1. How does the card stand on its own? Is it good, bad, or have potential? Is it worth being played?
2. What popular metagame decks is it used in?
3. What combos can you use it with? How so?
4. Give it a rating, and explain why you have given it that rating. You can also rate the card by rating the thread itself (out of 5 stars).
5. How's the artwork?

1.Probably an anti-SP Card... It has a potential if the opponent is an SP user.

2.This card is not yet popular among popular decks but this will be counted as an anti-SP decks.

3.Probably gonna use 4 Special Metal Energies plus Expert Belt to make a whopping 130 damage per turn

4. 4.5/5. Kinda good but not yet good in decks because there are kinda some trouble in adding {M} Energies.

5.I love Primes ^_^. Since I first saw primes, i quickly amazed by the spark on their artworks.
 
RE: Scizor (Prime) from Undaunted (#84) [8/24]

1. How does the card stand on its own? Is it good, bad, or have potential? Is it worth being played?
I think that this card on its own can do great, but there are a few good techs. I think it is a good card and I'll probably play it pretty soon.
2. What popular metagame decks is it used in?
None yet, but after fall BR's it will be know as a deck of it own.
3. What combos can you use it with? How so?
As peetzaman said before use Bronzong SF's Cycler to get two {M} and then use energy exchange unit to make some of them SP. {M}.
4. Give it a rating, and explain why you have given it that rating. You can also rate the card by rating the thread itself (out of 5 stars).
I'll give it a 4.5/5. It can totally protect itself from most sp and anything that uses {D} or {M} and it does 2 for 70 or 90 with e-belt while it could be protecting itself from 20 damage next turn. Overall a great card.
5. How's the artwork?
It's just like he's threatening to become a part of the meta 4/5!
 
RE: Scizor (Prime) from Undaunted (#84) [8/24]

1. Yes this card stands well on its own and it hase great potential and yes its worth being played.

2.I dont know im guessing in every meta game i dont see why this card would become unpopuler all of a sudden.

3.I can see a good combo with some thing that switches energys to another pokemon or it would be good with tenticruel from La.

4.I give this a 4.5 this card hase a great attack and a great pokebody but not good hp. Its the only pokemon prime i dont have :(

5.The art work is alright ive seen better.
 
RE: Scizor (Prime) from Undaunted (#84) [8/24]

1. How does the card stand on its own? Is it good, bad or has potential? Is it worth playing?

Scizor certainly can be playable on its own. Its Poke-body, Red Armor, prevents all damage done to it by Pokemon with special energies on them. This can be an annoying body for decks that rely on special energies, like Sablelock or Luxchomp, especially since cards like DCE and special darks are pretty popular right now. Its attack can also do 30 plus 20 for each {M} energy on it. With two metals, you can be hitting for 70, and if you can give it an Expert Belt, you could be hitting for 90 for two, or even 110 if you get three. Moreover, since it can abuse special metals, and it has some nice HP, it can be a good defensive Pokemon. Based off what I see, this card is certainly a good card on its own, has potential, and can be worth playing.

2. What popular metagame decks is it used in?

As of now, we don't see a lot of Scizor in today's format. However, pretty soon, I can imagine some Scizor Prime decks will emerge. Most likely, it will probably be straight Scizor, and these decks will try to take full of advantage of the card as much as it can (both the body and the attack).

3. What combos can you use it with? How so?

To me, Scizor is more like a card that really doesn't need much of a combo, as it seems to be perfectly fine when running it straight. Thus, it's probably going to be comboed with support Pokemon most of the time if that's the case. Sableye can help it give a jump start with Impersonate, Uxie could be for drawing so that Scizor Prime becomes a bit more consistant, and the recent Skarmory could work to get special metals onto the Scizor.

4. Give it a rating, and explain why you would give it that rating.

I would give Scizor a 4/5. Scizor is certainly a nice tank. It can use special metals to reduce damage onto it, and the attack can be hitting for some good damage. Its body is certainly annoying now that today's format seems to be relying a lot on special energies like DCE. Unfortunately, one problem for Scizor is Dialga G. Dialga seems to give it competition because it happens to be a better attacker, and Dialga locks the body. Since Dialga G will likely be used a lot in MD-on, Scizor might not be a tier 1 deck. Still, Scizor can be one nice card to use thus far, and it may likely see some play.

5. How's the artwork?

Now I have to say, that's one awesome artwork for a Scizor. Scizor literally looks like it has just slashed the card with its pinchers, and that certainly shows how strong it can be. Its eyes also look pretty daring too, almost as if it is daring you to challenge it into a tough battle.
 
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