Why do you guys think the areas will contain specific types? Any type can be in either the Central, the Coastal or the Mountain area, it depends on the habitat of the Pokémon, not its type...
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i agree with Metalizard
especially since the logic of "dragon-types can learn surf" making them coastal (Only water-related dragons- Dratini line, Kingdra, Palkia)
and then the grass on mountain thing... oh god i had no idea there was so much more grass on those mountains of rock than in fields
and flying types being coastal because of storms? so you're saying birds are the cause of hurricanes?
especially since the logic of "dragon-types can learn surf" making them coastal (Only water-related dragons- Dratini line, Kingdra, Palkia)
and then the grass on mountain thing... oh god i had no idea there was so much more grass on those mountains of rock than in fields
and flying types being coastal because of storms? so you're saying birds are the cause of hurricanes?
Seismitoad537 said:
Well according to PMD Red and Blue Friend Areas:
Water types are most common in Coastal and least in Central.
Flying types are most common in Central and least in Mountain.
Ice types are most common in Coastal and least in Central.
Dragon types are most common in Coastal and least in Central.
Bug types are most common in Central and least in Mountain.
Rock types are most common in Mountain and least in Central.
Psychic types are most common in Central and least in Mountain.
Ground types are most common in Central and least in Coastal.
Electric types are most common in Central and least in Coastal.
Fire types are most common in Mountain and least in Coastal.
Dark types are most common in Central and least in Coastal.
Grass types are most common in Central and least in Coastal.
Poison types are most common in Central and least in Coastal.
Normal types are most common in Central and least in Mountain.
Steel types are most common in Central and least in Mountain.
Fighting types are most common in Mountain and least in Central.
Ghost types are most common in Mountain and least in Central.
I'm counting Lakes, River, Beaches, Glacier, Isles and Seas as Coastal.
Plains, Ponds, Forests, Relics, Desert, Swamps and Urban as Central.
Volcanoes, Mountains, Caves and Sky as Mountain.
You don't get Normal, Steel, Fighting and Ghost in Coastal or Grass, Electric, Water and Ice in Mountain
Mitja's right. I mean, think of FRLG with the habitats.
dratini's family is a dragon, but will be seen in water, and gible's family is a dragon but will be found in deep dark caves
charmander's family is fire-type but will be found on mountains, vulpix and it's evo. are fire-type but found in forests and grasslands
etc
dratini's family is a dragon, but will be seen in water, and gible's family is a dragon but will be found in deep dark caves
charmander's family is fire-type but will be found on mountains, vulpix and it's evo. are fire-type but found in forests and grasslands
etc
that would make sense, since Pokemon seems to test stuff for the next generation
Friendship in yellow, used in GS
Time in GS, used in RS
Natures in RS, helped make Characteristics in DP
Wild double battles in DP (but first tested in RS), used in BW
Friendship in yellow, used in GS
Time in GS, used in RS
Natures in RS, helped make Characteristics in DP
Wild double battles in DP (but first tested in RS), used in BW
I've been thinking about what Pokemon are going to be in the Kalos Dex, but the fact that it's split into three has made things somewhat complicated as far as Dex speculation. So I went back through and tried to match some of the Pokemon I've speculated to some of the areas in the game. Here's what I've come up with so far with the Pokemon distribution (note that this is mainly past gen Pokemon, revealed 6th gen Pokemon, and speculated new evolutions, as I have little to no clue what kinds of new Pokemon could be added):
So with that, here's how I think they'll fit into the Kalos Dex:
Central Kalos:
Coastal Kalos:
Mountain Kalos:
Rt. 1:
6th gen regional rodent/Patrat
Some other unrevealed Com Mon
Rt. 2 (in between the second town and the forest):
Same two Pokemon from Rt. 1
Zigzagoon
Fletchling
Forest:
Zigzagoon
Fletchling
Regional bug
Budew
Illumise (X exclusive)/Volbeat (Y exclusive)
Pikachu
Rt. 3:
Rt. 1 Pokemon
Zigzagoon
Fletchling
Pidgey
Helioptile
Rt. 17 (the route leading east from the next city, optional at this point):
Fletchling
Pidgey
Ponyta
Rt. 4 (Garden Maze):
Rt. 1 Pokemon
Budew
Rt. 5 (route leading southwest from Lumiose City):
Gogoat baby or Gogoat (has that baby been confirmed?)
Tauros/Miltank baby
Ralts
Rt. 6 (route continuing east from the next city, leading up to the first cave):
Tall Grass:
Gogoat baby or Gogoat
Marill
Roselia
Tauros/Miltank baby
Ralts
Surfing:
Marill
Rt. 7 (tree lined route leading north from Rt. 6):
Roselia
Tauros/Miltank baby
Cave:
Woobat
Roggenrola
Sableye (X exclusive)/Mawile (Y exclusive)
Drillbur
Rt. 8 (beach route west of the cave):
Tall Grass:
Marill
Wingull
Dwebble
Tropius baby
Surfing:
Wingull
Frillish
Qwilfish
Finneon
Luvdisc
Rt. 9 (route between the beachside town and the Carnac Stones):
Wingull
Tropius baby
Carnac Stones:
Marill
Natu
Gothita (X exclusive)/Solosis (Y exclusive)
Kirlia
Next cave:
Woobat
Roggenrola
Drillbur
Mt. Saint Michel:
Frillish
Qwilfish
Luvdisc
Coastal Forest (leading east from Mt. Saint Michel):
Roselia
Shroomish
Karrablast
Shelmet
Tropius baby
Yanma
Rt. 10 (includes the beach at the river's mouth and the path leading east from there):
Tall Grass:
Marill
Wingull
Ponyta
Surfing:
Marill
Wingull
Frillish
Qwilfish
Rt. 21 (water route leading north from Rt. 10):
Wingull
Frillish
Qwilfish
Luvdisc
Finneon
Chinchou
Lapras
Rt. 22 (route continuing north from Rt. 21):
Wingull
Frillish
Qwilfish
Luvdisc
Finneon
Chinchou
Island Cave:
Woobat
Roggenrola
Sableye (X exclusive)/Mawile (Y exclusive)
Dwebble
Tynamo
Desert:
Sandile
Dwebble
Gligar
Skarmory
Rt. 11 (route northeast of Lumiose City):
6th gen rodent evo/Watchog
Linoone
Fletchling evo
Pidgeotto
Azumarill
Emolga
Five Ponds (marshy area north of Lumiose City):
Azumarill
Karrablast
Shelmet
Palpitoad
Yanma
Croagunk
Rt. 12 (route east of the Clocktower city)
Pidgeotto
Swablu
Emolga
Rt. 13 (one way route in between Rt. 11 and 12):
Gogoat
Swablu
Gligar
Vullaby (X exclusive)/Rufflet (Y exclusive)
Mienfoo
Skarmory
Emolga
Riolu
Rt. 14 (Snowy canyon route east of the Windmill City):
Swinub
Cryogonal
Sneasel
Rt. 15 (Snow route south of the town with the purple hand):
Swinub
Cryogonal
Snover
Sneasel
Rt. 18 (Riverside route south of the train station):
Gogoat
Swablu
Emolga
Surfing/Fishing:
Marill
Feebas
Dratini
Rt. 19 (route leading to the mine):
Gligar
Vullaby (X exclusive)/Rufflet (Y exclusive)
Emolga
Riolu
Mine:
Woobat
Boldore
Excadrill
Sableye (X exclusive)/Mawile (Y exclusive)
Sableye evo (X exclusive)/Mawile evo (Y exclusive)
Lairon
Rt. 20 (Snowy route leading to the giant mountain):
Swinub
Cubchoo
Cryogonal
Sneasel
Rt. 16 (Grassy cliffs east of the Pokemon League):
Gogoat
Roselia
Emolga
Yanma
Altaria
Victory Road:
Outside:
Gogoat
Vullaby (X exclusive)/Rufflet (Y exclusive)
Mandibuzz (X exclusive)/Braviary (Y exclusive)
Emolga
Skarmory
Altaria
Mienshao
Inside:
Woobat
Boldore
Excadrill
Sableye (X exclusive)/Mawile (Y exclusive)
Sableye evo (X exclusive)/Mawile evo (Y exclusive)
Druddigon
6th gen regional rodent/Patrat
Some other unrevealed Com Mon
Rt. 2 (in between the second town and the forest):
Same two Pokemon from Rt. 1
Zigzagoon
Fletchling
Forest:
Zigzagoon
Fletchling
Regional bug
Budew
Illumise (X exclusive)/Volbeat (Y exclusive)
Pikachu
Rt. 3:
Rt. 1 Pokemon
Zigzagoon
Fletchling
Pidgey
Helioptile
Rt. 17 (the route leading east from the next city, optional at this point):
Fletchling
Pidgey
Ponyta
Rt. 4 (Garden Maze):
Rt. 1 Pokemon
Budew
Rt. 5 (route leading southwest from Lumiose City):
Gogoat baby or Gogoat (has that baby been confirmed?)
Tauros/Miltank baby
Ralts
Rt. 6 (route continuing east from the next city, leading up to the first cave):
Tall Grass:
Gogoat baby or Gogoat
Marill
Roselia
Tauros/Miltank baby
Ralts
Surfing:
Marill
Rt. 7 (tree lined route leading north from Rt. 6):
Roselia
Tauros/Miltank baby
Cave:
Woobat
Roggenrola
Sableye (X exclusive)/Mawile (Y exclusive)
Drillbur
Rt. 8 (beach route west of the cave):
Tall Grass:
Marill
Wingull
Dwebble
Tropius baby
Surfing:
Wingull
Frillish
Qwilfish
Finneon
Luvdisc
Rt. 9 (route between the beachside town and the Carnac Stones):
Wingull
Tropius baby
Carnac Stones:
Marill
Natu
Gothita (X exclusive)/Solosis (Y exclusive)
Kirlia
Next cave:
Woobat
Roggenrola
Drillbur
Mt. Saint Michel:
Frillish
Qwilfish
Luvdisc
Coastal Forest (leading east from Mt. Saint Michel):
Roselia
Shroomish
Karrablast
Shelmet
Tropius baby
Yanma
Rt. 10 (includes the beach at the river's mouth and the path leading east from there):
Tall Grass:
Marill
Wingull
Ponyta
Surfing:
Marill
Wingull
Frillish
Qwilfish
Rt. 21 (water route leading north from Rt. 10):
Wingull
Frillish
Qwilfish
Luvdisc
Finneon
Chinchou
Lapras
Rt. 22 (route continuing north from Rt. 21):
Wingull
Frillish
Qwilfish
Luvdisc
Finneon
Chinchou
Island Cave:
Woobat
Roggenrola
Sableye (X exclusive)/Mawile (Y exclusive)
Dwebble
Tynamo
Desert:
Sandile
Dwebble
Gligar
Skarmory
Rt. 11 (route northeast of Lumiose City):
6th gen rodent evo/Watchog
Linoone
Fletchling evo
Pidgeotto
Azumarill
Emolga
Five Ponds (marshy area north of Lumiose City):
Azumarill
Karrablast
Shelmet
Palpitoad
Yanma
Croagunk
Rt. 12 (route east of the Clocktower city)
Pidgeotto
Swablu
Emolga
Rt. 13 (one way route in between Rt. 11 and 12):
Gogoat
Swablu
Gligar
Vullaby (X exclusive)/Rufflet (Y exclusive)
Mienfoo
Skarmory
Emolga
Riolu
Rt. 14 (Snowy canyon route east of the Windmill City):
Swinub
Cryogonal
Sneasel
Rt. 15 (Snow route south of the town with the purple hand):
Swinub
Cryogonal
Snover
Sneasel
Rt. 18 (Riverside route south of the train station):
Gogoat
Swablu
Emolga
Surfing/Fishing:
Marill
Feebas
Dratini
Rt. 19 (route leading to the mine):
Gligar
Vullaby (X exclusive)/Rufflet (Y exclusive)
Emolga
Riolu
Mine:
Woobat
Boldore
Excadrill
Sableye (X exclusive)/Mawile (Y exclusive)
Sableye evo (X exclusive)/Mawile evo (Y exclusive)
Lairon
Rt. 20 (Snowy route leading to the giant mountain):
Swinub
Cubchoo
Cryogonal
Sneasel
Rt. 16 (Grassy cliffs east of the Pokemon League):
Gogoat
Roselia
Emolga
Yanma
Altaria
Victory Road:
Outside:
Gogoat
Vullaby (X exclusive)/Rufflet (Y exclusive)
Mandibuzz (X exclusive)/Braviary (Y exclusive)
Emolga
Skarmory
Altaria
Mienshao
Inside:
Woobat
Boldore
Excadrill
Sableye (X exclusive)/Mawile (Y exclusive)
Sableye evo (X exclusive)/Mawile evo (Y exclusive)
Druddigon
So with that, here's how I think they'll fit into the Kalos Dex:
Central Kalos:
Chespin
Chespin evo
Chespin final form
Fennekin
Fennekin evo
Fennekin final form
Froakie
Froakie evo
Froakie final form
6th gen rodent/Patrat
6th gen rodent evo/Watchog
6th gen Com Mon
6th gen Com Mon evo
6th gen bug
6th gen bug evo
6th gen bug final form
Budew
Roselia
Roserade
Illumise
Illumise evo
Volbeat
Volbeat evo
Pichu
Pikachu
Raichu
Fletchling
Fletchling evo
Pidgey
Pidgeotto
Pidgeot
Helioptile
Helioptile evo
Gogoat
Tauros/Mitank baby
Tauros
Miltank
Ralts
Kirlia
Gardevoir
Gallade
Azurill
Marill
Azumarill
Emolga
Karrablast
Escavalier
Shelmet
Accelgor
Yanma
Yanmega
Tympole
Palpitoad
Seismitoad
Croagunk
Toxicroak
Chespin evo
Chespin final form
Fennekin
Fennekin evo
Fennekin final form
Froakie
Froakie evo
Froakie final form
6th gen rodent/Patrat
6th gen rodent evo/Watchog
6th gen Com Mon
6th gen Com Mon evo
6th gen bug
6th gen bug evo
6th gen bug final form
Budew
Roselia
Roserade
Illumise
Illumise evo
Volbeat
Volbeat evo
Pichu
Pikachu
Raichu
Fletchling
Fletchling evo
Pidgey
Pidgeotto
Pidgeot
Helioptile
Helioptile evo
Gogoat
Tauros/Mitank baby
Tauros
Miltank
Ralts
Kirlia
Gardevoir
Gallade
Azurill
Marill
Azumarill
Emolga
Karrablast
Escavalier
Shelmet
Accelgor
Yanma
Yanmega
Tympole
Palpitoad
Seismitoad
Croagunk
Toxicroak
Coastal Kalos:
Azurill
Marill
Azumarill
Budew
Roselia
Roserade
Woobat
Swoobat
Roggenrola
Boldore
Gigalith
Sableye
Sableye evo
Mawile
Mawile evo
Wingull
Pelipper
Dwebble
Crustle
Tropius baby
Tropius
Tropius evo
Frillish
Jellicent
Qwilfish
Qwilfish evo
Finneon
Lumineon
Luvdisc
Luvdisc evo
Natu
Xatu
Gothita
Gothorita
Gothitelle
Solosis
Duosion
Reuniclus
Ralts
Kirlia
Gardevoir
Gallade
Budew
Roselia
Roserade
Shroomish
Breloom
Karrablast
Escavalier
Shelmet
Accelgor
Yanma
Yanmega
Ponyta
Rapidash
Lapras
Chinchou
Lanturn
Lapras
Tynamo
Eelektrik
Eelektross
Sandile
Krokorok
Krookodile
Dwebble
Crustle
Gligar
Gliscor
Skarmory
Marill
Azumarill
Budew
Roselia
Roserade
Woobat
Swoobat
Roggenrola
Boldore
Gigalith
Sableye
Sableye evo
Mawile
Mawile evo
Wingull
Pelipper
Dwebble
Crustle
Tropius baby
Tropius
Tropius evo
Frillish
Jellicent
Qwilfish
Qwilfish evo
Finneon
Lumineon
Luvdisc
Luvdisc evo
Natu
Xatu
Gothita
Gothorita
Gothitelle
Solosis
Duosion
Reuniclus
Ralts
Kirlia
Gardevoir
Gallade
Budew
Roselia
Roserade
Shroomish
Breloom
Karrablast
Escavalier
Shelmet
Accelgor
Yanma
Yanmega
Ponyta
Rapidash
Lapras
Chinchou
Lanturn
Lapras
Tynamo
Eelektrik
Eelektross
Sandile
Krokorok
Krookodile
Dwebble
Crustle
Gligar
Gliscor
Skarmory
Mountain Kalos:
Fletchling
Fletchling evo
Pidgey
Pidgeotto
Pidgeot
Ponyta
Rapidash
Gogoat
Pancham
Pancham evo
Emolga
Swablu
Altaria
Gligar
Gliscor
Vullaby
Mandibuzz
Rufflet
Braviary
Mienfoo
Mienshao
Riolu
Lucario
Swinub
Piloswine
Mamoswine
Cryogonal
Sneasel
Weavile
Snover
Abomasnow
Cubchoo
Beartic
Azurill
Marill
Azumarill
Woobat
Swoobat
Roggenrola
Boldore
Gigalith
Drillbur
Excadrill
Sableye
Sableye evo
Mawile
Mawile evo
Aron
Lairon
Aggron
Feebas
Milotic
Dratini
Dragonair
Dragonite
Budew
Roselia
Roserade
Druddigon
Yanma
Yanmega
Skarmory
Fletchling evo
Pidgey
Pidgeotto
Pidgeot
Ponyta
Rapidash
Gogoat
Pancham
Pancham evo
Emolga
Swablu
Altaria
Gligar
Gliscor
Vullaby
Mandibuzz
Rufflet
Braviary
Mienfoo
Mienshao
Riolu
Lucario
Swinub
Piloswine
Mamoswine
Cryogonal
Sneasel
Weavile
Snover
Abomasnow
Cubchoo
Beartic
Azurill
Marill
Azumarill
Woobat
Swoobat
Roggenrola
Boldore
Gigalith
Drillbur
Excadrill
Sableye
Sableye evo
Mawile
Mawile evo
Aron
Lairon
Aggron
Feebas
Milotic
Dratini
Dragonair
Dragonite
Budew
Roselia
Roserade
Druddigon
Yanma
Yanmega
Skarmory
@Bolt Helioptile was level 20 in the trailer so I would expect Helioptile to be in route 5 or 6. I would expect that the Pokemon cut in half (cough* Pidgey* cough) will be found in route 2 with Fletchling (and Zigzagoon). I also noticed that Pidgeotto was found in route 11 and I would believe that there would be higher level Pokemon.
Flygon2071 said:
That doesn't really prove much. The battles could be staged for all we know.
And I would expect Lv. 20 Pokemon to start showing up around Rt. 7 or 8.
Pokequaza said:
None of us know exactly how the dex will handle Pokemon that show up in different areas. I think that Pokemon could show up in different subdexes, though.
FloodBadge said:
No I'm saying that wind is. Wind and flying are very similar...therefore my point.
I'm assuming that there will be a standard pokedex numbering system like normal and then maybe a sub-pokedex type numbering for pokemon of different areas of the region. However like earlier mentioned it could just be a way to break it down into habitats.
I also agree with Metalizard that pokemon are not placed based (by location) on type, but by what would best suit them as creatures naturally. There will probably be pokemon that are not specific to just one location, just like zubat can be caught in many caves across the region and magikarp in many waters north and south.
Also Floodbadge, I feel the need to disagree about your "testing" hypothesis. I think what you're looking at as GF testing their audience is actually them just evolving with the generations and consoles by providing more asthetic and mechanical features. Everyone loves the pokemon companion in HG/SS, but they only give us that option in those games (not including yellow). It would also just seem more natural to provide more features to breathe life into the virtual universe.
I also agree with Metalizard that pokemon are not placed based (by location) on type, but by what would best suit them as creatures naturally. There will probably be pokemon that are not specific to just one location, just like zubat can be caught in many caves across the region and magikarp in many waters north and south.
Also Floodbadge, I feel the need to disagree about your "testing" hypothesis. I think what you're looking at as GF testing their audience is actually them just evolving with the generations and consoles by providing more asthetic and mechanical features. Everyone loves the pokemon companion in HG/SS, but they only give us that option in those games (not including yellow). It would also just seem more natural to provide more features to breathe life into the virtual universe.
Seismitoad537 said:
flying animals and wind aren't similar. one of them is the force of moving air, and the other is just a creature flying through the air. that's like saying boats and water are very similar
FloodBadge said:
They're similar enough that nearly all wind-based Pokémon moves are Flying-type, and that whenever anyone suggests adding a Wind type it gets shouted down immediately because it would be too similar to Flying, and that the only pure Flying-type in existence right now is a wind spirit.
In the real world, that argument kind of makes sense, but with Pokémon logic, you kinda just have to roll with it.
I don't know about you, but I, personally, think that the split is because X and Y will have a LOT of Pokés to catch, so much that it needs to be split for, don't know, easier navigation?
http://medialib.officialnintendomagazine.co.uk/screens/dir_553/image_55385_thumb_wide930.jpg
I'm seeing a space, what we assume is zigzagoon, Fletchling and 2 spaces, then something that looks blueish [could be the tint, though] and 2 more spaces, and then another mystery thing. So unless the 'blueish thing' has a prevo, Fletchling likely has a 3 stage line.
I'm seeing a space, what we assume is zigzagoon, Fletchling and 2 spaces, then something that looks blueish [could be the tint, though] and 2 more spaces, and then another mystery thing. So unless the 'blueish thing' has a prevo, Fletchling likely has a 3 stage line.
