On top of everything for its ability, you need 5 energy in the discard already. Oh, and it's weak to the current bdif.
SM7 'Celestial Storm' Revealed!
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On top of everything for its ability, you need 5 energy in the discard already. Oh, and it's weak to the current bdif.
Jeez, these cards suck ass. Stakataka is cute, but eh.
This set is looking to be shit. I'll buy what few singles are actually playable.
This set is looking to be shit. I'll buy what few singles are actually playable.
I think Electrode GX is being underrated here for sure. If you can get the energies in the discard, then it's so good in non-GX decks that need the acceleration. Sure you give up 2 prizes, but then your opponent still has to knock out 4 one prize Pokemon to win.
If Stakataka's attack did 130 instead of 120 it would be nuts. The card is still very good though in Beast Box or as it's own deck with new Celesteela and Baby Dusk Mane's.
If Stakataka's attack did 130 instead of 120 it would be nuts. The card is still very good though in Beast Box or as it's own deck with new Celesteela and Baby Dusk Mane's.
Or you could not play the card and your opponent will still have 6 one prize pokemon to knockout to win.
Probably what I'll do as well. Beast Ball is cool, and I'll buy Stakataka even though I don't play steel simply because I like the character.
Just because these cards don't look all that great, doesn't mean the entire set is going to suck. I looked at both japanese sets and saw the cards to be good. After rotation; which is Sun&Moon and beyond; i believe that the cards in celestial storm are going to be very helpful. And the mini set that's coming up as well.
What by definition is an “Ultra Beast Card”. Are there ultra beast items and supporters? Does beast energy and beast ring count?
Ultra Beast card should just be the Ultra Beast Pokémon, i.e. the regular and the GX Ultra Beasts
I know. The original Japanese translation said other-wise though
The only card that is going to see serious play is Beast Ball. You know, because Buzzwole was already the BDIF, got more help in Forbidden Light (baby buzz + beast ring + beast energy), and apparently needed EVEN MORE HELP.
Why would Buzzwole even play Beast Ball? Nest Ball already exists, which is better. Who cares if you prize one, since you'll likely draw into it while running over your opponent with the 2-3 others that you do have.
I just want to point out to everyone that all the way back in 2005, for the world championships google Cawthorn used a Dark Tyranitar deck with Electrode ex and got 2nd place that year. That electrode ex card is the original version of the reprint we are getting in this new set as a GX card. same artwork and ability
His deck relied on a special energy card called Scramble energy. It could only be attached to an evolved pokemon, and only provided 1 colourless energy. but if you had more prize cards than your opponent, it provided every type of energy but provided only 3 in any combination at a time. Basically a triple version of Counter Energy today
His deck list included plenty of ways to get his energy into the discard pile. A Magmar card was the prefered way. The one from EX Team Rocket Returns had an attack for 1 colourless energy that said discard up to 2 energy from your hand and if you do, draw 2 cards for each energy discarded in this way. He had a few copies of TV reporter. TV reporter is coming out as a reprint in this next set.
Knowing google Cawthorn, whos been known for crazy decks over the years, (look no further than his "The Truth" deck back in 2011) it should come as no surprise that he might come up with deck for worlds that could involve this Electrode GX card, and Counter Energy.
EDIT: Apparently Pokebeach doesn't like the inclusion of real people's names in their posts and has censored me At least the guys surname wasn't censored.
His deck relied on a special energy card called Scramble energy. It could only be attached to an evolved pokemon, and only provided 1 colourless energy. but if you had more prize cards than your opponent, it provided every type of energy but provided only 3 in any combination at a time. Basically a triple version of Counter Energy today
His deck list included plenty of ways to get his energy into the discard pile. A Magmar card was the prefered way. The one from EX Team Rocket Returns had an attack for 1 colourless energy that said discard up to 2 energy from your hand and if you do, draw 2 cards for each energy discarded in this way. He had a few copies of TV reporter. TV reporter is coming out as a reprint in this next set.
Knowing google Cawthorn, whos been known for crazy decks over the years, (look no further than his "The Truth" deck back in 2011) it should come as no surprise that he might come up with deck for worlds that could involve this Electrode GX card, and Counter Energy.
EDIT: Apparently Pokebeach doesn't like the inclusion of real people's names in their posts and has censored me
At least the guys surname wasn't censored.
Not really. Most of the set sucks absolute ass. Even the good cards likely won't have an impact on the meta. Altaria GX, probably. The rest of the GXs are crap.
No, the original card in japanese does say to shuffle them. Last 2 sentences of the card are read as "place all the prizes you saw, as well as any card you exchanged, face down and shuffle them. Then set them down as prizes."
No, it says, according to Pokebeach and many other translations I've seen, "Look at your face-down Prize cards. You may choose 1 Ultra Beast you find there, reveal it, and put it into your hand. If you do, shuffle this Beast Ball into your remaining Prize cards and put them back face down."
Being a player in Japan, and not posting my reply until I looked at the physical Beast Ball card that I possess, I am confident that the translation I gave is accurate. Granted, the wording couldve been better, but all the key parts of information were stated.
Hmm... So that card numbering is very interesting!
On last expansion, I picked up a small hobby: Trying to estimate the setlist order, based on official cards being revealed in english. At least for the most part, the cards in our sets come from 3 places:
The second detail I found so far, knowing Electrode-GX's position, is that we may not get some of the cards in SM6a and SM7. Considering Voltorb as card #47 (for obvious reasons), there's 46 slots for all Grass, Fire and Water Pokémon in the set; however, those two sets contain 52 Pokémon Cards of said three types. So 6 wouldn't make the cut. My personal speculation would be for non Hoenn-native cards to be cut, and potentially moved to a future set (either Dragon Majesty, or our SM8 set). Another possibility is for some of the several repeating starters to be cut (like Torchic, which has 3 cards between the two JP sets!)
May post again if I see anything else, but that's what I gathered so far. Hopefully we get more cards soon, that help clarify this a bit better!
On last expansion, I picked up a small hobby: Trying to estimate the setlist order, based on official cards being revealed in english. At least for the most part, the cards in our sets come from 3 places:
- The main Japanese Set (In this case, SM7)
- Depending on the set, probably a miniset released before the one just mentioned (Here, it'd be "Champion Road" or SM6a)
- Eventual Japanese Promos that are included in our set (As Beast Ball in this case).
- Heatran (167/SM-P): A CoroCoro promo from the February 2018 issue. Different card from the UPR Metal Heatran.
- Solgaleo (067/SM-P): A winner card for "Pokémon Card Festa 2017". The one with the ability that gives itself no Weakness when it has any Metal Energy attached.
The second detail I found so far, knowing Electrode-GX's position, is that we may not get some of the cards in SM6a and SM7. Considering Voltorb as card #47 (for obvious reasons), there's 46 slots for all Grass, Fire and Water Pokémon in the set; however, those two sets contain 52 Pokémon Cards of said three types. So 6 wouldn't make the cut. My personal speculation would be for non Hoenn-native cards to be cut, and potentially moved to a future set (either Dragon Majesty, or our SM8 set). Another possibility is for some of the several repeating starters to be cut (like Torchic, which has 3 cards between the two JP sets!)
May post again if I see anything else, but that's what I gathered so far. Hopefully we get more cards soon, that help clarify this a bit better!
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Really don't know how I feel about these cards.
I feel like Electrode GX is actually just pointless in standard format. If it could attach energy to GX/EX Pokemon it would have uses, but it doesn't and I can't think of any non-GX attacking decks in standard format that would ever consider this. Not sure about expanded.
Stakataka GX is cheeky, but you really don't have the bench space in UB decks, I feel. Outside of Buzzwole GX, most of them don't even have room for Zoroark GX. I feel that it would have to be a deck of its own running 4 copies and hoping to have all 4 out.
I don't fully understand the ruling of Jirachi Prism Star. If your opponent plays Switch, would the new switched in Pokemon get KO'd? If Jirachi Prism is KO'd after it goes to sleep, does the defending Pokemon still get KO'd anyway? Either way, I don't know if I like 3 energy for that attack. It's just a heavy energy investment away from your main attackers.
Beast Ball is an okay 1-2 of card in non-Dragon/Psychic UB decks that don't have a much better search engine in the form of Mysterious Treasure. I can't see anyone bothering to play it in UNGX outside of being scared of bad prizes.
I feel like Electrode GX is actually just pointless in standard format. If it could attach energy to GX/EX Pokemon it would have uses, but it doesn't and I can't think of any non-GX attacking decks in standard format that would ever consider this. Not sure about expanded.
Stakataka GX is cheeky, but you really don't have the bench space in UB decks, I feel. Outside of Buzzwole GX, most of them don't even have room for Zoroark GX. I feel that it would have to be a deck of its own running 4 copies and hoping to have all 4 out.
I don't fully understand the ruling of Jirachi Prism Star. If your opponent plays Switch, would the new switched in Pokemon get KO'd? If Jirachi Prism is KO'd after it goes to sleep, does the defending Pokemon still get KO'd anyway? Either way, I don't know if I like 3 energy for that attack. It's just a heavy energy investment away from your main attackers.
Beast Ball is an okay 1-2 of card in non-Dragon/Psychic UB decks that don't have a much better search engine in the form of Mysterious Treasure. I can't see anyone bothering to play it in UNGX outside of being scared of bad prizes.