Strategists Wanted! Apply Here!

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Like who? The more experienced players have either been moded, have quit the beach, or don't want anything to do with being a strategist. We have ourselves a nice core group of people at the beggining of the thread and as we progressed the applications have become more and more ridiculous. I don't mean to be rude but I think Holy Star should make his descisions, that way the new people showing up and trying out will stop. That or the criteria should be changed to have a minimum post count. If you can count your posts on your fingers and toes, don't apply. That is my opinion.
 
DawnOfXatu said:
Like who? The more experienced players have either been moded, have quit the beach, or don't want anything to do with being a strategist. We have ourselves a nice core group of people at the beggining of the thread and as we progressed the applications have become more and more ridiculous. I don't mean to be rude but I think Holy Star should make his descisions, that way the new people showing up and trying out will stop. That or the criteria should be changed to have a minimum post count. If you can count your posts on your fingers and toes, don't apply. That is my opinion.
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Just because someone hasn't posted here doesn't mean they aren't qualified. If they're willing to devote their time and efforts to help your community, what difference does it make? I've made it clear in my application to Holy Star that I've a strong body of work outside of the Pokebeach forums. Judging someone just because they're new to /your/ forum is discriminatory. Maybe there wasn't a compelling reason to join this forum until now?

Members who have posted applications are at least familiar with the Pokebeach website, if not the forums. If WPM didn't want applicants from all Pokemon communities he wouldn't have posted it as a front-page story.

Just my two cents.
 
Yes, and we fully understand what you're saying, but the point is the staff haven't gotten to know you. We have no sense of your skill towards the TCG, or anything else. I understand your thinking, but I understand what Dawn of Xatu is saying better, it makes more sense.
 
Who's to say? I met WPM at Worlds in Anaheim two years ago and he borrowed some cards off of me while waiting in line at the Grinder. I've been a frequent poster on the PokeGym and it isn't hard to search out my history.

I can't speak for everyone else, but I have connections with several premier players in the Midwest and elsewhere. I'm certainly not going to post my accomplishments here because I feel it's unnecessary to have anyone but Holy Star judge my abilities.

If they let me on as a strategist and decide they don't like what I produce, then they could simply just let me go. Being a professional writer, I know if what I'm putting out isn't fit to print then I'm going to be out of the job.

Everyone has to start somewhere, that's all I'm saying.
 
Your case is that you already have credibility with WPM and PokeBeach. Most "Rookies" don't. If we make a mistake and let someone write a horrible article, who's fault is it?
 
I'm not pointing fingers at you, you seem like a great candidate, I'm talking about the users that post the application then expect to become some great awesome Deck-Making legend, to not get their hopes up.
 
I didn't make my post directed at you personally. I don't know you and therefore I can't judge you. It is fully HS's opinion if you are qualified, but if you go back and look at some of the other recent posts, they don't look qualified, at all. So you can see if I would be wary of newer members trying to sign up, as there aren't too many new posters these days who are of importance among other forums.

Also, joining only to try out for a strategist position shows that your dedication for the site may not be too strong. What happens when the group eventually disbands? Will you just quit the site? Too many problems arise when a person only wants the title. The strategists have always been willing to help out smaller decks, and give a person advice, and that is why they were strategists.

Also I realize that everyone has to start somewhere, but even if I was someone who is great for the program and I would make a prefect addition, I wouldn't jump straight for a postition of prestige. So as you can see, although you may be a perfect fit in here, I can't tell and therefore am forced to group you with other newer players. The system has its flaws, but it is better than thinking that each new member may be a World Champ.

So in conclusion, I don't have anything personally against you, that little bit that you gave us above is impressive alone. Yet you can't blame me for being slightly biased against newer members. They normally either up their post count and work their way to importance, or they post a couple of times and disappear.
 
Hey guys, just calm down and let the dude make his choice without you guys interfering.

I know you all contribute great amounts, so stop fighting like a bunch of 5 year olds for a cookie.

It's just making you all look bad.
 
I'm a new member, I applied.

But I still have a vast knowledge of the game, deckbuilding and strategy. I just didn't bother joining because there was pathetic arguments like these that drove me away.

Enough to make you happy?
 
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We're not, it seems silly that a new member would apply. End of discussion.
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Are you saying new members SHOULDN'T apply, because they might not be chosen as strategists? Maybe... just maybe... and this is way out there, but maybe they want to get practice at this. You know, sending in their application, working on it for several minutes or several hours. Heck, it was just "fate" that I joined but two weeks before strat applications. I tried, and failed, but it made me want to try again next time. Because I was a new members and wanted to become a strategist, it made me stay on beach for over a year and now I like to think I'm pretty well known.

Basically, what I'm saying is, that by applying for a strategist, new members might want to stay longer and try again, thus making them better known.

But, er, yeah. Good luck, everyone.
 
New members have the right to apply just as we do, anyone can win.
Like Galefail said it will keep good members here longer.
So lets not start flaming this thread like every other.:(

Good Luck to all.
 
What if you were a person who got shot out because of a "stupid" post and got discouraged to post again.
What if that same person decided to just stay behind the scenes and listen to everyone else while improving themselves as a player.
What if that same person ended up becoming National Champion of their country and did not want to say anything about.
What if that same person is currently top 10 in the world and still does not post.
What if this person was dedicated to four different leagues a week where this person host their own from 10 in the morning to 6 at night.

If this person only holds 4 post and is still labeled a rookie, is it fair to say that this person is not qualified?

What if only now this person wants to finally reveal their secrets of the game to the rest of the community and finally gained the confidence to post again without facing rejection. Will that person be allowed?

I think that if a Rookie exceeds the criteria, he/she should be more than welcome into the program regardless of their status on these forums.
 
DawnOfXatu said:
Like who? The more experienced players have either been moded, have quit the beach, or don't want anything to do with being a strategist. We have ourselves a nice core group of people at the beggining of the thread and as we progressed the applications have become more and more ridiculous. I don't mean to be rude but I think Holy Star should make his descisions, that way the new people showing up and trying out will stop. That or the criteria should be changed to have a minimum post count. If you can count your posts on your fingers and toes, don't apply. That is my opinion.
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I laugh at this post. I was a member since May of 2006. I did go on a hiatus a few times due to reality-stops, or 'challenges' if you will. I have not been active for about 6 months to a year now. Doesn't mean I've never learned anything. Just clearing that up just in case you haven't 'heard' of me from the senior members who have.

Anyway, I'll comment on what you said based on what I think, based on my experience as a Strategist here in the past.

My first comment will be on the first bolded line of words I have picked out. You're missing that you still have plenty of experienced members here on Pokebeach. I see Krucifer and zwelgberg applying again, since our last time working together. I don't see anything wrong with Mods being a Strategist also - Charizard has done it, I don't see why the others can't, unless they are not interested. Yes, we do have some people who left, such as Kaito, a previous Malaysian member and Strategist, as well as Charizard himself.

Now, on the second bolded line of words, what's wrong with new members applying? I do see what the previous poster, omega_prime, is trying to prove. However, I don't see anything wrong with new members applying. Does that mean that a new member, joining just 2 minutes before reading this thread, can't apply? Is that what you mean? You need a 'long experience' as a member on Pokebeach to apply? You must be joking.

As for the last line I've bolded, no, just no. Period. The same thing applies as what I've said above. Must it be that a member with 0 posts have no experience in TCG whatsoever? No, it doesn't. What, you want to throw away new talent (if there is any) in being a Strategist, just because he doesn't post often? It's really a funny thing, to pick based on what they have on the forums than what they have in real life.

Anyway, don't get me wrong, I'm not applying, just giving my 2 cents as a former Strategist.[/b][/i]
 
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