Super Smash Bros. 3DS/Wii U

I wouldn't rush to believe it. Take everything posted on 4chan with a grain of salt... or two... or three.
There are problems with the quality, but then again it could be real... we just have to wait and see.
 
Btw, there was another piece of information along with the leak saying there will be DLC characters. Iirc, Ice Climbers, Snake, and Lucas were three of the five listed. This actually matches the empty space on the leaked roster, which has room for five more spots.

Momaster12 said:
Some of my doubts come from the arrangement of these characters. In previous games, the characters from the same series would be grouped together, but here they are scattered.

I'm not exactly certain, but I distinctly remember characters being out of place in previous Smash games until you fully complete the roster. Once the roster is completed, characters are put in place by series. I think this is done because there's never a distinct way to unlock characters by order. so it's better to just throw them in randomly first no matter what series they're from.

Momaster12 said:
Secondly, I highly doubt Ganandorf's pose would look like that. It is too dark

>prince of darkness
>too dark

u wot m8

King Xerneas said:
The graphical errors really make me skeptical about the first screenshot (Wario's missing pupil and G&W hand)

You're looking at it wrong. Wario's shoulder, which is right next to G&W's hand, is just really dark. This makes it appear that G&W's hand is overlapping, but really it's just two dark areas meeting each other. If you look closely, you'll even notice G&W has a white border around his body, which is not in any of Wario's square.

Also, Wario's eye is just really close to his nose.

Anyways, this leak is confirmed for me after the recently leaked Famitsu magazine. The magazine leak showcases the Tomodachi Life stage and rooms that have not been shown in any other media. Interestingly, one of the rooms featured in Famitsu is actually also shown in the leaked stage selection screen.

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Here's what the rosters do when they're not complete.
 
I have my doubts, but I would have almost no complaints if this were real. Dr. Mario would instantly trump Mega Man as my new day one main.
 
PG24 said:
>prince of darkness
>too dark

u wot m8

How is that relevant? Besides, I think you know what I meant. You can hardly see his face in that picture. However, after looking through the thread on Smashboards, it seems as though there are other people leaking similar information. Including a better render of Ganondorf.

Here's a compilation posted on that thread featuring 3 different leakers. Now some of this may have changed since I'm only caught up to page 53/80 in the thread so something may have come up. If anything big does come up I'll come back and keep this thread updated.
Now some have made some convincing arguments about these leaks and their legitimacy. For example, leaker 3 (the least convincing one) seems to have flaws in some the pics. For one, the in-battle screen featuring Shulk appears to be using a render based on Ike's F-Tilt in Brawl. Secondly, in the bottom right corner of one of the pics is the word "Disablad" instead of "Disabled" as other leaks have corrected. Leaker 1's first pic listed here has levels above the Player's character render. This may be an actual thing because in the Soul Caliber games, iirc, there is a mode that features levels for the characters. As I'm sure we all now, the creators of Soul Caliber had a hand in making this game so that is not totally out of the water.

That's all I'm gonna say here. You can follow the thread that I was talking about here.
 
Being perfectly honest, I would love the duck hunt dog. I also cant help but notice, meta knights wings seem pretty dark compared to the official art (Dark in leak, light in official). Something tells me that its real, and I hope it is. But something tells me its fake...
 
King Xerneas said:
If this leak turns out to be true, I'm really wondering how the hell is Duck Hunt Dog gonna play.

You use the wiimote (crossbow attachment encouraged, but optional) to aim and fire at other players on the screen while the dog itself does nothing except occasionally run off screen to collect "fallen" opponents. The dog also laughs at you if you aim and miss.
 
PG24's post pretty much suns up why this looks legit to me. If the DLC isn't free, then I'll make Sakurai Sakur-die!

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http://s29.postimg.org/jo56xcy93/leakers.jpg - first image on the left on the second row

From left to right, top to bottom:

Mario, Luigi, Peach, Bowser, Yoshi, Rosalina, Bowser Jr., Wario, G&W
DK, Diddy, Link, Zelda, Sheik, Ganondorf, Toon Link, Samus, ZSS
Pit, Palutena, Marth, Ike, Robin, Kirby, Dedede, Meta Knight, Little Mac
Fox, Falco, Pikachu, Charizard, Lucario, Jigglypuff, Greninja, Duck Hunt, R.O.B.
Ness, Captain Falcon, Villager, Olimar, Wii Fit Trainer, Dr. Mario, Dark Pit, Lucina
Shulk, Pac-Man, Mega Man, Sonic, Random

Total: 48, 49 if you include Mii Fighters

It also claims that Lucas, Wolf, Snake, ICs, and Chorus Men are DLC characters, bringing the total up to 53 (54).
 
Why is there one less Pokémon than in Brawl? Also, why is there no Grass Starter representative? At least make it DLC. :/
 
I'm willing to accept the leak (I was doubtful at first, but it seems like it's been able to withstand a lot of scrutiny), but I have a hard time believing that's the final roster. There's no reason for Shulk to be on the bottom row while there's still a free spot in the second row. I know DLC is supposed to fill up the gaps, but that just seems ugly for a release date roster.

And I honestly wonder how Sakurai would justify not bringing back Mewtwo again. It's consistently been one of the most requested characters, it has an established moveset and it the closest thing Pokémon has to an official villain.

That being said, I do look forward to playing as doc again, and Duck Hunt Dog seems like it should be a very interesting character. And Jiggly's back, which is honestly all I care about, so I'm all in favour of this leak.
 
Why aren't Sceptile/Torterra/Meganium/Serperior in NSSB? I get having starters from different Generations, but we also need a FE Grass Starter, as without one, it just feels incomplete.
 
Blob55 said:
Why aren't Sceptile/Torterra/Meganium/Serperior in NSSB? I get having starters from different Generations, but we also need a FE Grass Starter, as without one, it just feels incomplete.

Why? Brawl was the only one to have three starters in the form of Pokémon Trainer. There is no need to make that a trend in future games. Pokémon already has a lot of reps (they even have more "reps" in the form of Poké Balls!) and will probably have more (including Poké Balls!) as the series progresses. It doesn't really seem fair for there to be so many Pokémon while other series, with plenty of characters to choose from, are being left out and even having characters cut like Star Fox and Earthbound. Besides, the only other grass starter that would make sense would be Sceptile. I was actually surprised how Ivysaur was handled so I'm sure it would be kind of a challenge so use the other quadruped grass starters without copying moves from Ivysaur. I'm not saying it's impossible, or more Pokémon reps would suck, I'm just saying, it really is not necessary and kinda unfair.
 
Momaster12 said:
Blob55 said:
Why aren't Sceptile/Torterra/Meganium/Serperior in NSSB? I get having starters from different Generations, but we also need a FE Grass Starter, as without one, it just feels incomplete.

Why? Brawl was the only one to have three starters in the form of Pokémon Trainer. There is no need to make that a trend in future games. Pokémon already has a lot of reps (they even have more "reps" in the form of Poké Balls!) and will probably have more (including Poké Balls!) as the series progresses. It doesn't really seem fair for there to be so many Pokémon while other series, with plenty of characters to choose from, are being left out and even having characters cut like Star Fox and Earthbound. Besides, the only other grass starter that would make sense would be Sceptile. I was actually surprised how Ivysaur was handled so I'm sure it would be kind of a challenge so use the other quadruped grass starters without copying moves from Ivysaur. I'm not saying it's impossible, or more Pokémon reps would suck, I'm just saying, it really is not necessary and kinda unfair.

Well it's also unfair that Mario, Zelda and for some reason Fire Emblem have the same amount of/more characters than in Brawl.

Mario has 9 representatives (10 if you count Donkey Kong), Zelda has 5 and FE has double of what they got last time, with 4. Do you really think it's such a stretch for Pokémon to have 6 characters, yet Mario is allowed to have 9/10? I get what you're saying about EB and SF having less characters until DLC comes out, but do we really need the Wii Fit Trainer, Dr. Mario and the Miis?

BTW, who is that Blonde guy next to Pac-Man and who/what is Chorus Men?
 
Blob55 said:
Well it's also unfair that Mario, Zelda and for some reason Fire Emblem have the same amount of/more characters than in Brawl.

Mario has 9 representatives (10 if you count Donkey Kong), Zelda has 5 and FE has double of what they got last time, with 4. Do you really think it's such a stretch for Pokémon to have 6 characters, yet Mario is allowed to have 9/10? I get what you're saying about EB and SF having less characters until DLC comes out, but do we really need the Wii Fit Trainer, Dr. Mario and the Miis?

So why should Pokémon have more reps then? How would it be justified with all that you said? If there seems to be a problem with the amount of reps a series has and does not have, why should Pokémon be added to the problem? I think a good max for a series should be 5-6 reps. Which I think most would agree is reasonable. A few protagonists, a few antagonists, (or all protagonists even) and a series should be properly represented in the series. Now the Mario series does have a good amount of reps, but is that really a surprise? There are a lot of iconic characters from that series and I believe one way or another, those iconic characters would be added. It would be strange that Nintendo's biggest franchise only had Mario and Luigi. I'm not saying 9 reps for a series is necessarily a good thing, but I think Mario has a good argument for that. Another thing, having another rep for Pokémon would be fine, just as long as no more than 5 or 6 are present. The future would only bring more and more viable characters to the series and therefore possible reps for Smash. Then reps from previous Smash games would have to come back, fans would get butthurt that their favorite character hasn't returned so that character may be brought back, next thing you know Pokénon has 9 reps. Also, if there were to be another Pokémon rep, I don't think many of the other grass starters would be more fitting than other Pokémon, like fricken Mewtwo. And one last thing, there is absolutely nothing wrong with WFT and Miis. They are new characters to add more diversity to the selection. Dr. Mario on the other hand shoulda been an alt.

Blob55 said:
BTW, who is that Blonde guy next to Pac-Man and who/what is Chorus Men?
The Blonde guy is Shulk, the main protagonist from Xenoblade Chronicles. Chorus Men are characters from a mini-game in Rhythm Heaven.
 
Momaster12 said:
Blob55 said:
Well it's also unfair that Mario, Zelda and for some reason Fire Emblem have the same amount of/more characters than in Brawl.

Mario has 9 representatives (10 if you count Donkey Kong), Zelda has 5 and FE has double of what they got last time, with 4. Do you really think it's such a stretch for Pokémon to have 6 characters, yet Mario is allowed to have 9/10? I get what you're saying about EB and SF having less characters until DLC comes out, but do we really need the Wii Fit Trainer, Dr. Mario and the Miis?

So why should Pokémon have more reps then? How would it be justified with all that you said? If there seems to be a problem with the amount of reps a series has and does not have, why should Pokémon be added to the problem? I think a good max for a series should be 5-6 reps. Which I think most would agree is reasonable. A few protagonists, a few antagonists, (or all protagonists even) and a series should be properly represented in the series. Now the Mario series does have a good amount of reps, but is that really a surprise? There are a lot of iconic characters from that series and I believe one way or another, those iconic characters would be added. It would be strange that Nintendo's biggest franchise only had Mario and Luigi. I'm not saying 9 reps for a series is necessarily a good thing, but I think Mario has a good argument for that. Another thing, having another rep for Pokémon would be fine, just as long as no more than 5 or 6 are present. The future would only bring more and more viable characters to the series and therefore possible reps for Smash. Then reps from previous Smash games would have to come back, fans would get butthurt that their favorite character hasn't returned so that character may be brought back, next thing you know Pokénon has 9 reps. Also, if there were to be another Pokémon rep, I don't think many of the other grass starters would be more fitting than other Pokémon, like fricken Mewtwo. And one last thing, there is absolutely nothing wrong with WFT and Miis. They are new characters to add more diversity to the selection. Dr. Mario on the other hand shoulda been an alt.

Blob55 said:
BTW, who is that Blonde guy next to Pac-Man and who/what is Chorus Men?
The Blonde guy is Shulk, the main protagonist from Xenoblade Chronicles. Chorus Men are characters from a mini-game in Rhythm Heaven.
Oh. That's what that game is. I thought Rhythm Heaven was some Dreamcast game for whatever reason.

I mean I think there should be the same amount of Pokémon characters as Brawl, not 8 or 9 or anything.

As for Mario... I get having Mario, Luigi, Bowser, Yoshi, Donkey Kong and Peach and all, but I really don't like Wario, as his biker outfit reminds me of Crazy Toad, Paultina is boring and should just be a pallet swap, like Daisy and Baby Bowser should go die in a frozen volcano. I just hate him, as he's the cause of all the misery Mario has in Mario Sunshine. Stupid racist Pinatas. I hope they're not in this game either.
 
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