Super Smash Bros. 3DS/Wii U

Then why did Sonic make it even though he was with SONY and GAME GEAR for years and even he was a 3rd party franchise. See a lot of stuff they add to smash sometimes does not make sense that is why I get confused part of the time there are some characters they could have done without. Like the punch out guy and the extra Zelda characters. I am just now realizing they went too far with some of the characters and they could have made space for those characters. I took me awhile to realize that they actually did go too far this time.:)
 
xxashxx said:
Then why did Sonic make it even though he was with SONY and GAME GEAR for years and even he was a 3rd party franchise. See a lot of stuff they add to smash sometimes does not make sense that is why I get confused part of the time there are some characters they could have done without. Like the punch out guy and the extra Zelda characters. I am just now realizing they went too far with some of the characters and they could have made space for those characters. I took me awhile to realize that they actually did go too far this time.:)
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Sega was bought by Nintendo after Sonic the Hedgehog 2006 (a.k.a Sonic Next Gen prior to release, and Sonic 06 post release) and had a hell of a lot of games coming out for wii. Little Mac is due to his recent Punch Out!! game for Wii, meaning he's stil la currently popular character. The "extra Zelda characters" part I don't understand. Who do you mean? But, I'll explain. Zelda is an obvious answer, she's pretty much the Peach of the LoZ series, and Shiek is in due to her being Zelda's alter ego. Nowadays it's also because of how she's from Ocarina of Time, one of the most popular (if not most) Zelda games ever. Ganondorf for the same reason as Bowser, and Toon Link for Wind Waker's extremely huge success. Basically, characters are put in based on their popularity and their games poplarity, save for those old nostalgia characters to possibly attract older players. Roy left due to Ike being newer and more popular. Mewtwo left due to the same thing with Lucario. So on, so forth.

On another note, has Sakurai stated what he'll do with Team Battles on the Wii U version? He said on 3DS there's the outline, but Wii U will most likely not have an outline feature? Also, what if you have the outline turned off on 3DS?
 
Many thanks to chariblaze for hooking me and my buddy up with the demo. Game looks nice and runs smoothly. It seems harder to launch people than it was in brawl. Mega man is dope. More when I'm home
 
PMJ said:
It seems harder to launch people than it was in brawl.
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One significant change in the mechanics between Brawl and Smash 4 is apparently that Directional Influence (DI) works quite differently. It uses to be that you could only affect the angle you'd be launched in (say something would send you straight up, if you held left on your control stick the attack would instead send you more to the left). This time around, however, holding a direction adds that direction to the direction of the attack, so if you are sent up and hold left, you'll still go as high, but also get sent a bit to the left, since you don't affect the direction (up), you just add another direction (left), it's like adding vectors. What this also means is that if you are sent up and hold down, you won't get launched as high. I'm not sure to what extent the CPUs do this, but this might cause otherwise strong moves to end up quite a bit weaker.
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The blastzones are apparently quite a bit further as well, so that might also have something to do with it.
 
Chocolate Death said:
Sega was bought by Nintendo after Sonic the Hedgehog 2006 (a.k.a Sonic Next Gen prior to release, and Sonic 06 post release) and had a hell of a lot of games coming out for wii.
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Noooope. Sega was never bought by Nintendo. They just made a deal of three exclusive Sonic titles for Nintendo platforms (and had like three exclusive Wii games too etc.).
 
Chocolate Death said:
Sega was bought by Nintendo after Sonic the Hedgehog 2006 (a.k.a Sonic Next Gen prior to release, and Sonic 06 post release) and had a hell of a lot of games coming out for wii.
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As Teal said Nintendo never bought Sega. But, in all honesty they should. They'd probably make better games then Sonic Team/Sega could.
 
I think Nintendo should buy all rights for Sonic, not Sega, because nowadays Sega is just a bunch of unskilled idiots. Then they should let their much more skilled teams work on actually good Sonic games. Sonic still has some potential, but with Sega it's almost fully wasted.
/haterant

No really they should buy Sega and put Nintendo staff in the leading positions and have some real Nintendo quality assurance so they would actually produce that gold Nintendo always does.
/offtopic
 
And will be the last /offtopic. We're talking Smash here. If anyone wants to talk about Nintendo and Sega, feel free to make a thread in Misc. Don't derail the thread here. Any further off-topic posts will be removed.
 
Great read c-m, that does make a lot of sense.

Anyway, as I said, Mega Man is awesome and super fun to play. Very satisfying to score KOs with shoryuken, but with tap jump on it's almost impossible to perform reliably. A fully charged mega buster has huge reach and it's pretty strong but it's to see coming and completely embarrassing when Villager pockets it.

I do have a hard time scoring KOs with him, though.

Does anyone know how quickly moves decay in this game?
 
I attempted to play Smash 4 3DS at my college's video game club. It was a little awkward because I wanted to use the direction pad to move Pikachu, but he ended up taunting.

Which is dumb because I used the Circle Pad to move and do attacks before so I don't know why I randomly decided that the directional pad would have the same attacking and moving functions.
 
Tails said:
Which is dumb because I used the Circle Pad to move and do attacks before so I don't know why I randomly decided that the directional pad would have the same attacking and moving functions.
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I did the same thing. It feels more natural... at least to me.
 
After X and Y, it feels more natural to use the C-stick or pad or whatever than the D-pad. After all, roller blades and bike > walking and running.
 
Oh so that is why we have so many characters of the same type then? Ever since last year or before then we started making our predictions we had been hoping for these characters to be part of the game.That is why we have so many characters. How does the guys actually pick the specific characters for each game though? That part has always gotten me since Melee came out. See when Melee first came out it was like double the characters for me and I was still used to the N64 version so that was when I was like Whoa a whole lot of characters than ever before but I never knew how they picked the characters until now though. That is why I get tripped up on why and how the characters are selected. It is good but they could have made a bit more room for more characters. The reason why I think Mewtwo should have stayed was because of the most recent movie appearance. I think was movie 14 o15 or something like that. I wonder why they did not include him since that movie was released recently.:)
 
Mewtwo is STILL a possibility (remember, no-shows aren't for sure since wii u version isn't out yet) but now with Lucario's change and greninja's style, he could easily fit BUT might not be in depending on who wants it (genwunners, or smashers) as well as whether or not he'll end up a clone.
 
Dr. Mario is the same as he was in melee. If mewtwo comes back then he probably will be, too.
 
Possibly, but I have a feeling due to the 3rd - 6th generations he'll probably be changed at least a little. He'll probably get what Lucario and Greninja got. Same style, little differences (Lucario's being +Power the higher the %, Greninja's being extremely combo friendly). I'd guess Mewtwo would get some special charge attacks that you can control the direction of. Think of Samus' Charge Shot mixed with Pit's Arrow. Or maybe he could get some targeting stuff and more teleportation stuff.
 
Chocolate Death said:
After X and Y, it feels more natural to use the C-stick or pad or whatever than the D-pad. After all, roller blades and bike > walking and running.
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I guess it was just me trying to think of Smash Bros. Brawl logic and using the Wiimote settings. I don't know; that was the main controller setting I used when I played Brawl.
 
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Salamencetrainer34 said:
I am sorry to ask this, not saying I don't believe you or anything, but do you have any proof of this? I asked the chat on his channel if he found a shiny from a pokeball, and they said no. Honestly, I always wanted shiny pokemon to be from pokeballs, I really hope you are right, shiny kyurem would be too dang awesome.
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They wouldn't have since more people focused on the fight rather than the brown swirlix by the corner of the screen yesterday. But I tried to take a print screen but then I accidentally copied a URL right after =.=
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Actually, hate being bearer of bad news, but...no shiny Pokemon are in smash 4. I saw Sullypwnz classic mode with charizard video today
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Np4PdbbLhio#t=342
The pokeball he throws has Swirlix. I thought immediately "Its a shiny!!" upon closer inspection, I went to another site and saw this photo of Swirlix
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You see, it is darker on the 'ears' and 'tail'. On the 3ds, naturally everything becomes darker due to the small screen size. This would make swirlix look much more like its shiny counterpart, which has blackened tips. Even more convincing to mislead one to think its shiny, is the ability/move it uses: Sweet veil. The move creates a barrier, and swirlix has little aroma sparkles surrounding it. Ergo, there are no shiny pokemon in smash 4 (For pokeballs at least). I can see why one would think its shiny though.
 
I thought you guys said there were spoiler videos on Youtube depicting that Mewtwo was in the game? I don't want to see the spoilers but I thought you guys said according to those videos he would most likely be in the game if the spoiler videos are out there? Now I am confused XD.:)
 
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