ORAS Team Magma / Team Aqua Discussion Thread

Mega Sharpedo for Archie! I can't stop thinking of Mega Sharpedo how will it look like? I'm placing a guess a hammer shark mega evolution?
 
woohoo962 said:
What about their teams?

Maxies team-Meteor Falls
Vulpix level 25(Flame Burst,Faint Attack,Imprison,Confuse Ray)Ability:Flash Fire
Torkoal level 25(Rapid Spin,Flame Wheel,Withdraw,Fire Spin)Ability:White Smoke
Numel level 27(Earth Power,Lava Plume,Magnitude,Amnesia)Ability:Simple

Maxies team-Magma Hideout
Ninetales level 37(Flame Burst,Confuse Ray,Flamethrower,Nasty Plot)Ability:Flash Fire
Torkoal level 37(Protect,Lava Plume,Amnesia,Flamethrower)Ability:White Smoke
Camerupt level 39(Yawn,Lava Plume,Rock Slide,Curse)Ability:Solid Rock

Maxies team-Sootopolis city
Ninetales level 43(Nasty Plot,Flamethrower,Flame Burst,Safeguard)Ability:Flash Fire
Magcargo level 43(Shell Smash,Lava Plume,Recover,Ancient Power)Ability:Magma Armor
Torkoal level 43(Lava Plume,Protect,Body Slam,Flamethrower)Ability:White Smoke
Camerupt level 45(Yawn,Rock Slide,Lava Plume,Flame Burst)Ability:Solid Rock

Archies team-Meteor Falls
Staryu level 25(Minimize,Bubble Beam,Camoflauge,Swift)Ability:Natural Cure
Wailmer level 25(Mist,Water Pulse,Astonish,Rollout)Ability:Water Veil
Carvahna level 27(Assurance,Ice Fang,Screech,Bite)Ability:Rough Skin

Archies team-Team Aqua Hideout
Starmie level 37(Hydro Pump,Bubble Beam,Swift,Confuse Ray)Ability:Natural Cure
Wailmer level 37(Amnesia,Water Pulse,Water Spout,Brine)Ability:Water Veil
Sharpedo level 37(Crunch,Aqua Jet,Slash,Swagger)Ability:Rough Skin

Archies team-Sootopolis City
Starmie level 43(Hydro Pump,Confuse Ray,Bubble Beam,Minimize)
Huntail level 43(Crunch,Dive,Ice Fang,Baton Pass)Ability:Swift Swim
Wailord level 43(Amnesia,Water Spout,Brine,Whirlpool)Ability:Water Veil
Sharpedo level 45(Agility,Crunch,Swagger,Aqua Jet)Ability:Rough Skin


Remember it's a remake, so I don't expect a much change in both Magma, and Aqua rosters. Even if I'm gonna place my hopes high, I know my hopes will eventually be crushed. Judging from the screenshots of Magma, and Aqua clash on mt. Chimney, they're both still using Poochyena, and they still have the same dialogue. Although I'm certain the Admins will have different Dialogue. You forgot about Maxie's, and Archie's mega stones on their articles.
 
Probably if you're playing Omega Ruby, Team Magma's admins Tabitha&Courtney will team up against you, and Steven will come to the rescue, and team up with you. As for Alpha Sapphire, it's vice versa Team Aqua's admins Matt&Shelly, and thus Steven will play the same role.
 
Chespin777 said:
Probably if you're playing Omega Ruby, Team Magma's admins Tabitha&Courtney will team up against you, and Steven will come to the rescue, and team up with you. As for Alpha Sapphire, it's vice versa Team Aqua's admins Matt&Shelly, and thus Steven will play the same role.

And what would they want to steal rocket fuel for? ..To expand the seas? xDD
It's already silly enough that they show up on Mt.Chimney in Sapphire.
 
Mitja said:
Chespin777 said:
Probably if you're playing Omega Ruby, Team Magma's admins Tabitha&Courtney will team up against you, and Steven will come to the rescue, and team up with you. As for Alpha Sapphire, it's vice versa Team Aqua's admins Matt&Shelly, and thus Steven will play the same role.

And what would they want to steal rocket fuel for? ..To expand the seas? xDD
It's already silly enough that they show up on Mt.Chimney in Sapphire.

To avoid sea pollution! Or they've run out of fuel for the stolen submarine and decided to make a quick stop in Mossdeep! :p
 
Leaf_Ranger said:
Mitja said:
And what would they want to steal rocket fuel for? ..To expand the seas? xDD
It's already silly enough that they show up on Mt.Chimney in Sapphire.

To avoid sea pollution! Or they've run out of fuel for the stolen submarine and decided to make a quick stop in Mossdeep! :p

You might battle them in the seafloor cavern instead of the Mossdeep space center. Yeah that would be illogical if Aqua were after the rocket fuel. Lol XD
 
Chespin777 said:
Leaf_Ranger said:
To avoid sea pollution! Or they've run out of fuel for the stolen submarine and decided to make a quick stop in Mossdeep! :p

You might battle them in the seafloor cavern instead of the Mossdeep space center. Yeah that would be illogical if Aqua were after the rocket fuel. Lol XD

to put water on the moon
 
Fairy Type Arceus said:
Chespin777 said:
You might battle them in the seafloor cavern instead of the Mossdeep space center. Yeah that would be illogical if Aqua were after the rocket fuel. Lol XD

to put water on the moon

I have a feeling, that they will tweak the Magma/Aqua plot a little bit. I forgot to mention that Groudon still leaps out of the sea! Rather than being caught in the heart of Mt. Chimney, Emerald relocated Groudon's site rather, than making Groudon asleep in the depth of the ocean. If you had seen the screenshots of primal Groudon&Kyogre, it appears Groudon is fought inside a cavern, while Kyogre is fought outside in surface of the sea, and it is raining.
 
Chespin777 said:
Fairy Type Arceus said:
to put water on the moon

I have a feeling, that they will tweak the Magma/Aqua plot a little bit. I forgot to mention that Groudon still leaps out of the sea! Rather than being caught in the heart of Mt. Chimney, Emerald relocated Groudon's site rather, than making Groudon asleep in the depth of the ocean. If you had seen the screenshots of primal Groudon&Kyogre, it appears Groudon is fought inside a cavern, while Kyogre is fought outside in surface of the sea, and it is raining.

Groudon (same as Kyogre) comes out of the ocean right where Seafloor Cavern would be (the cave beneath the ocean where the mascot resides in RS anyway...), since you can see it looking towards Sootopolis.

Those aren't story-battles, as the player is using them and the opponent has Blaziken/Swampert, all of them level 100.
 
Chespin777 said:
The improvements of team Magma, and Aqua rosters that we're likely to see in OR/AS as follows.

Team Magma's pokemons list: Zubat, Golbat, Crobat, Poochyena, Mightyena, Numel, Camerupt, Zangoose, Baltoy, Claydoll.

Note: Zangoose, is a version exclusive Pokemon for Ruby, it will remain exclusive in the remake as well. As for Camerupt it might have a mega evolution.

Team Aqua's Pokemons list: Zubat, Golbat, Crobat, Poochyena, Mightyena, Carvanha, Sharpedo, Seviper, Corphish, Crawdaunt.

Another note: Seviper is a version exclusive to sapphire as well, for Sharpedo it's more likely has a mega evolution.

Interesting fact, I remember in the Pokemon TCG department, when they released Team Magma, and team Aqua sets, Baltoy, and Claydoll cards were of Team Magma, and Corphish, Crawdaunt cards were of team Aqua. I'm crossing my fingers to see team Aqua use Crawdaunt, along Sharpedo. Corphish comes before Baltoy in the Hoenn regional dex.
2 things.
1: Baltoy? Claydol? come on man, they should use fire types like slugma and magcargo. zangoose and seviper can go in favor of torkoal and basculin.
2: you spelled claydol wrong. one l, not 2.
 
woohoo962 said:
Chespin777 said:
The improvements of team Magma, and Aqua rosters that we're likely to see in OR/AS as follows.

Team Magma's pokemons list: Zubat, Golbat, Crobat, Poochyena, Mightyena, Numel, Camerupt, Zangoose, Baltoy, Claydoll.

Note: Zangoose, is a version exclusive Pokemon for Ruby, it will remain exclusive in the remake as well. As for Camerupt it might have a mega evolutio.

Team Aqua's Pokemons list: Zubat, Golbat, Crobat, Poochyena, Mightyena, Carvanha, Sharpedo, Seviper, Corphish, Crawdaunt.

Another note: Seviper is a version exclusive to sapphire as well, for Sharpedo it's more likely has a mega evolution.

Interesting fact, I remember in the Pokemon TCG department, when they released Team Magma, and team Aqua sets, Baltoy, and Claydoll cards were of Team Magma, and Corphish, Crawdaunt cards were of team Aqua. I'm crossing my fingers to see team Aqua use Crawdaunt, along Sharpedo. Corphish comes before Baltoy in the Hoenn regional dex.
2 things.
1: Baltoy? Claydol? come on man, they should use fire types like slugma and magcargo. zangoose and seviper can go in favor of torkoal and basculin.
2: you spelled claydol wrong. one l, not 2.

If you don't know, team Magma used Baltoy in Emerald. Zangoose&Seviper were also exclusive counterparts in the TCG of team Magma& Aqua sets. What the heck is Basculin a 5th generation Pokemon doing in a 3rd generation remake?! They can't include a modern Pokemon into past generation Pokemon remake. I won't reiterate my statement, it's a "REMAKE" so pretty much everything will be the same as the old Ruby&Sapphire.
 
Chespin777 said:
woohoo962 said:
2 things.
1: Baltoy? Claydol? come on man, they should use fire types like slugma and magcargo. zangoose and seviper can go in favor of torkoal and basculin.
2: you spelled claydol wrong. one l, not 2.

If you don't know, team Magma used Baltoy in Emerald. Zangoose&Seviper were also exclusive counterparts in the TCG of team Magma& Aqua sets. What the heck is Basculin a 5th generation Pokemon doing in a 3rd generation remake?! They can't include a modern Pokemon into past generation Pokemon remake. I won't reiterate my statement, it's a "REMAKE" so pretty much everything will be the same as the old Ruby&Sapphire.
these are RUBY AND SAPPHIRE remakes, so if you really wanted an emerald one go replace corphish and crawdaunt with wailmer and wailord. also, a TCG exclusive has never been a part of a villainous teams team in the games. ( im saying team magma zangoose/team aqua seviper, team galactic arcanine, team plasma skarmory, dark ampharos....)
 
woohoo962 said:
Chespin777 said:
If you don't know, team Magma used Baltoy in Emerald. Zangoose&Seviper were also exclusive counterparts in the TCG of team Magma& Aqua sets. What the heck is Basculin a 5th generation Pokemon doing in a 3rd generation remake?! They can't include a modern Pokemon into past generation Pokemon remake. I won't reiterate my statement, it's a "REMAKE" so pretty much everything will be the same as the old Ruby&Sapphire.
these are RUBY AND SAPPHIRE remakes, so if you really wanted an emerald one go replace corphish and crawdaunt with wailmer and wailord. also, a TCG exclusive has never been a part of a villainous teams team in the games. ( im saying team magma zangoose/team aqua seviper, team galactic arcanine, team plasma skarmory, dark ampharos....)

Thanks captain obvious. You wanted Team Aqua to use a 5th generation Pokemon "Basculin", in a remake lol.
 
While Claydol would fit Magma, it doesn't have any proper counterpart (except Bronzong which has nothing to do with Aqua/gen 3), but there is no way they would use Crawdaunt as one. Because it's a counterpart would be Whiscash which is obviously a no for Magma.

So Wailmer would make more sense in the "Claydol" case, as they've used it in Emerald, AND it's the (not Kyogre) pokemon that learns Water Spout, the counterpart to Camerupts (Groudons) Eruption


And if they added anything from the rosters that was used in the TCG, it would hopefully (but unlikely due to glacia/champ) be Aggron/Walrein.
 
Mitja said:
While Claydol would fit Magma, it doesn't have any proper counterpart (except Bronzong which has nothing to do with Aqua/gen 3), but there is no way they would use Crawdaunt as one. Because it's a counterpart would be Whiscash which is obviously a no for Magma.

So Wailmer would make more sense in the "Claydol" case, as they've used it in Emerald, AND it's the (not Kyogre) pokemon that learns Water Spout, the counterpart to Camerupts (Groudons) Eruption


And if they added anything from the rosters that was used in the TCG, it would hopefully (but unlikely due to glacia/champ) be Aggron/Walrein.

It's just a theory, Team Aqua have used Crawdaunt significantly in the anime, manga, series even it was an exclusive pokemon in Aqua's TCG set. Wailmer is too bland to be used by villains like team Aqua, I don't mind seeing team Aqua use Wailmer in their roster, at least a little bit of improvement for both Magma&Aqua rosters, rather than just using Zubat, Poochyena, Magma Numel/ Aqua Carvanha.You're right about the Walrein&Aggron, despite the fact those being exclusive as well in the TCG of Magma&Aqua sets they can't use them, because Glacia needs Walrein, whereas Steven needs steel types such as Aggron.
 
Chespin777 said:
Mitja said:
While Claydol would fit Magma, it doesn't have any proper counterpart (except Bronzong which has nothing to do with Aqua/gen 3), but there is no way they would use Crawdaunt as one. Because it's a counterpart would be Whiscash which is obviously a no for Magma.

So Wailmer would make more sense in the "Claydol" case, as they've used it in Emerald, AND it's the (not Kyogre) pokemon that learns Water Spout, the counterpart to Camerupts (Groudons) Eruption


And if they added anything from the rosters that was used in the TCG, it would hopefully (but unlikely due to glacia/champ) be Aggron/Walrein.

It's just a theory, Team Aqua have used Crawdaunt significantly in the anime, manga, series even it was an exclusive pokemon in Aqua's TCG set. Wailmer is too bland to be used by villains like team Aqua, I don't mind seeing team Aqua use Wailmer in their roster, at least a little bit of improvement for both Magma&Aqua rosters, rather than just using Zubat, Poochyena, Magma Numel/ Aqua Carvanha.You're right about the Walrein&Aggron, despite the fact those being exclusive as well in the TCG of Magma&Aqua sets they can't use them, because Glacia needs Walrein, whereas Steven needs steel types such as Aggron.

I don't care if they use them in the anime/manga as gamefreak doesn't have control over them for details like that, but they didn't make Crawdaunt as "just another sneaky water poke in case aqua needs more", but as one of 2 fishing pokemon that get available with the better rods. And lets not forget that those are not salt-water/ocean pokes, whereas Wailmer is exactly what Aqua is about: vast open seas.
And with Groudon being Ground/Fire in it's primal forme while Kyogre stays pure Water, Wailmer (having Water Spout) isn't really any more bland than magmas Eruption-user Camerupt.
 
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Mitja said:
Chespin777 said:
It's just a theory, Team Aqua have used Crawdaunt significantly in the anime, manga, series even it was an exclusive pokemon in Aqua's TCG set. Wailmer is too bland to be used by villains like team Aqua, I don't mind seeing team Aqua use Wailmer in their roster, at least a little bit of improvement for both Magma&Aqua rosters, rather than just using Zubat, Poochyena, Magma Numel/ Aqua Carvanha.You're right about the Walrein&Aggron, despite the fact those being exclusive as well in the TCG of Magma&Aqua sets they can't use them, because Glacia needs Walrein, whereas Steven needs steel types such as Aggron.

I don't care if they use them in the anime/manga as gamefreak doesn't have control over them for details like that, but they didn't make Crawdaunt as "just another sneaky water poke in case aqua needs more", but as one of 2 fishing pokemon that get available with the better rods. And lets not forget that those are not salt-water/ocean pokes, whereas Wailmer is exactly what Aqua is about: vast open seas.
And with Groudon being Ground/Fire in it's primal forme while Kyogre stays pure Water, Wailmer (having Water Spout) isn't really any more bland than magmas Eruption-user Camerupt.

Bottom line of this discussion. Game freak chose to give team Magma&Aqua, this crappy roster in the first place, and eventually they will stick with this set of Pokemons in the remake. You, and I were placing our hopes high for a bit of improvement, you wanted Team Aqua not to have anything relevant to Mt. Chimney. When you had seen the screenshots, they still showed up in Mt. Chimney in Alpha sapphire, and wanted to exploit Mt. Chimney so they can expand the seas. That's why you were disappointed. Yet, they still have the same dialogue from the original games. I likewise changed my mind, and became reluctant with my thoughts, and I said to myself "it's a remake, buff up the graphics, and shove some rehashed Pokemons, and few new things". That's what remakes have always been about.
 
what about Clamperl with team Aqua, like Huntail for the evolution, Relicanth etc....

I can see team magma using Solrock, and Claydol easily what about a Cacnea? I know this is a little far fetch but some desert pokemon I thought they might change up the pokemon a little in their rosters

but that is just me I just hope they are just a little more powerful :D
 
Chespin777 said:
woohoo962 said:
these are RUBY AND SAPPHIRE remakes, so if you really wanted an emerald one go replace corphish and crawdaunt with wailmer and wailord. also, a TCG exclusive has never been a part of a villainous teams team in the games. ( im saying team magma zangoose/team aqua seviper, team galactic arcanine, team plasma skarmory, dark ampharos....)

Thanks captain obvious. You wanted Team Aqua to use a 5th generation Pokemon "Basculin", in a remake lol.
At leat i dont wedge TCG exclusives in their teams( Zangoose and Seviper).
 
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