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RE: The Big Questions - Is Obama right to compare the BP oil leak to the 9/11 bombings?

Gale said:
Discussional isn't a word.

I've said this for several years. It's a Pokemon website. There are some people here who are knowledgeable and know what they're talking about, but it doesn't really matter. The kind of debate you're going to spark between members here isn't going to be very enthusiastic. Serious topics are perfect places to troll or attempt to troll, and wailerman had the right idea (or wailerman's friend, whatever). The point is, none of these kinds of threads last long, and nothing makes one different from the other, So that's right, I don't care, and not many other people do. I'm not trying to be rude I'm just saying that intellectual conversation pertaining to real world problems on these forums is hard to come by, especially because we're a bunch of teenagers.

As for my stand on the future of America, I have none. This place won't be around long enough for me to plan a life here or attempt to change anything. That might be a pessimistic outlook but that's my opinion.

As for the topic itself, I'll put my two cents in if it will make people happy. They're similar in the sense that we were able to prevent both of them but were too ignorant to do so, and we'll probably be dealing with the aftermath for a long time.
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I agree with Gale, I never seriously discuss these problems because unless I actually try to help the problem, my opinion is pointless.
 
RE: The Big Questions - Is Obama right to compare the BP oil leak to the 9/11 bombings?

Gale said:
Discussional isn't a word.

I've said this for several years. It's a Pokemon website. There are some people here who are knowledgeable and know what they're talking about, but it doesn't really matter. The kind of debate you're going to spark between members here isn't going to be very enthusiastic. Serious topics are perfect places to troll or attempt to troll, and wailerman had the right idea (or wailerman's friend, whatever). The point is, none of these kinds of threads last long, and nothing makes one different from the other, So that's right, I don't care, and not many other people do. I'm not trying to be rude I'm just saying that intellectual conversation pertaining to real world problems on these forums is hard to come by, especially because we're a bunch of teenagers.

As for my stand on the future of America, I have none. This place won't be around long enough for me to plan a life here or attempt to change anything. That might be a pessimistic outlook but that's my opinion.

As for the topic itself, I'll put my two cents in if it will make people happy. They're similar in the sense that we were able to prevent both of them but were too ignorant to do so, and we'll probably be dealing with the aftermath for a long time.
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It is a word.

This may be a Pokémon forum but many people still want to talk about other things. Heck, where did I even say that it must not be Pokémon? The next question will be Pokémon related, so get in your suggestions.
 
RE: The Big Questions - Is Obama right to compare the BP oil leak to the 9/11 bombings?

Ice Espeon said:
It is a word.

This may be a Pokémon forum but many people still want to talk about other things. Heck, where did I even say that it must not be Pokémon? The next question will be Pokémon related, so get in your suggestions.
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(I felt like pointing it out. Discussional itself is not a word. It's a related form of the word "Discussion". It just sounds kind of weird to say discussional. I don't feel like going even more offtopic. Parenthesis' for the win!)

People are free to talk about other things, you just can't expect them to take it seriously.

Also, the next question really shouldn't be Pokemon related because this forum is for everything that doesn't have to do with Pokemon. I'm not discouraging you to stop making these threads, but I'm just saying that people like me and wailerman will come in and demonstrate how some people don't take things seriously. Immature? Yeah. Practical? To us it is.

To ensure this post isn't completely offtopic,

42 chocolate said:
Are you kidding me? They're already coming up with solutions right now, whereas 9/11 still hasn't been "fixed!" There is no way to fix 9/11. And Obama was wrong to compare the two events (of course I haven't even seen the speech haha), but everybody makes mistakes.

Also, Tristan, just because you hate someone does not make it right to judge their actions based on that. If someone you hated was in a play, and you went to see that play, and they portrayed their role quite well, if your mom asked what you thought of the play would you say, "horrible, because I hate the lead actor?"
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Hating the lead actor is a pretty good reason for disliking a play. Let's say you were watching Julius Caesar, and the guy who played Caesar couldn't remember his lines, wasn't convincing, always dropped the scene, etc. I have no stand on Obama and do not wish to assert my political views they are: I don't care about anything at all, but if someone doesn't like Obama because of his attitude or the way he "performs", if you want to go that route, they won't like his subsequent actions. If people liked Obama before he became president, or before he started the play, if you want to go that route, then maybe they'll like him while he's president. Maybe some people think he isn't right for the "role", if you want to go that route again, and criticize him for his performance. People's opinions are changed very easily, and they matter.

I can't say I agree or disagree with anyone in this thread. Continue.
 
RE: The Big Questions - Is Obama right to compare the BP oil leak to the 9/11 bombings?

Gale said:
42 chocolate said:
Also, Tristan, just because you hate someone does not make it right to judge their actions based on that. If someone you hated was in a play, and you went to see that play, and they portrayed their role quite well, if your mom asked what you thought of the play would you say, "horrible, because I hate the lead actor?"
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Hating the lead actor is a pretty good reason for disliking a play. Let's say you were watching Julius Caesar, and the guy who played Caesar couldn't remember his lines, wasn't convincing, always dropped the scene, etc.
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He meant as in personal dislike, not based on actual performance.

But yeah. Stop digressing, everyone. >=[
 
RE: The Big Questions - Is Obama right to compare the BP oil leak to the 9/11 bombings?

Comparing Obama to a person who is "portraying their role quite well" is a opinion. There are people who don't like Obama and don't think he is portraying the role of president well. So by using your example, if they liked Obama prior to his role, or, during the primaries, then they probably voted for him and might still like him. If someone didn't like Obama during the primaries, then they didn't vote for him, and because of their dislike before he was even elected, they probably still don't like him, even if to some he is doing a good job.

I didn't make it clear in my last post, I apologize. What I'm saying is Obama might be doing a great job to some people, and a horrible job to others, but you can't base your opinion on someone on just their current performance alone, or past experiences. It's a combination of your initial opinion, and if that initial opinion has changed over the course of knowing that person. People who like Obama will approve of what he's doing, or his performance, and people who dislike Obama, even if he is performing very well to some, who dislike his actions because they don't approve of what he's doing.

So I guess now we're back on topic, even though this isn't a "like or dislike Barack Obama" thread.
 
RE: The Big Questions - Is Obama right to compare the BP oil leak to the 9/11 bombings?

Yes, they are totally different. One is a huge disaster and the other is a huge disaster, what a big difference.

Gale said:
I didn't make it clear in my last post, I apologize. What I'm saying is Obama might be doing a great job to some people, and a horrible job to others, but you can't base your opinion on someone on just their current performance alone, or past experiences. It's a combination of your initial opinion, and if that initial opinion has changed over the course of knowing that person. People who like Obama will approve of what he's doing, or his performance, and people who dislike Obama, even if he performing very well to some, who dislike his actions because they don't approve of what he's doing.

So I guess now we're back on topic, even though this isn't a "like or dislike Barack Obama" thread.
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^^This! Obama will never please everyone. Get over it. Loads of the people at my school hate him, then I ask why; They have no idea. Unless you are smart enough to create your own opinion on hating someone than taking in rambles from your parents, I suggest you keep them to yourself.

There will never be a magical unicorn who will win the election and make all your dreams and wishes come true, then lead our country in the name of sprinkles. I'm very sorry to tell you, but someone had to.
 
RE: The Big Questions - Is Obama right to compare the BP oil leak to the 9/11 bombings?

Gale said:
Comparing Obama to a person who is "portraying their role quite well" is a opinion. There are people who don't like Obama and don't think he is portraying the role of president well. So by using your example, if they liked Obama prior to his role, or, during the primaries, then they probably voted for him and might still like him. If someone didn't like Obama during the primaries, then they didn't vote for him, and because of their dislike before he was even elected, they probably still don't like him, even if to some he is doing a good job.
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I'm not comparing Obama to that. I'm simply giving an example that just because you hate someone doesn't mean their actions are horrible. I'm sorry, but it wasn't clear.
 
RE: The Big Questions - Is Obama right to compare the BP oil leak to the 9/11 bombings?

42 chocolate said:
I'm not comparing Obama to that. I'm simply giving an example that just because you hate someone doesn't mean their actions are horrible. I'm sorry, but it wasn't clear.
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No, that's true. But if someone didn't like Obama then THEY would think his actions are horrible, and people's own opinions matter to them more than the opinion of anyone else.
 
RE: The Big Questions - Is Obama right to compare the BP oil leak to the 9/11 bombings?

I love how obama started talking about global warming in his speech about the oil the other day, cant bellieve he tried to pul that, what do the two have in common, NOTHING. (unless the sung was why the oil ship blew :))
 
RE: The Big Questions - Is Obama right to compare the BP oil leak to the 9/11 bombings?

Tristan said:
No

My reasons why

One it is kind of natural
Two this is just as bad as 911 but not really comparable
Three I think that in 911 it happened and was done this however has happened and is still going on
Four I hate obama
Five I think that this thread is a good idea but you might need more support from the mods
I also think that you should let other people make the questions by Via PM




Hope this help

T
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I totally agree i hate obama too :)
 
RE: The Big Questions - Is Obama right to compare the BP oil leak to the 9/11 bombing

Cisco said:
I totally agree i hate obama too :)
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while I agree that I dont like Obama, it does not do much to just agree and say "yah, I hate him". I consider myself a conservative even though I am not that happy with obama so far (anyone listen to "The Big Talker" on 1210 AM and the Rush Limbaw show?) I dont think it does us much to say "I hate him" but instead decide what he CAN DO BETTER or at LEAST say WHY you dont like him (and there should be multiple reasons or else you dont have much of a case except for just being a hater...)

That is my view, thank you
 
RE: The Big Questions - Is Obama right to compare the BP oil leak to the 9/11 bombings?

WailmerMan said:
I agree with Gale, I never seriously discuss these problems because unless I actually try to help the problem, my opinion is pointless.
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For that, you are on the blacklist.

Sub-Question - What should be done about the leak?
 
RE: The Big Questions - Is Obama right to compare the BP oil leak to the 9/11 bombings?

Ice Espeon said:
For that, you are on the blacklist.

Sub-Question - What should be done about the leak?
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Nice one, Wailmerman. You just proven your worthlessness on this thread. ;D

The question really should be how no one actually got news of this out: did every single engineer really go, "let's make this thing cheaper even though there's a good risk it'll fail!"? Seriously.
 
RE: The Big Questions - Is Obama right to compare the BP oil leak to the 9/11 bombings?

I think they should stop whining and just stop the leak. The whole situation is just a mess. This is a case of a company ignoring safety to maximise profits.

What do people think for the next big question?
 
RE: The Big Questions - Is Obama right to compare the BP oil leak to the 9/11 bombing

Ice Espeon said:
I think they should stop whining and just stop the leak. The whole situation is just a mess. This is a case of a company ignoring safety to maximise profits.

What do people think for the next big question?
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Ummm...I here there like, brainwashing kids, to sing songs about obama, I think we are moving towards capitalism more and more...
 
RE: The Big Questions - Is Obama right to compare the BP oil leak to the 9/11 bombings?

There are other places in the world other than America you know.
 
RE: The Big Questions - Is Obama right to compare the BP oil leak to the 9/11 bombings?

Yes, I do know, so, what about foreign relations? I here there is some new valuable source in the midwest.
 
RE: The Big Questions - Is Obama right to compare the BP oil leak to the 9/11 bombings?

Israel attacking Gaza aid convoys?
 
RE: The Big Questions - Is Obama right to compare the BP oil leak to the 9/11 bombings?

No. The country is not nearly as riled up as they were on 9/11. Do you hear any awful singers making "Remember The Spill". Not only that, but it's not nearly as disruptive to the general public that 9/11 was. As I recall, I can still travel freely in the air.

Is this even an appropriate topic to post on the beach?
 
RE: The Big Questions - Is Obama right to compare the BP oil leak to the 9/11 bombings?

The only comparison that should be made between the BP oil spill and the 9-11 plane crashes is that like 9-11, the BP oil spill has the potential to change things. You don't take an incident like this and not learn from it. It's true that we now (after the fact sadly) can enforce stricter policies on resource extraction, but the correct solution to this is to finally get some government support on green initiatives. "Going green" is the correct solution to this tragedy, and it's up to government bodies to make this a possibility because right now most green practices such as hybrid/electric cars, alternative energy panels for housing, etc, are prohibitively expensive. It is my hope that this is the final push in making green initiatives the method through which things get done.

(DISCLAIMER: these are my opinions exclusively. I apologize in advance if you are offended in any way but I will not rescind on what I believe, nor would I expect you to do the same. In no way am I saying that disaster is a good thing, however it is my opinion that it can indeed be an agent for great change. It all depends on which way the powers-that-be decide to take the disaster and act upon it.)
 
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