I feel like I'm in the bottom 3 because
I'm from smogon I made my Pokemon good.
No, you are in the bottom 3 because by your own admission you chose to base your pokemon on the easiest thing to draw. AKA didn't take your task seriously.
Looking at the moveset accusations -- you guys have clearly never trained a Pokemon up to level 100 before. At least 60% of Pokemon would have some crazy moves right at the end of their lives - hence the Ingrain up there. I also disagree with the design having a terrible idea behind it; corn -> bigger corn (stalk) -> corn snake. Many Grass-Type Pokemon are based from reptiles and snakes anyway.
Most pokemon stop learning new moves way before Lv100. The only exceptions are legendaries and many pokemon suffering from last gen's power creep, like gardevoir, who now learns her last move around Lv80.
And as subjective as the terrible idea seems to be, as I said, there is no logical (therefore objective and plausible) progression. Many grass type pokemon are based off reptiles, but they don't change radically between stages. Your line, when seen separately, can be interpreted as three different lines: a candy corn line, a maize line and a bipedal snake/stalk of corn. they don't have any elements to join them beyond being tangentially related to corn, not to mention that corn has nothing to do with fire whatsoever. fire, as in the type you had to base your pokemon around. I gave you the best possible hint for your typing: australian eucaliptus trees. trees that survive brushfires, rain highly flammable leaves and can explode in occasion. But that would have been too difficult to draw. So corn it was, then.
More criticism:
The BST. 95 - 60 - 100 - 135 - 110 - 60 BST: 560 -- You compared this guy to Volcarona, Mega Absol, Togekiss and Mega Manectric. Their BSTs, respectively, are: 550, 565, 545, 575. HOWEVER, before you cry, think about it for a second: All of these Pokemon are in the hypothetical UU tier anyway. Plus, Mega Manectric is down in RU. Which is what I wanted to do -- I designed my Pokemon to be a major threat in [v]RU[/v].
"I designed my Pokemon to be a major threat in [v]RU[/v]" You haven't read anything I wrote about smogon, haven't you? If you weren't third already, with this admission I would take your entry below eron's, If I could.
"All of these Pokemon are in the hypothetical UU tier" Do you for a moment thought GF gives a damn about smogon and its hypotetical tiers? You are designing a pokemon, not a statistic. You take everyhing that made pokemon great and stomp on it in a fruitless search for superiority. You made a RU tier pokemon. What do you do now? is it cute? is it badass? would you own it if you could? would you feed it, pet him and be his friend? if it were on a box. would you buy the game? Where is the charm? where is the consistency? how does it fit with the other 700 odd existing pokemon? how would people react to it? would children like it? Pokemon are not fighting machines, both in universe and as a product, they are friends in one and charismatic characters in the other. That's design. Subtly tugging at the heartstrings of people to show what you want to show. That's art (sorry, I meant "Flavor"), and it's hard. And I did warn all of you that I wouldn't take anything from smogon, I actually argued with eagle. about it. If you were making a statement with your pokemon, I respect that, as you should respect my opinions (the judge's opinions). But if even after I said out loud "if I catch any of you doing smogon-quality pokemon in this contest you get a 0" you still decided to do a smogon quality pokemon, you lost every right to complain and appeal any decision whatsoever.
You went explicitly against my suggestion of taking my stance on smogon into account. Now you must face the consequences. And as I see now, those consequences got you eliminated from the challenge, a far worse fate than even I could have predicted.
Volcarona gets a fantastic movepool - everything it wants. From Quiver Dance to set up to Fire and Bug STAB. Mega Absol gets Magic Bounce and it is very fast, Togekiss is incredibly bulky but not overly powerful and Mega Manectric is in the same tier as what I wanted mine to be; except mine is slower and bulkier while Mega-Manectric is fast with the same special attack. Besides, look at the spread for the attacks. You have a slow Pokemon in Quetzacorntl but the base 50 speed tier is generally when people say "too fast to use Trick Room well". Here, we have a base 60, so it's in that awkward tier where it will take a lot of hits and not even Trick Room can save it. It doesn't have the greatest movepool, and to be honest it was just the TMs that boosted it up to that tier -- I didn't want it to have Energy Ball etc..
Name one naturally learned move volcarona gets and it is not rooted on some part of its body or its concept. All your reasonings about speed tiers, counters, abilities and trick room don't mean anything for the design. That's just math. Post-fact math. Cold math. when you design, you don't give a damn that such or such pokemon or strategy will be a counter, you do what you have to do to make the design be coherent. your pokemon could really benefit from a fire-type move to take out scizor, its main counter? tough luck, baby; your pokemon is a god damn fairy elf, it won't throw flames from its mouth, because it doesn't make sense.
On a regular playthrough of the game (we are ingame now) he won't get most of the moves you mentioned -- he will get things like you would expect him to. He learns Flamethrower through level up, but you will probably have the TM sooner. He learns all of the status moves we all know about on Grass Type Pokemon etc. etc..
The moves that you said were stupid to learn: Fire Spin, Poison Sting, Sing, Will-O-Wisp, Perish Song, Brick Break, Quash, Flash Cannon, Hones Claws, Grass Pledge, Fire Pledge.
In a regular playthrough of the game your pokemon will get what you, the designer, allowed your damn pokemon to get. You can't predict what the hell your player will give to your pokemon... all you can do is make the TM list that doesn't stretch too much the concept. Sure, a dragon can throw fire. Sure, a fish can use ice beam. Sure a grass snake (let's call it that, shall we?) can sharpen it's claws. Wait, what? what claws? how can a snake have claws? how can a snake gather its light energy and shoot it? how can corn naturally poison enemies? with what sting? cworn doesn't have a sting anywhere, doesn't it? quetzalcorntl (this:[img width=50 height=]http://puu.sh/6HUmo.png[/img]) measures less than 1.3 mts and according to your drawing (well, not yours, really, you did ask for help) it has all its body mass in a vertical, narrow vector. Do you know what that means? it means quetzacorntl doesn't have the necessary mass required to pin down an opposing pokemon, you might as well give quash to pikachu. Look at all the pokemon that can learn quash, physically strong, bulky (physically, I don't give a damn their stats) pokemon. Is quetzalcorntl a physically strong, bulky pokemon? I could tie him around my waist and still have some length of pokemon remaining to wipe my mouth after dinner.
I don't know why you brought any of these up in a competitive light to be honest, they are all for flavour except MAYBE Will-O-Wisp and Perish Song.
I never brought up anything in a competitive light. You did. When you designed it.
I judged your pokemon as how it measured to the real pokemon, those designed by experts and declared ready for release to the unforgiving masses. I also judged basing on how your partners did their pokemon. Look at their entries. Even eron had a more nunaced movepool than your pokemon, and his pokemon learned solarbeam at level 8.
"they are all for flavour" No, they are all for pokemon. Do you think millions of kids bought pokemon in the 90s because it had an impressive, tiered combat system with stats and IVs and balanced types? no. They bought it because you could command a giant turtle with cannons coming out of its shell. or a freaking firebreathing dragon, or a giant drill dinosaur. They bought it for the flavor.
Pokemon wouldn't have existed as such if it wasn't for flavor. If you don't take "flavor" as the center of your design, you are not making a pokemon. You are making a knockoff. All your partners made pokemon. Eron had a good idea for a pure electric type, theguy had a neat concept, but panicked for the lack of time, rev3sor misinterpreted palutena's hint and ended up doing voltorb V2.0, but his moves were spot on. Another drawing and he would have been higher. You, on the other hand, took three thinly related objects, added a freaking massive movepool, both by level up and by TM, gave it an almost legendary-grade power and tried to justify all of it afterwards by using a non-pokemon official, completely hypotetical tiering system, relating it to other pokemon who weren't made with such system in mind (read: GF doesn't give a damn about smogon and its tiers).
Read what I said before. The tiering system is evolution. Real evolution. Darwinian evolution. Top tier pokemon weren't designed specifically to be top tier, they reached that point by being the best among hundreds of other pokemon in millions of random matches, and the weak got the shaft to lower tiers. You designed your pokemon with a tier already in mind. You tried to jump over the natural evolution and toss some unnatural thing in it.
Fire Spin - A move which every single basic Fire-Type learns. This was a no-brainer... plus the fact that it is supposed to be trying to mirror the trapping habits it's Dad has, but only letting out a little Fire Spin.
How many learn it at level 1?
Poison Sting - Candy Corn can be poisonous.
That's your excuse? really? everything can be poisonous. And corn doesn't have anything to sting.
Will-O-Wisp - Come on, all little Fire-Type Pokemon learn this. For example, Vulpix, Fennekin and Houndour are without a TM. With a TM are: The Charizard line, Archanine line, Pontya line, Magmar line, Flareon, Moltres, Typhlosion line, Magcargo line, Entei, Torchic line, Camerupt line, Torkoal, Chimchar line, Heatran, Victini, Tepig line, Pansear line, Darumaka line, Litwick line, Heatmor, Larvesta line, Reshiram, Talonflame line and the Litleo line. It makes sense to have it...
All fire types learn it, yes. By TM.
The only fire types who learn it naturally are vulpix and fennekin. The rest are ghosts. Is your corn a ghost, too? that's the only thing missing.
Perish Song - I actually explained this. It is something made of Grass SHOOTING FIRE. This would burn it down - this is why in the Pokedex entries it talks about Staleam being nervous most of the time. Both Perish Song and Sing are here because this Pokemon line is extremely peaceful by nature, which was also in the Pokedex entries.
Why not memento then? why sing? is being peaceful the only thing it takes to learn sing? togepi doesn't get it. the other hundreds of peaceful pokemon don't get it.
I've run out of time, but answer this for now professor...
