The Importance of Coin Flips in the Current Format
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It's a card game.. Luck is going to be involved no matter what. From what I've asked around, MTG also has an advantage when going first. Only YGO doesn't show major advantage in going either first or second. No matter how you look at it, there is still luck involved and you can't blame the rules for that. As julliant said, blame the card design.
to whoever that said only donk,sps and trainer locks were the only thing played,come on man,what about so many other decks like gdos,kingdra,pluff,flygon?and thats not even half of what got played...i completely agree with Ty W on this,either we need some errata or a change in rules to make sure the person going second has justice ...
Kingdra, Pluff, GDos and Flygon all don't want to go second? I doubt. Played Kingdra since it was released. I was begging to go second almost every game so that I can T1 Kingdra.
Well if Ty W is having this stand:
Then I believe there is no way that there will be "justice" in going second. It's a card game, luck will be involved. Julliant is right, blame the cards like Donphan, Yanmega who hit so hard, so fast. If you want to complain don't take it out on the rules, take it out on Pokemon Card Laboratory.
Well if Ty W is having this stand:
Ty W said:
Then I believe there is no way that there will be "justice" in going second. It's a card game, luck will be involved. Julliant is right, blame the cards like Donphan, Yanmega who hit so hard, so fast. If you want to complain don't take it out on the rules, take it out on Pokemon Card Laboratory.
Blame the fact that luck has an impact on the game?
Or blame Pokémon for changing the rules so that luck has even more of an impact on the game?
I choose the second one. It was fine before, now it's not. Even if it wasn't fine, it's worse now. And I blame the rules, not the fact that it's a card game. The game never changed, the rules did.
Or blame Pokémon for changing the rules so that luck has even more of an impact on the game?
I choose the second one. It was fine before, now it's not. Even if it wasn't fine, it's worse now. And I blame the rules, not the fact that it's a card game. The game never changed, the rules did.
Scizorliscious said:
Scizorliscious said:
We're just going back to how the game was played during the Base set era. And you're wrong, the game has changed a lot. We didn't have a Stage 1 with resistance to everything that isn't water that dealt 60 damage for one energy. We didn't have stage 1s that did hell of a ton of damage for such a low energy cost. I blame the cards itself for making the game with low energy costs for high damage.
So those cards make the way we play more fair? Not at all. The cards we have don't matter. The way the rules used to be last format were fairer. There's just no way around that. No matter that we have a bunch of Stage 1s, they get a HUGE advantage by going first. Just as they would have a SLIGHT advantage going second if the rules changed back. Sure, the game's changed a lot, but I meant the way it's played. The challenge is still there to get as much damage as you can put out while limiting your opponent's damage output and avoiding KOs. It all comes down to that. With the power creep, even, cards are still as good as the rest of the format. Better than they used to be, but better analogously. Honestly, I don't see why that changes anything.
...and even if the other three decks started first,they still werent as disadvantaged as the ones who go second in this format...
In my opinion, the game is to much influenced by coin flips, but hey, everyone decides to use cards depending on coin flips (Cleffa / Tyrogue, anyone?). If you hate coin flips so much, like I do, just use few cards depending on Coin Flips.
For example, Collector>Dual Ball.
For example, Collector>Dual Ball.