BW/BW2 The Isshu Region Speculation Thread (now with new larger map!)

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What makes me happy looking at the region of isshu is that the majority of the surfing will not be in oceans or seas, but in rivers and lakes, it looks like.
 
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dcwazzy said:
What makes me happy looking at the region of isshu is that the majority of the surfing will not be in oceans or seas, but in rivers and lakes, it looks like.

So true, I never liked surfing forever, just and rivers is fine by me. Also I hope Victory Road is cool.
 
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That would make these games even better. Surfing was so tedious, I had no idea if I was getting closer to land or drifting further out into the sea since it all looked the same. Less sea routes = better in my opinion.
 
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Quasimodo said:
That would make these games even better. Surfing was so tedious, I had no idea if I was getting closer to land or drifting further out into the sea since it all looked the same. Less sea routes = better in my opinion.

yeah i tottaallllly agree, im tired of wasting time and money on max repels just to see where im at on the ocean, im glad theres lakes
 
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Surf in battle is a great move, i just hated actually surfing every 2 seconds a Tentacool would pop up it annoyed me sooo much, ive spent the majority of my money on Repels so i wont have to waste my time fighting tentacools while im surfing, at least lakes and rivers had some sort of variety THAT i could deal with
 
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yeah! i wonder what new pokemon and water pokemon types they will have for the rivers and lakes. i hope its not gonna be the same 2 pokemon and then only in one lake/river theres like 4 pokemon and thats all.
 
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WOW I CAN'T WAIT I CAN'T WAIT for Pokemon Black and White THIS MAP LOOKS AWESOME!!!!!!
 
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ramsey1993 said:
yeah i tottaallllly agree, im tired of wasting time and money on max repels just to see where im at on the ocean, im glad theres lakes

Exactly! Tentacool popping up every 3 steps in the ocean. It just made getting to your destination unnecessarily long. & even if you had repels, you'd end up swimming around aimlessly. At least I did..
 
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Diversity in the water would be great. They need to do this
 
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I wonder if there is some hidden island in Isshu that you can access only after elite 4?

hopefully, there would be many offshore islands you can explore that is not shown on the map!
 
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achernar said:
I wonder if there is some hidden island in Isshu that you can access only after elite 4?

hopefully, there would be many offshore islands you can explore that is not shown on the map!

I don't get why lots of people want that but it's find with me :D.
 
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achernar said:
I wonder if there is some hidden island in Isshu that you can access only after elite 4?

hopefully, there would be many offshore islands you can explore that is not shown on the map!
That would be pretty cool, though they have some islands at the bottom, which are enough for me. :p
 
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Ice Arceus said:
That would be pretty cool, though they have some islands at the bottom, which are enough for me. :p

It is 99% most likely based off New york so
Govisland.jpg


I took a photo of Gov. Island which is South of New York.
they could make a part based off that or they already have and they are making bits of it into islands
 
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Yeah,I believe its based off new york.Watch The Smurfs movie trailer and you'll totally see Hiun City.lol
 
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Okay here's my theory: Hiun city used to be huge (huger than it is now). It used to stretch from the southern ocean all the way to the carnival. However, the legendaries got mad at the filthy greed and lust of the people and destroyed over half of the city, leaving only a desert. This would be a sugar-coated way of representing the terrorist attacks.
 
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PokeBeach Bum said:
Okay here's my theory: Hiun city used to be huge (huger than it is now). It used to stretch from the southern ocean all the way to the carnival. However, the legendaries got mad at the filthy greed and lust of the people and destroyed over half of the city, leaving only a desert. This would be a sugar-coated way of representing the terrorist attacks.

I don't think GameFreak is going to touch that with a ninety-nine and a half foot pole.
 
Just sayin...

I think it would be very cool if it was based off of New York! But honestly it doesn't make much sense to me that it would be.

My brain is telling me it is based upon Shanghai not just for the reasons stated in the video posted earlier in the thread, but also because it is directly West of the island of Kyuushu, the island that Hoenn is based upon. And whether or not Hoenn is able to be visited in Black and White, there seems to be a great amount of expectation that Ruby Sapphire and Emerald should be remade in this, the fifth generation. The connection geographically alone seems to hold it in my opinion, no matter how much I would think it would be cool if it was NYC, Shanghai is also a large port city, and the entire region surrounding it when compared to the Isshu region map is approximately the same size as past pokemon regions explored, where NYC is much much smaller in comparison. Traditionally Pokemon games are not exact copies of their base regions, this is true, but they usually follow them closely enough geographically for Shanghai to be a much more appropriate area for the Isshu region to have been based on.

Pokemon games typically follow asian culture fairly closely, so that puts China in a better position culture-wise to be selected as a foreign region rather than the United States. There have been numerous references to Chinese culture throughout the history of Pokemon, the most notable being Growlith and Arcanine, two Pokemon who are originally native to China. The majority of the new Pokemon seem to exhibit the mashing of East and West that Shanghai itself exhibits as well, with the gothic inspired pokemon being an example of the West and the daruma doll inspired pokemon being an example of the East.

Even the desert juxtaposed right next to Hiun city speaks of Shanghai's own environmental issues, in the way that its rapid growth quickly led to the degradation of the local environment there. In modern times, the most extreme example of this is desertification, where all the water is diverted from one area so that another may flourish and expand, causing the death of the other region. The "Hiun" in Hiun City even means in japanese "bad fortune" or "cloud flying through the sky".

Isshu can mean "one complete year", referring to the four seasons that Isshu experiences, and the Shanghai region is a perfect candidate for this, as it experiences 4 distinct seasons despite being as far south as it is.

Shippou City is named after the 7 treasures of bhuddism, an eastern concept, and can also refer to Cloisonne, originally a chinese art style. Karakusa town is named after a type of artwork from the middle east used in Islam (is it a coincidence that Team Plasma is first encountered here, or am I alone in thinking they had a very crusader-era look look going on?).

Not really looking to argue any of this, was just throwing it out here as food for thought +shrugs+
 
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Garudazei said:
I think it would be very cool if it was based off of New York! But honestly it doesn't make much sense to me that it would be.

My brain is telling me it is based upon Shanghai not just for the reasons stated in the video posted earlier in the thread, but also because it is directly West of the island of Kyuushu, the island that Hoenn is based upon. And whether or not Hoenn is able to be visited in Black and White, there seems to be a great amount of expectation that Ruby Sapphire and Emerald should be remade in this, the fifth generation. The connection geographically alone seems to hold it in my opinion, no matter how much I would think it would be cool if it was NYC, Shanghai is also a large port city, and the entire region surrounding it when compared to the Isshu region map is approximately the same size as past pokemon regions explored, where NYC is much much smaller in comparison. Traditionally Pokemon games are not exact copies of their base regions, this is true, but they usually follow them closely enough geographically for Shanghai to be a much more appropriate area for the Isshu region to have been based on.

Pokemon games typically follow asian culture fairly closely, so that puts China in a better position culture-wise to be selected as a foreign region rather than the United States. There have been numerous references to Chinese culture throughout the history of Pokemon, the most notable being Growlith and Arcanine, two Pokemon who are originally native to China. The majority of the new Pokemon seem to exhibit the mashing of East and West that Shanghai itself exhibits as well, with the gothic inspired pokemon being an example of the West and the daruma doll inspired pokemon being an example of the East.

Even the desert juxtaposed right next to Hiun city speaks of Shanghai's own environmental issues, in the way that its rapid growth quickly led to the degradation of the local environment there. In modern times, the most extreme example of this is desertification, where all the water is diverted from one area so that another may flourish and expand, causing the death of the other region. The "Hiun" in Hiun City even means in japanese "bad fortune" or "cloud flying through the sky".

Isshu can mean "one complete year", referring to the four seasons that Isshu experiences, and the Shanghai region is a perfect candidate for this, as it experiences 4 distinct seasons despite being as far south as it is.

Shippou City is named after the 7 treasures of bhuddism, an eastern concept, and can also refer to Cloisonne, originally a chinese art style. Karakusa town is named after a type of artwork from the middle east used in Islam (is it a coincidence that Team Plasma is first encountered here, or am I alone in thinking they had a very crusader-era look look going on?).

Not really looking to argue any of this, was just throwing it out here as food for thought +shrugs+

You know no matter how many similarities you point out someone else will just find just as many or more similarities for NYC. We won't know until the game comes out.
 
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PokeBeach Bum said:
You know no matter how many similarities you point out someone else will just find just as many or more similarities for NYC. We won't know until the game comes out.

Thats very true! Even after posting I started to see more similarities to American culture in the newly revealed details at least, so its a bit confuzzling. I think the game will be awesome no matter what the setting :) If it is NYC I'm interested to see what sort of regional legends they could draw from to create new pokemon and story settings!
 
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