The Next Rotation

[Frost Mage]

Legendary Treasures just gives us too few resources to hold the format over until more X&Y sets are released. I'd bet a lot of money on BCR-on at this point. The PTCGO switching out booster credits for BCR-on packs and really just everything else points to Boundaries Crossed staying in format, which is great.

 

[Eron]

Legendary Treasures just gives us too few resources to hold the format over until more X&Y sets are released. I'd bet a lot of money on BCR-on at this point. The PTCGO switching out booster credits for BCR-on packs and really just everything else points to Boundaries Crossed staying in format, which is great.

That's what I thought, if they give you BCR-LT packs, then why would they rotate BCR? But, we will be able to know when this new set is released, if we get a Skyla type Supporter and a Tool Scrapper reprint, this means bye bye to BCR.

 

[helti]

I really hope that darkrai can finally see an end to use, as I'm actually sick of it. To be completely honest, I want the game to slow down a bit (Yveltal+Yveltal Ex w/o D patch) we'll probably have BCR-on, which probably means that we're going to see Aegislash... a ton. If they don't reprint Tool scrapper then R.I.P format.

 

[zavtac]

If they don't reprint tool scrapper, Sablye life dew will become a thing. Also guys, don't worry, darkrai only has a minimum 2 worlds to go, and believe me, it will be at both worlds!

 

[Machamp The Champion]

If they don't reprint tool scrapper, Sablye life dew will become a thing. Also guys, don't worry, darkrai only has a minimum 2 worlds to go, and believe me, it will be at both worlds!

Sableye will be rotated next format.

 

[zavtac]

^Who's that retarted zavtac guy. Oh. Wait. Crap..... Well, on another deck, maybe tool drop will become a deck.... Or maybe tool box 4x hard charm. Idk. But the format would be no fun.

Edit: * Maybe tool drop will be a bigger deck, to bring clarification

 

[Eron]

maybe tool drop will become a deck.... Or maybe tool box 4x hard charm. Idk. But the format would be no fun.

1.- Garbotoxin ruins the format.
2.- Toolbox is already a deck.
3.- Hard Charm is almost the same as Eviolite. (I use Hard Charm)

Even though Hard Charm does help, it makes me to only recieve 50 damage of a Darkrai EX with Dark Claw. Actually, the thing there is to know where to put the Tools. Ie. You add a Trubbish a Silver Bangle instead of a Muscle Band, as you do 10 more damage than with the Muscle Band. Or maybe you put an active Sigilyph 4 Hard Charm/Eviolite and it resists a lot.

 

[zavtac]

Yup. That's what I meant. If your opponent doesn't have an attack doing lots (unlikely since Garbodor would be broken, and big Oko decks rely on abilities) or Garbodor, they have pretty much lost. You can just potion off the damage every turn XD.

 

[ShayminTails]

If it'll be BCR-on, it'll hurt my Zoroark Deck a bit due to Foul Play Zoroark, Sableye, Scrapper and Skyla getting hit, however I will adapt with most likely going all Brutal Bash Zoroark instead, as for the trainers, won't N be affected too?

 

[Luispipe8]

If it's BCR-On, Skyla would stay, and N was reprinted as promo BW100 as the reward for Fennekin Season.

 

[ShayminTails]

If it's BCR-On, Skyla would stay, and N was reprinted as promo BW100 as the reward for Fennekin Season.

Thanks for that, but Scrapper's still a minor issue with Garbador, but lucky for me, Darkrai I mainly rely on ability-wise, so if he gets negated, worst case scenario, I'll try to fit in the 2 RH Switches I have from the Red Genesect Collection to go with my Escape Ropes ,

 

[zavtac]

Actually, there is a hard counter to Garbodor which was revealed to be in flashfire. That goodra prevents any tools from being attached to any of your opponents Pokemon. (Ability) This means that if it hits the field before Garbodor, then no abilities can be locked for the rest of the game.... I'm not saying it'll work, but you know, just food for thought....

 

[Eron]

Actually, there is a hard counter to Garbodor which was revealed to be in flashfire. That goodra prevents any tools from being attached to any of your opponents Pokemon. (Ability) This means that if it hits the field before Garbodor, then no abilities can be locked for the rest of the game.... I'm not saying it'll work, but you know, just food for thought....

But.... no...
1.-Why do people use Garbotoxin with Toolbox?
2.- No, Goodra's ability gets cancelled by Garbotoxin. I just saw that you need to put a Tool.

 

[Alli]

Actually, there is a hard counter to Garbodor which was revealed to be in flashfire. That goodra prevents any tools from being attached to any of your opponents Pokemon. (Ability) This means that if it hits the field before Garbodor, then no abilities can be locked for the rest of the game.... I'm not saying it'll work, but you know, just food for thought....

But.... no...
1.-Why do people use Garbotoxin with Toolbox?
2.- No, Goodra's ability gets cancelled by Garbotoxin.

As I understand it, Goodra's ability stops both players from playing Tools from their hands, which means that if you have a Goodra in play, and then someone tries to attach a Tool to Garbodor they won't be allowed.

 

[Eron]

But.... no...
1.-Why do people use Garbotoxin with Toolbox?
2.- No, Goodra's ability gets cancelled by Garbotoxin.

As I understand it, Goodra's ability stops both players from playing Tools from their hands, which means that if you have a Goodra in play, and then someone tries to attach a Tool to Garbodor they won't be allowed.

Oh wait... you need to put a tool into Garbodor? Then zavtac is right.

 

[zavtac]

Yes people, you do need to put a tool on Garbodor for it to work, otherwise that card would be broken. Goodras ability stops the opponent putting a tool on anything. Also, a goodra tech would give you an autowin on tool drop, stop the opponent playing that g-booster, and prevent cards like lugia from hitting their numbers.... Hmm.

 

[Cortel II]

Actually, there is a hard counter to Garbodor which was revealed to be in flashfire. That goodra prevents any tools from being attached to any of your opponents Pokemon. (Ability) This means that if it hits the field before Garbodor, then no abilities can be locked for the rest of the game.... I'm not saying it'll work, but you know, just food for thought....

Yes people, you do need to put a tool on Garbodor for it to work, otherwise that card would be broken. Goodras ability stops the opponent putting a tool on anything. Also, a goodra tech would give you an autowin on tool drop, stop the opponent playing that g-booster, and prevent cards like lugia from hitting their numbers.... Hmm.

The problem is that goodra is a Stage 2 pokemon so it is a lot more difficult to get into play then garbodor with a tool, cause as soon as the opponent sees the base pokemon for goodra he'll just throw down a trubbish with a tool then it doesn't matter how long it takes to get garbodor cause the tool is already on your opponents pokemon.

A better counter has been revealed in Flashfire. Lysandre. a catcher effect that gets around item lock and guarantees the effect to pull garbodor to the active slot and allow you to knock it out. With a lot more pokemon being able to hit that 100 damage (between base damage and/or muscle band) Garbordor will be powerful, but not broken.

 

[helti]

Actually, there is a hard counter to Garbodor which was revealed to be in flashfire. That goodra prevents any tools from being attached to any of your opponents Pokemon. (Ability) This means that if it hits the field before Garbodor, then no abilities can be locked for the rest of the game.... I'm not saying it'll work, but you know, just food for thought....

Yes people, you do need to put a tool on Garbodor for it to work, otherwise that card would be broken. Goodras ability stops the opponent putting a tool on anything. Also, a goodra tech would give you an autowin on tool drop, stop the opponent playing that g-booster, and prevent cards like lugia from hitting their numbers.... Hmm.

The problem is that goodra is a Stage 2 pokemon so it is a lot more difficult to get into play then garbodor with a tool, cause as soon as the opponent sees the base pokemon for goodra he'll just throw down a trubbish with a tool then it doesn't matter how long it takes to get garbodor cause the tool is already on your opponents pokemon.

A better counter has been revealed in Flashfire. Lysandre. a catcher effect that gets around item lock and guarantees the effect to pull garbodor to the active slot and allow you to knock it out. With a lot more pokemon being able to hit that 100 damage (between base damage and/or muscle band) Garbordor will be powerful, but not broken.

I think decks that are running stage 2's can run Goodra just as well as lysandre, as they might not need to waste time knocking out a pokemon for 1 prize. However, doubt it's so easy when Tier 1 decks are currently already running 2 stage 2's (Pigs) or 1 stage 2 and 1 stage 1's (Turtle). All depends on the people that build the decks though.

 

[helti]

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This on Pokemon.com. I couldn't press past Boundaries crossed, I think they skipped out on not making it obvious, because now it is really obvious.

 

[AlexanderTheAwesome]

Guys, TPCI may be dumb, but they aren't stupid. If they rotate DRX they will reprint Tool Scrapper. For example, they randomly reprinted switch in BCR right before the rotation. Also, they reprinted Enrgy Switch in LTR so they actually know they aren't THAT out of it.