I feel Darkrai/Darkrai should be tier 2 and I’d add Quad Wobbufett and Quad Sylveon under tier 3#
Discussion Tier List for 2018 Rotation
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I'm guessing that the Quad Wob deck is referring to the new Wob out of BUS that does 50 times retreat cost. I think this is a sleeper deck no one is talking about. Somebody's going to come up with a decklist that will make this work. It's not inconceivable that this won't OHKO everything. Generally speaking, the more HP the higher your retreat cost is. Take a look at your tier list - with a Dugtrio on the bench and a Mount Lanakila in play, I think it one shots everything on that list.
I also think that some combination of Promo Koko, Necrozma, Weavile, Espeon EX and others will combine in a spread damage deck that will be effective as well.
And I'm going to try Houndoom EX, Charizard GX, Rhyperior even though I don't think it's going to work but the possibility is there.
Oh and I think somebody is going to come up with a good list for Quad Wob (BUS) that will be at least competitive... if not really good.
And I'm going to try Houndoom EX, Charizard GX, Rhyperior even though I don't think it's going to work but the possibility is there.
Oh and I think somebody is going to come up with a good list for Quad Wob (BUS) that will be at least competitive... if not really good.
Nope I was talking about GEN Wob it’s basically 4 Wobb 56 Disruption Trainers look it up
The thing is that all decks lose VS Seeker.
Less items = less damage.
Garbodor won't be as viable next format.
Even Espeon takes a hit. Guzma will switch out of confusion, making the whole strategy less powerful
I'm very doubtful that many decks will even tech Giratina Promo into their deck list, aside from decks that have the weakness to Greninja like Volcanion. Giratina Promo only counters 2 decks in the meta Greninja and Zoroark, so for most decks it definitely isn't worth putting in. Especially because Greninja may be good, but it's not Night march or Seismitoad good, both of which were decks people ran multiple cards to counter due to their popularity.
Honestly, I love the idea of being able to pull off the triple Giant Water Shuriken but it just doesn't work in practice. After making a proxy Greninja deck including Burning Shadows and post-rotation edits, I simply found it nearly impossible to do playtesting with friends. Even with 4 Greninja BREAK's in the deck list it's simply requires too much setup.
I think greninja will have times of greatness though out next season. Greninja will do well at a event, then everyone will tech a giratina, but then once it is not being seen, giratina promos will disapper and it will do well again. The cycle will repeat.
Not to mention GUR can help with Brooklet hill replacing rough seas as the go to stadium, filling dive balls place. And Guzma doesn't disrupt you as much with Manaphy in the mix
Alolan Ninetales is already a good deck in this current meta. It doesn't lose anything that no one else is losing. It gains baby Alolan Ninetales which has an ability that doesn't allow it to take damage from the attacks of EX or GX pokemon, and without Hex Maniac in the format this ability is very powerful. The only downside is Metagross GX has also become a good deck. This is why I personally think this deck is a tier 1 deck, tell me if I should make any changes to the list.
Greninja loses some useful cards but I think, random jank losses aside, it might end up being the strongest deck in the immediate post rotation meta. Mostly because I see the next big meta triangle being Gardevoir < Metagross < Volcanion and Greninja does well against all of those decks.