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TyramiBuzz & krookodile deck

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foxerish

Aspiring Trainer
Member
Hi there guys!
Here's my new deck.

Pokemon: 24
3-2-3 Tyranitar
2-2 Mandibuzz
2-2 Liepard
2-2 Zoroark
1 Cleffa
1 Pichu
2 Tornadus

T/S/S: 22
1 Flower Shop Lady
2 Junk Arm
3 Pokemon Catcher
2 Rocky Helmet
3 Pokemon Collector
3 Pokemon Communication
3 Professor Oak's New Theory
2 Rare Candy
3 Switch

Energy: 14
6 {D}
4 {D} (special)
4 {C}{C}

I've made a few changes to my deck:
First, I took your suggestion and took out Krookodile line. I also put 4 Rocky Helmet to put more damage on the opponent's active pokemon.
In the pokemon section I put a 2-2 Liepard line, which is like Krookodile line but better because it is a stage 1 pokemon and not stage 2, and it uses the same type of energy like the rest of this deck

Comments and suggestions are greatly appreciated! By the way, I would like if you explain shortly about your choice(s) :)
 
I'm not sure I see the Synergy between T-Tar Prime, Mandibuzz, and especially Krookodile. T-Tar and Mandibuzz have some decent synergy being dark pokemon but one is a bench hitter and the other is a power attacker. Krookodile runs a completely different energy line and just doesn't seem to fit the deck.
 
I think you might need to add 1-2 PETM and that you do not need that many collectors because Pichu gets most of the basics for you while setting up.
 
Brendan said:
I'm not sure I see the Synergy between T-Tar Prime, Mandibuzz, and especially Krookodile. T-Tar and Mandibuzz have some decent synergy being dark pokemon but one is a bench hitter and the other is a power attacker. Krookodile runs a completely different energy line and just doesn't seem to fit the deck.
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T-Tar spreads for {D}, Mandibuzz hits spreaded Pokés for {D}, Max Potion heals off all damage. It's a Tier 2 deck, but the version I pilot has taken down multiple city and regional-winning decks here in Florida (at league, I rar T-Tar/Hydreigon for cities and it wasn't nearly as consistent as I'd hoped).

As for Krook... I would just stick with T-Tar, it's downright better. Wait for Dark Rush, when we get an AMAZING Krookodile that hits for 40 times the number of prizes you've taken. Change your T-Tar lines and add more T/S/S for better consistency. Oh, and add 3-4 Max Potion. Hardly anything can take out a T-Tar in 1 hit, aside from fighting Pokés obviously, and you'll only be doing the spread attack, so no big deal. As for techs, I'd throw in a 1-1 Darkrai-Cresselia LEGEND so you can move damage on to a few of their Pokémon for big knockouts. Just wait for EX'S, where you can move 170 on to one for a nice 2 prizes :D
 
I have played a few games with this deck and Krookodile is doing pretty well for late game because it can knock out Zekrom/Reshiram/Other pokemon withs high HP (enen LEGENDS) after T-Tar attacked the opponent's bench. That's how you can get rid of them after they become the opponent's active pokemon Before they do any more damage.
 
What do you suggest to take out for Zoroark?
Can you please explain how will it be a good tech for this deck?
 
foxerish said:
What do you suggest to take out for Zoroark?
Can you please explain how will it be a good tech for this deck?
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Take out a vulaby, basic dark, Elm's, and twins for 2-2 Zoroark.

It can quickly be set up and can one shot Reshiram and Zekrom
 
Thanks! *Edit my deck*
I will ry out the deck now and let you know how it went.

I also took out 1 Sage's Training and added 1 {C}{C}
 
Krookodile is not a good card, for any deck really.

Eviolite is too popular to make it seem useable. To say that it will OHKO dragons and the like, isn't really the case. Maybe Reshiram because most decks that use it don't use Eviolites. Not only that, it takes a huge energy investment (2 rainbow and a DCE) which for the amount of damage it deals (to itself from the rainbow energy damage and the amount of damage output it has) it's not worth it. You'd have better chances using straight T-tar and start early spread, using Mandibuzz to finish up whatever TTar can't.

Consider a deck that is more like this.

4-2-4 T-Tar
2-2 Mandibuzz
2-2 Weavile (or Zoroark though its not as good as it used to, might benefit in a deck like this)
2 Kyurem/Reshiram
1 Cleffa

Twins
Rare Candy
Max Potion
Rocky Helmet
Junk Arm
Catcher
Defender
Seeker

Rough list, but the idea you had with your deck is still there, you tank with TTar for as long as possible using Max Potions, Defenders and Junk Arms. It might be difficult to get Manibuzz into play without it being catcher'ed and killed once it hits the board, more so when it's weak to a common type in the format and doesn't have high HP anyway. But should you get it into play, you can use it to take down the bench sitters that are part of the engine to the opposing deck. (Eelectrik or Magnezone, Ninetails, etc) Use at your own discretion. The Weavile can provide mild disruption, benefits off of Seeker and Sneasel is a huge plus with the free retreat dark type.

The Kyurem work pretty well with this deck because of the damage that T-Tar puts onto it. There isn't anything big in the meta that will resist Water so he can get some nice damage going through. However with Cobalion being a popular pokemon still, consider Reshiram instead because it allows you to hit Cobalion with less damage counters on the Reshiram.

The reason why I think something like this is a lot better than what you've posted is because it's a lot simpler. By removing Krookodile, you can focus more of your resources to setting up TTar and Mandibuzz which can definitely add up in the end with the amount of pressure a turn 2 TTar has on any opponent.
 
I don't want to sound too newbie but I'd REALLY like if you can arragne me a full decklist with Kyurem and Zoroark. It can help me ALOT :)
 
I agree that krookodile isn't really a great attacker. I don't really know any decks with Kyurem and zoroark. The deck on the thread ZBC deck for beginner. That is about the only deck I know that has Kyurem and zoroark.
 
Something like this roughly, but I still see this falling victim to a lot of things. Eviolites will definitely hurt this deck since TTar will deal 0 damage to those pokemon with them. I still don't see the want to use Zoroark in this deck, but to be honest, he's probably better than Mandibuzz.

Pokemon
Total 15

3-2-3 Tyranitar Prime
2-2 Zoroark
2 Kyurem/Reshiram
1 Cleffa

TSS
Total 33

3 Pokemon Collector
4 Professor Oak's New Theory
2 Sage's Training
3 Professor Juniper
3 Rare Candy
4 Junk Arm
2 Max Potion
2 Defender
2 Pokemon Catcher
4 Pokemon Communication
2 Rocky Helmet
1 PokeGear 3.0

Energy
Total 12

4 SP Dark
4 Regular Dark
4 DCE

Jirachi said:
I agree that krookodile isn't really a great attacker. I don't really know any decks with Kyurem and zoroark. The deck on the thread ZBC deck for beginner. That is about the only deck I know that has Kyurem and zoroark.
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I agree there. If Zoroark's purpose is only to counter dragons, I'd rather play dragons that can hit for weakness because they're faster, easier to set up and take up less deck space than Zoroark. He's not seen quite as often anymore because in order for him to return KOs to the dragons, you need plus powers/SP Darks to negate the commonly used Eviolite that Zekrom and not as commonly Reshiram run.
 
Well, you might as well make a Kyugatr deck with Zoroark as a tech because after spreading with Kyurem, you can attack with feraligater, which works really well in that case.
 
That takes more effort to maintain because now the stage two is a liability if he gets catcher'ed out. Also keep in mind that with Magnezone as popular as it is, it will take three energies to lost burn a Feraligatr compared to the four it takes to knock out a Tyranitar.

By relying less on something like Feraligatr, it makes it more difficult for your opponent to shoot around your main attacker that is a lot harder to kill. With Feraligatr sitting on the bench, he can be catcher'ed out and stalled behind or knocked out which really ruins Kyurem. Between the Defenders, Max Potions and the low cost to attack for Tyranitar, if you can't OHKO him, he will be around for quite some time.
 
True, but spreading with tyranitar prime also damages your own pokemon. You could add a bellosum or a serperior to the tyranitar deck list.
 
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