UFOs, anyone?

[Shining Raikou]

RE: UFOs anyone?

Maybe the aliens have superadvanced technology and can become invisible to watch us! You never know, an alien might be watching you sleep at night! BWAHAHAHAHAH

 

[Pokémaniac]

RE: UFOs anyone?

Aliens may exist or may not its what God created and we don't know for sure, it doesnt say in the holy books that there was any other beings besides humans so there isnt reason to believe otherwise but yet again it doesnt say they don't exist. In my opinion probably not, the Earth according to science is almost perfect and all the things that make it perfect was pure 'luck' so I cant see anything else in the universe having the same luck as us

And once again a controversial conversation turned to religion.

 

[Clefspeare]

RE: UFOs anyone?

Aliens may exist or may not its what God created and we don't know for sure, it doesnt say in the holy books that there was any other beings besides humans so there isnt reason to believe otherwise but yet again it doesnt say they don't exist. In my opinion probably not, the Earth according to science is almost perfect and all the things that make it perfect was pure 'luck' so I cant see anything else in the universe having the same luck as us

I can see that in some way or another, you are a creationalist. That said, I am one too. What I'm about to say may really freak some of you out.

Alien facts
- All Alien abductions have happened to people who have dabbled in the occult.
- This means anywhere from taking your horoscopes seriously to having seances.
- I belive in God. That also means I belive in the Bible.
- In the Bible there are many accounts of Jesus driving out demons.
- That's right, demons.{D}
- I'm not going to go into a big debate about Creation Vs. Evolution.
- But either way, demons are, in my opinion, responsible for ALL alien abductions.
- I'm not saying that if you don't do occult stuff, you've never seen a UFO.
- UFOs are, once again, unidentified.

You probably won't belive what I just said, but this is my opinion, and my opinion only.

 

[red blastoise]

RE: UFOs anyone?

what if we go out from the evolution theory perspective, it would mean that if there where bacteria on mars, or any other planet, they will eventually grow, and fit with the climate there. so maybe there aren't any aliens "yet". or they where there but they where executed by the explosion of their sun, just as ours is going to explode in hundreds of millions of years. which could be a decent reson why it's so cold on mars.

as i'm sure they would visit us and try to be friends and such if they exist.

BTW, if anyone uses this to get rich, i want at least 60% xD


and to clefspeare, i don't think those are all facts, do you?

 

[Pokémaniac]

RE: UFOs anyone?

Alien facts
1 All Alien abductions have happened to people who have dabbled in the occult.

2 But either way, demons are, in my opinion, responsible for ALL alien abductions.

1. I would love to se your source.

2. Nice fact.

 

[Soul]

RE: UFOs anyone?

I never have and never will.
They do not exist, same for aliens.
That is my opinion.[/align]

Well, the galaxy is BIG so anywhere have to be something...

 

[Ka$h Money]

RE: UFOs anyone?

what if we go out from the evolution theory perspective, it would mean that if there where bacteria on mars, or any other planet, they will eventually grow, and fit with the climate there. so maybe there aren't any aliens "yet". or they where there but they where executed by the explosion of their sun, just as ours is going to explode in hundreds of millions of years. which could be a decent reson why it's so cold on mars.

as I'm sure they would visit us and try to be friends and such if they exist.

BTW, if anyone uses this to get rich, I want at least 60% xD


and to clefspeare, I don't think those are all facts, do you?

Well im sorry to say but the evelution theory is flawed, how can a sterile enviroment create a single celled organism in the first place? Im thinking that the same will apply for mars since in scientific terms we got all the right reactions all the right balances for everything on Earth to have worked, also it is easy to come to the conclusion that many Universe's would have had to have been made for the Earth to be able to support life.


Aliens are not real, people see things, hullucinations and so on

 

[red blastoise]

RE: UFOs anyone?

what if we go out from the evolution theory perspective, it would mean that if there where bacteria on mars, or any other planet, they will eventually grow, and fit with the climate there. so maybe there aren't any aliens "yet". or they where there but they where executed by the explosion of their sun, just as ours is going to explode in hundreds of millions of years. which could be a decent reson why it's so cold on mars.

as I'm sure they would visit us and try to be friends and such if they exist.

BTW, if anyone uses this to get rich, I want at least 60% xD


and to clefspeare, I don't think those are all facts, do you?

Well im sorry to say but the evelution theory is flawed, how can a sterile enviroment create a single celled organism in the first place? Im thinking that the same will apply for mars since in scientific terms we got all the right reactions all the right balances for everything on Earth to have worked, also it is easy to come to the conclusion that many Universe's would have had to have been made for the Earth to be able to support life.


Aliens are not real, people see things, hullucinations and so on

aha, a sterile envoirment can't, but bringing in the other theory (the big bang theory) it wasn't a sterile envoirment.

that also bust your argumment about mars.
and to the 2nd one, i don't think earth wouldn't exist if we wouldn't have mars (both the candy bar, the mythological god, AND he planet)

and to your last scentence:
all hallicunations are based on real things example:
dragons, their just like usual lizards, only bigger and they have wings.
elfs are based on smaller elves, which are based on fireflys.
i, i'm based on the usual guys you see, only your fantasys make me even cooler ;]

just joking on the last onexD

 

[Ka$h Money]

RE: UFOs anyone?

what if we go out from the evolution theory perspective, it would mean that if there where bacteria on mars, or any other planet, they will eventually grow, and fit with the climate there. so maybe there aren't any aliens "yet". or they where there but they where executed by the explosion of their sun, just as ours is going to explode in hundreds of millions of years. which could be a decent reson why it's so cold on mars.

as I'm sure they would visit us and try to be friends and such if they exist.

BTW, if anyone uses this to get rich, I want at least 60% xD


and to clefspeare, I don't think those are all facts, do you?

Well im sorry to say but the evelution theory is flawed, how can a sterile enviroment create a single celled organism in the first place? Im thinking that the same will apply for mars since in scientific terms we got all the right reactions all the right balances for everything on Earth to have worked, also it is easy to come to the conclusion that many Universe's would have had to have been made for the Earth to be able to support life.


Aliens are not real, people see things, hullucinations and so on

aha, a sterile envoirment can't, but bringing in the other theory (the big bang theory) it wasn't a sterile envoirment.

that also bust your argumment about mars.
and to the 2nd one, I don't think earth wouldn't exist if we wouldn't have mars (both the candy bar, the mythological god, AND he planet)

and to your last scentence:
all hallicunations are based on real things example:
dragons, their just like usual lizards, only bigger and they have wings.
elfs are based on smaller elves, which are based on fireflys.
I, I'm based on the usual guys you see, only your fantasys make me even cooler ;]

just joking on the last onexD

How can you say the Earth wasnt a sterile enviroment? there was no water, no oxygen only hydrogen and lava so I cant see anything growing in that enviroment at all.

Also how can something pop out of nowhere everything has a beginning like everyone's mother is their beginning and so is yours

Also I kinda dont understand how the Big bang theory works :S there is an explosion which isnt caused by anything but manages to form the 'perfect' enviroment for the unverse to exist. See it kinda controdicts it self.

Also your hallucination theory is true, so im thinking that someone saw a disk but mistook it for a spaceship, they saw a skeleton of an ancient tribe who enlarged their heads as it was a part of their religion and immediatly it is proof of aliens.

 

[Heavenly Spoon]

RE: UFOs anyone?

I'd like to quote myself on alien spaceships here:

In all seriousness, though, the odds of there being aliens are one in a billion.

1st of all, there would need to be life outside of this planet.
2nd of all, this life would have to be intelligent.
3th of all, this life would have to be able to build spaceships.
4th of all, these ships would have to be able to reach us.
5th of all, they would have to specifically come to this planet out of all other planets in the galaxy.
6th of all, these spaceships would have to be able to enter our atmosphere, resist our air pressure and stuff.
7th of all, if they'd leave their spaceships, they would have to have devices which would allow them to breathe here and again they would have to be able to adapt to our air pressure, gravity and other stuff.

And you say that this all has happened, and they came here just to fly around a bit, scare a few cows, and fly away again?

I'm quite the mathematical person

I know #1 seems quite likely, but don't forget that it'd have to be pretty close to our planet (at least the same galaxy, and even then, "warping" and "teleporting" are very obscure and on a large scale pretty impossible or at least VERY advanced scientific procedures, and for most planets, it would take years even if they'd be travelling at the speed of light (which would kill anything with a mass anyway))

And this list is probably everything but complete, but it should show you that the odds of this happening are very small, especially in our lifetime. I don't care about obscure "evidence", maths doesn't lie, and concrete scientifically correct evidence is the only evidence I accept, which sadly for the believers, does not exist.

And to all the "UFO means unidentified flying object" people, stop trying to act smart, seriously...

Anyhow, this was an old thread about pretty much the same subject, for anyone who cares:
http://www.pokebeach.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=46348&pid=875600#pid875600

 

[~Magma King~]

RE: UFOs anyone?

Nothing created God either, apparently. The big bang theory is perfectly plausible.
It's also known two particles could form from nothing or something like that.

And UFOs don't exist. Probably not near us anyway. And they sure as hell wouldn't go here.

 

[infmach]

RE: UFOs anyone?

well, I am pretty sure Spoons is an alien. If not, then all the investigation will be in the trash.

 

[Pokémaniac]

RE: UFOs anyone?

@kashmaster- At some point somewhere something must have come out of nothing for some reason. So saying that the evolution theory couldn't of happened is just ignorant. I mean, we're here right? Even if we are all some crazy man's hallucination, that man must be there, or the man hallucinating him! No matter what you say, we're here, and something came out of nowhere.

 

[raichupika33]

RE: UFOs anyone?

Nothing created God either, apparently. The big bang theory is perfectly plausible.
It's also known two particles could form from nothing or something like that.

And UFOs don't exist. Probably not near us anyway. And they sure as heck wouldn't go here.

Yes. My science class learnt this in Chemistry, I think a load of atoms causing pressure released the big bang.

 

[bacon]

RE: UFOs anyone?

While it is true that some particles can spontaneously pop in and out of existence, they require a space to do this in. So where did the space come from? Before the big bang, there was nothing: no matter, no space, no time... and when you think about it, no laws of physics for which things should obey.

A cute little theory is that the small men with big grey heads are not Aliens at all, but humans from the future visiting the past. As a species, we have not stopped evolving, and I would actually expect that humans would evolve into something not unlike the Greys: two arms, two legs, larger brain, better eyes, and a less muscular body (in the future world of technology I would imagine that machines would do all the physical work). This does assume that time travel is possible and like all theories to do with Aliens is a longshot, but I actually think it is the most plausable explanation outside of "people are making it up lol".

 

[Clefspeare]

RE: UFOs anyone?

I can see that in some way or another, you are a creationalist. That said, I am one too. What I'm about to say may really freak some of you out.

Alien facts
- most Alien abductions have happened to people who have dabbled in the occult.
- This means anywhere from taking your horoscopes seriously to having seances.
- I belive in God. That also means I belive in the Bible.
- In the Bible there are many accounts of Jesus driving out demons.
- That's right, demons.{D}
- I'm not going to go into a big debate about Creation Vs. Evolution.
- But either way, demons are, in my opinion, responsible for most alien abductions.
- I'm not saying that if you don't do occult stuff, you've never seen a UFO.
- UFOs are, once again, unidentified.

You probably won't belive what I just said, but this is my opinion, and my opinion only.

I had forgotten I had said "facts"

My source was an awesome book series called Forbidden Doors.
I forgot most of it though.
BUT, I found an awesome article that explains it. Copy and paste this link into your browser\/

http://ezinearticles.com/?Leading-UFO-Researchers-Confirm-Christian-View&id=1260229

 

[Ka$h Money]

RE: UFOs anyone?

@kashmaster- At some point somewhere something must have come out of nothing for some reason. So saying that the evolution theory couldn't of happened is just ignorant. I mean, we're here right? Even if we are all some crazy man's hallucination, that man must be there, or the man hallucinating him! No matter what you say, we're here, and something came out of nowhere.

But how can something come out of nothing science specifically states that everything has a beginning and what was ours? Its hard to believe that a cell popped out of nowhere.

Also you really cant call me ignorant in my beliefs, I could say your ignorant in your beliefs.


Also to everyone here I am a grade A* student so I do know what im talking about, I am stufying medicine so I took it upon myself to learn everything about science and these 2 theories just dont add up, its guess work nothing evidence based.

I would only believe something if someone gave me evidence and nobody can cause it never happened

 

[red blastoise]

RE: UFOs anyone?

what if we go out from the evolution theory perspective, it would mean that if there where bacteria on mars, or any other planet, they will eventually grow, and fit with the climate there. so maybe there aren't any aliens "yet". or they where there but they where executed by the explosion of their sun, just as ours is going to explode in hundreds of millions of years. which could be a decent reson why it's so cold on mars.

as I'm sure they would visit us and try to be friends and such if they exist.

BTW, if anyone uses this to get rich, I want at least 60% xD


and to clefspeare, I don't think those are all facts, do you?

Well im sorry to say but the evelution theory is flawed, how can a sterile enviroment create a single celled organism in the first place? Im thinking that the same will apply for mars since in scientific terms we got all the right reactions all the right balances for everything on Earth to have worked, also it is easy to come to the conclusion that many Universe's would have had to have been made for the Earth to be able to support life.


Aliens are not real, people see things, hullucinations and so on

aha, a sterile envoirment can't, but bringing in the other theory (the big bang theory) it wasn't a sterile envoirment.

that also bust your argumment about mars.
and to the 2nd one, I don't think earth wouldn't exist if we wouldn't have mars (both the candy bar, the mythological god, AND he planet)

and to your last scentence:
all hallicunations are based on real things example:
dragons, their just like usual lizards, only bigger and they have wings.
elfs are based on smaller elves, which are based on fireflys.
I, I'm based on the usual guys you see, only your fantasys make me even cooler ;]

just joking on the last onexD

How can you say the Earth wasnt a sterile enviroment? there was no water, no oxygen only hydrogen and lava so I cant see anything growing in that enviroment at all. and lava is... oh, yeah, burning stone, what do you need to burn something, fire, what do you need for fire...oxygen , so i think there must be oxygen.
you don't know if there was no water, it's just a bluf, not?
i think magma spoils the air also, and i don't know what hydrogen is, so i'm not argumenting that xD

besides if there was nothing, how are we here now then?

Also how can something pop out of nowhere everything has a beginning like everyone's mother is their beginning and so is yours
nothing popped out of nowhere, big bang created a planet, on which where bacteria, those "evolved" slowly into different looking creatures, all based on their envoirment.
actually, i'm beginning earlier, in the seedcels of my father.


Also I kinda don't understand how the Big bang theory works :S there is an explosion which isnt caused by anything but manages to form the 'perfect' enviroment for the unverse to exist. See it kinda controdicts it self.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang_theory this explains it better the i ever could.

Also your hallucination theory is true, so im thinking that someone saw a disk but mistook it for a spaceship, they saw a skeleton of an ancient tribe who enlarged their heads as it was a part of their religion and immediatly it is proof of aliens.
this is even more flawed the you had thinked the evolution theory and big bang theory where.

also, if it wasn't the big bang creating the universe, what was it?




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EDIT: just saw your 2nd post...

@kashmaster- At some point somewhere something must have come out of nothing for some reason. So saying that the evolution theory couldn't of happened is just ignorant. I mean, we're here right? Even if we are all some crazy man's hallucination, that man must be there, or the man hallucinating him! No matter what you say, we're here, and something came out of nowhere.

But how can something come out of nothing science specifically states that everything has a beginning and what was ours? Its hard to believe that a cell popped out of nowhere.

Exactley our point, how could god do that?

Also you really cant call me ignorant in my beliefs, I could say your ignorant in your beliefs.

yes he can, maybe he isn't right, but he can call you that, just as good as you call him that.exept, it isn't a belief for him i think

Also to everyone here I am a grade A* student so I do know what im talking about, I am stufying medicine so I took it upon myself to learn everything about science and these 2 theories just don't add up, its guess work nothing evidence based.

this isn't about those theories, either one of them could make it that aliens exist, and Thats the topic here

I would only believe something if someone gave me evidence and nobody can cause it never happened


which is what you believe, and i'm not saying you can't.
there is a belief, in which it centers either the evolution theory or the big bang theory, so saying that those never happened, is just like saying god doesn't exist. only in another belief.

i will give you evidence, as soon as you give me evidence of there being a god, in fact, i have evidence there is no god

just sayin'

 

[DogMaster40]

RE: UFOs anyone?

I don't get why people are saying aliens don't exist. The universe is infinite, and somewhere, it seems like there should be other planets that can support life. It doesn't make sense that, out of all the billions of planets that are bound to exist in the universe, Earth is the only one that can support life. The UFO's themselves, though? I can't really say I believe that aliens would randomly fly around this planet without trying to make contact. So, I'd say most UFO sightings are false, whether the witness knows it or not.

 

[Mew the source of all]

RE: UFOs anyone?

If a person has an opinion, there must be others with the same opinion. If you think about it the same can be said about Earth. If Earth has life distant planet's probably do as well. As for people seeing aliens, probably just their imagination, or a UFO entering hyperspace. (I personally like the idea Stargate has regarding aliens.)