WdIF of 2009?
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I like Glistomb and it has done quite well at cities one of the BDIFs not one of the WDIFs. One letter makes a difference.
Yeah the same w/ Gengar, get over it works, especially w/ a high SP Area, slows them down by at LEAST a turn which makes them even speed.
@Seth- What are it's fantastic matchups? Like I said as long as they g the right things and play smart with their trainers there's abosolutely nothing you can do. You max out at 30 a turn. Not to mention all the different ways of getting around fainting spell
WailmerMan said:
Gengar is one of the most solid pokemon in the format. I can dominate just about any deck that has more than one power, because people don't usually put 2 G's in their deck. Plus dont' forget about poltergeist. If you get set up fast enough you can force them to use their draw power to get set up, and meanwhile make them fill up their hand with T/S/S.
And now with level down it can counter lots of bench sitter strategies like Groundform X and Gyarados w/ floatzel X.
Also, there aren't a lot of good ways to get around fainting spell unless it is built into your deck. Since they can level up, you can't just do 100 damage and psychic restore next turn. And they might have a nidoqueen anyway.
Gyrados doesn't play Flotzel X. At least good ones don't.
Whatever, Gengar can level down the annoying X you are fighting, Gengar can level down the Heatran or Darkrai or Shaymin or whatever on your bench. Its such a solid card WailmerMan, you cant seem to realize that. Mother Gengar is a monster of a deck.
I prefer Mother Gengar w/out the X but I find the X to be useful.
Also Kingdra might play Floatzel X but Gyarados doesn't
Also Kingdra might play Floatzel X but Gyarados doesn't
no metagame decks use bench-sit lv x's. And AEN, any deck that has a main attacker (or something that's not claydol) with a pokepower uses 2 unown g. Poltergeist isn't hard to counter, just waste trainers when you need to. And to get around fainting spell you can use skuntank g, crobat g, uxie, shuppet (banette can be used as a mewtwo counter), etc. Another thing: you say it's a smart play: then why aren't top players running it? How many gengars were in worlds top cut for masters? Very little. Lafontes are easily the best in the game, yet do you see them running it? Professionals like Yamato, Itagaki, never play it.
UPDATE: WE NOW HAVE A POLL
True but Gengar has gotten A LOT of top cuts, I believe it was number one in that department it definitely isn't the WDIF.
K, your just being an ass now. Mother Gengar is a good deck, it has won PLENTY of tourneys. Even in masters. So...
I protest the fact that fossil decks are bad. And at the very least, they are not so bad they they needed to be added to the poll twice. I personally enjoy using my Fossil deck and found it more potent then I expected and people are always surprised at how easily Omastar is able to do 120+ damage. To be fair, I am still working out a few kinks in the deck, but it is not anywhere close to the worst deck in the format.
whoops, please ignore the 2nd fossils everyone, thanksRB Golbat said:
WailmerMan said:
What if one is prized or already knocked out? You can only protect one pokemon. Besides, some decks like SP variants have powers on every pokemon.
WailmerMan said:
If you have duplicate stadiums or multiple supporters in your hand you can't get rid of them. Unless you were lucky enough to have already gotten a claydol set up.
Uxie shuppet and crobat G aren't good counters for the reason I just said. The level X increases their hit points which keeps you from getting the knock out after the first calculated hit. You'll have to run plus powers or expert belts, which are hard to find in a pinch sometimes. Skuntank G is hard to set up because you also need a stadium, and it is easily countered by nidoqueen.
WailmerMan said:
I didn't say that, I just said Gengar is one of the most solid pokemon in the game. I'm talking about the pokemon, not the deck.
Any grass deck(Tangrowth and Sceptile) really uses Shaymin. So that helps. Anyways, Gengar is just a good card. It has GREAT snipe, and goes good w/ Spiritomb for that trainer poltergeist deal. So...
Seth1789110 said:
Where is it winning? Hmm? It won because people were stupid about it. Where's my proof? Lets look at nationals. Gengar didn't do squat. Same with worlds. It's going to win a few BR's here and there, but it's not going to consistently win in good areas. It's a bad card, and highly luck based.