Finished Werewolf XI "Revenge of the Nerds" - Nerds Win
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RE: Werewolf XI "Revenge of the Nerds" - Day 3 End 11/29/2011 7AM GMT+8
Thats true. You aren't the jock head.
You still could be a regular jock though. When I was a Werewolf a couple games back if you weren't the head you weren't allowed to PM the kill in. I doubt RB changed that. SR could have just not responded to any of the jock PM stuff.
I'm probably gonna vote pokenerd/Argetlam by the end of the day, but I'll wait to see other's thoughts.
Argetlam said:Okay.
I would like to refute the theory that Shining Raikou, and thus me, was the Jock Head. My reason for this is that at the beginning of night 1, Shining Raikou was listed as an inactive. However, when Night 1 ended, the jocks attempted a kill (TDL). However, Shining Raikou was still listed as an inactive. How could Shining Raikou have been the Jock Head? If he had PMed in a kill, he would have been taken off the inactive list.
Therefore, it is not possible for me to be the Jock Head as I replaced Shining Raikou.
And by the way, my name is Argetlam now
Thats true. You aren't the jock head.
You still could be a regular jock though. When I was a Werewolf a couple games back if you weren't the head you weren't allowed to PM the kill in. I doubt RB changed that. SR could have just not responded to any of the jock PM stuff.
I'm probably gonna vote pokenerd/Argetlam by the end of the day, but I'll wait to see other's thoughts.
RE: Werewolf XI "Revenge of the Nerds" - Day 3 End 11/29/2011 7AM GMT+8
I will perform the rebuttal in red
I would love to hear you guys' response.
Argetlam said:Okay.
I would like to refute the theory that Shining Raikou, and thus me, was the Jock Head.
My reason for this is that at the beginning of night 1, Shining Raikou was listed as an inactive.
However, when Night 1 ended, the jocks attempted a kill (TDL).
However, Shining Raikou was still listed as an inactive.
How could Shining Raikou have been the Jock Head?
Hold it. Who says the Jock Head is the one attempting kills? In the last WW, when I was a Shadow Descendant, Lenny asked me to choose a target to kill, due to King Arceus's inactivity!
If he had PMed in a kill, he would have been taken off the inactive list.
Yes, but again, if SR wasn't active, and say the Jocks are extremely important to the game, B_C can contact someone else on their team to order the kill
Therefore, it is not possible for me to be the Jock Head as I replaced Shining Raikou.
While the chance may be low due to evidence, there is still a possibility you could be the Admin, or at least one of the cronies!
And by the way, my name is Argetlam now
I will perform the rebuttal in red
I would love to hear you guys' response.
RE: Werewolf XI "Revenge of the Nerds" - Day 3 End 11/29/2011 7AM GMT+8
Well, the only other replacement is Pokechamp. He replaced dmaster. The inactives are:
Storm Blade 5
sillykyle! 3
Gale 3
PokeChamp 2
Lenny 2
Nengeni 2
HypnoticLuxray 2
Argetlam 3
Afro-G 1
Blue Thunder 1
Mew Jadester 1
I'm sure there's some of them we can rule out, I just don't have time to right now.
(Ooc: Yay 600th post!!)
Well, the only other replacement is Pokechamp. He replaced dmaster. The inactives are:
Storm Blade 5
sillykyle! 3
Gale 3
PokeChamp 2
Lenny 2
Nengeni 2
HypnoticLuxray 2
Argetlam 3
Afro-G 1
Blue Thunder 1
Mew Jadester 1
I'm sure there's some of them we can rule out, I just don't have time to right now.
(Ooc: Yay 600th post!!)
RE: Werewolf XI "Revenge of the Nerds" - Day 3 End 11/29/2011 7AM GMT+8
that's orange, not red
Usually it's custom that the head of the werewolf faction is the one that has the final say in killing. So since SR was still on the inactive list after the first kill, that means more likely than not that Pokenerd/Argetlam is not the Jock head. That does not, however, rule him out of being a jock or nerd, but there is no evidence either way.
In the last WW, Shadow Descendants were a specially privileged indie faction, as far as I know, and thus people besides the head could kill. This could be the case for the jocks as well, but then again, no way of knowing.
I am not really inclined to cast suspicion on Argetlam at this point in time for the above reasons.
that's orange, not red
Usually it's custom that the head of the werewolf faction is the one that has the final say in killing. So since SR was still on the inactive list after the first kill, that means more likely than not that Pokenerd/Argetlam is not the Jock head. That does not, however, rule him out of being a jock or nerd, but there is no evidence either way.
In the last WW, Shadow Descendants were a specially privileged indie faction, as far as I know, and thus people besides the head could kill. This could be the case for the jocks as well, but then again, no way of knowing.
I am not really inclined to cast suspicion on Argetlam at this point in time for the above reasons.
RE: Werewolf XI "Revenge of the Nerds" - Day 3 End 11/29/2011 7AM GMT+8
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RE: Werewolf XI "Revenge of the Nerds" - Day 3 End 11/29/2011 7AM GMT+8
Oh my god, thanksgiving with no internet and now there are 6 new pages of thread to read. Anyone care to fill me in?
Oh my god, thanksgiving with no internet and now there are 6 new pages of thread to read. Anyone care to fill me in?
RE: Werewolf XI "Revenge of the Nerds" - Day 3 End 11/29/2011 7AM GMT+8
Sure. At night, we learned that Meaty is the priest. No one killed because someone blocked all night roles. The jocks attempted unsuccessfully to kill PMJ. We wake up, I make random accusations, then I get bandwagoned and everyone votes for me. Then I explain myself, DNA unvotes me, and other people start to understand what I'm getting at. Now we are discussing Argetlam and weather he is a jock or not. You should probably read the last page or two to make sure you know why we are somewhat suspicious of him.
Sure. At night, we learned that Meaty is the priest. No one killed because someone blocked all night roles. The jocks attempted unsuccessfully to kill PMJ. We wake up, I make random accusations, then I get bandwagoned and everyone votes for me. Then I explain myself, DNA unvotes me, and other people start to understand what I'm getting at. Now we are discussing Argetlam and weather he is a jock or not. You should probably read the last page or two to make sure you know why we are somewhat suspicious of him.
RE: Werewolf XI "Revenge of the Nerds" - Day 3 End 11/29/2011 7AM GMT+8
Ok, I've caught up.
Point 1 (on the subject of someones vote counting double): I HIGHLY doubt this is the effect of a power up. Unless I read it wrong:
a. The power up only effects night roles. Even if it can effect day roles, it's effecting roles, not votes.
b. I've played in mafia games where one of the townies has a role allowing his votes to count twice.
From this, my opinion is that ISB, Hatman, and/or Teapot are townies (at least one or them), and we need to be very careful before we lynch any of them.
Point 2 ( on the subject of Blah): I'm not immediately suspicious of him, but there is one question I have that hasn't been answered up to this point. Why were all of your posts on day 1 different from every post since? It certainly wasn't a night ability, and I have no idea why you would spontaneously act like that. If you could shed some light on that, that would be great.
Point 3 (on the subject of Argetlam): Argetlam is certainly not the head jock, but I think he has a night role of some importance and he's worth checking into. He very well still could be a Jock/Nerd.
Just my 2 cents. I'm not going to lynch yet.
Ok, I've caught up.
Point 1 (on the subject of someones vote counting double): I HIGHLY doubt this is the effect of a power up. Unless I read it wrong:
a. The power up only effects night roles. Even if it can effect day roles, it's effecting roles, not votes.
b. I've played in mafia games where one of the townies has a role allowing his votes to count twice.
From this, my opinion is that ISB, Hatman, and/or Teapot are townies (at least one or them), and we need to be very careful before we lynch any of them.
Point 2 ( on the subject of Blah): I'm not immediately suspicious of him, but there is one question I have that hasn't been answered up to this point. Why were all of your posts on day 1 different from every post since? It certainly wasn't a night ability, and I have no idea why you would spontaneously act like that. If you could shed some light on that, that would be great.
Point 3 (on the subject of Argetlam): Argetlam is certainly not the head jock, but I think he has a night role of some importance and he's worth checking into. He very well still could be a Jock/Nerd.
Just my 2 cents. I'm not going to lynch yet.
RE: Werewolf XI "Revenge of the Nerds" - Day 3 End 11/29/2011 7AM GMT+8
The reason I acted so different on the first day was because I took my "flavor text" a little too seriously. It's my first werewolf game, so I didn't know I didn't have to follow it. By flavor text I mean the description of my character, like PMJ being emo.
The reason I acted so different on the first day was because I took my "flavor text" a little too seriously. It's my first werewolf game, so I didn't know I didn't have to follow it. By flavor text I mean the description of my character, like PMJ being emo.
RE: Werewolf XI "Revenge of the Nerds" - Day 3 End 11/29/2011 7AM GMT+8
In my WW game (WW9) I had role where you could target someone and they could gain an extra vote/ lose the right to vote for the next day. So I would not say that one of them is a townie just yet, it could easily be a targeted role.
In my WW game (WW9) I had role where you could target someone and they could gain an extra vote/ lose the right to vote for the next day. So I would not say that one of them is a townie just yet, it could easily be a targeted role.
RE: Werewolf XI "Revenge of the Nerds" - Day 3 End 11/29/2011 7AM GMT+8
I thought that it was DNA's vote that counted twice, because when Darkrai's Nightmare died he used his power-up ability on DNA. Cakers could have just forgot that detail when he first said 2 votes... I'm not sure, but I don't think this is all that important.
I'm glad that we gave up on the stupid blah237 bandwagon, but now we need to find a good solid lead and finally get an actual jock/nerd. So far, Argetlam is the most suspicious, but that's not saying much and I still don't think he's suspicious enough to lynch. Yet.
I thought that it was DNA's vote that counted twice, because when Darkrai's Nightmare died he used his power-up ability on DNA. Cakers could have just forgot that detail when he first said 2 votes... I'm not sure, but I don't think this is all that important.
I'm glad that we gave up on the stupid blah237 bandwagon, but now we need to find a good solid lead and finally get an actual jock/nerd. So far, Argetlam is the most suspicious, but that's not saying much and I still don't think he's suspicious enough to lynch. Yet.
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RE: Werewolf XI "Revenge of the Nerds" - Day 3 End 11/29/2011 7AM GMT+8
Ugh, you're right. Sorry about that, I wrote that at like six in the morning after working for eight hours ._.
Still, even though it wasn't Meaty who tried to kill me, why the jocks would want me dead (especially since Meaty, the only person who I could use my role on, is not a wolf) is still worth looking into.
Ugh, you're right. Sorry about that, I wrote that at like six in the morning after working for eight hours ._.
Still, even though it wasn't Meaty who tried to kill me, why the jocks would want me dead (especially since Meaty, the only person who I could use my role on, is not a wolf) is still worth looking into.
RE: Werewolf XI "Revenge of the Nerds" - Day 3 End 11/29/2011 7AM GMT+8
Because I was bored, I went through the first day to see who was even remotely suspicious of PMJ excluding Meaty. I only took the posts that had PMJ and suspicious in the same post. Here is what I found:
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This one I am not sure if it is worth anything.
Because I was bored, I went through the first day to see who was even remotely suspicious of PMJ excluding Meaty. I only took the posts that had PMJ and suspicious in the same post. Here is what I found:
Page 13
DNA said:
superpokemon67 said:
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Rock Wrecker said:
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This one I am not sure if it is worth anything.
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