Finished Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - TOWN WINS

[Glace]

RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 1 ends Saturday, July 7th, 11.59pm PDT

If I were Teal and I were writing it, I would not put my name in.

 

[Chariblaze]

RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 1 ends Saturday, July 7th, 11.59pm PDT

There are multiple ways to spell grey? (I'm not the best speller)
I thought one was the color and the other was something else... haha.

Generally, I've always taken it as using gray for the color and grey for grey matter. Seems both are proper.

I don't have much else to add. I've read every post so far, and I do somewhat agree that lynching Cinesra is the way to go.

 

[DNA]

RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 1 ends Saturday, July 7th, 11.59pm PDT

Wait, 9Tailz voted twice. I didn't even notice this.
Keep track of your own votes, people; it's enough for me to actually have to sift through your posts, never mind count the votes correct.

New vote count:

Cinesra: 4
No Lynch: 10

I wouldn't allow someone to vote twice. If anything I'd have their vote count as double.
9Tailz, please keep track of your own votes.

 

[doublenikesocks]

RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 1 ends Saturday, July 7th, 11.59pm PDT

Wait. Are we seriously trying to find the sherief? Why? God, it's like you guys forgot that wolves are actually dangerous and eliminating important townies puts them ahead. Yeah, let's continue looking for the sherief. Great idea.

_this_

I think we have found one wolf on the first day.

Everyone bandwagon against safariblade JK
IDK what we should do, I'm not going to vote yet. I'd like to see what other info we can get.

Vote: No Lynch
At the moment, this just seems the best course of action.

omg lolololololololololololololol That was hilarious.

Ok, back to playing. I guess we're already leaning towards this, I guess there's no stopping it. Vote: No Lynch

9Tailz says he would not vote, not enough evidence. A few minutes later, he votes no lynch, saying that it's 'the best course of action.' He likely checked with his scum brethren to make sure that was 'the best course of action.' Next, he bandwagons with the No lynch ride. This seems very wolfy to me.

9tailz seems like he knows his way around werewolf already and this is his first game. He agrees with whatever is put in front of him so he can attract the least suspicion.

I for one, am in favor of being aggressive, going after people who slip up. I am sick of playing the last 4 or 5 Werewolf games on the losing side. It is time the townies win and the wolfs lose.

Unvote: No lynch
Vote: 9tailz

I urge you to vote on the same track as me.

As for the arsenic teal deal (haha I rhymed), I say we wait until day 4 or 5 so the seer can check both of them without being killed early.

I also possibly found another slip up, but I'll post that later.

 

[Dork Void]

RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 1 ends Saturday, July 7th, 11.59pm PDT

dns, you have some valid points, but voting this early on is probably a bit hasty-we've got time. and we should at least give 9Tailz a chance to defend himself, although I do agree that his posts are a bit wolfy.

 

[Bisharp37]

RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 1 ends Saturday, July 7th, 11.59pm PDT

Okay so I just reread the introduction and the Day 1 posts for possible clues didn't find anything Noteworthy But I did find a list of possible roles/ confirmed roles:

1.Bartender
2.Pianist
3.Texas Ranger
4.Sheriff

Also it mentions that the Handwriting on the notes are Markedly Different. This could possibly to different genders or alliances..But only certainly means that the person who wrote the first note (Most likely The Alpha Wolf) is not the same person as the one who wrote the second. Out of the people who's roles are probably in the game the (Texas Ranger) is the most likely person because it's hinted in the text that he's done his research on the town. Also is it just me or do the Bartender and the sheriff seem to be friends? Possibly a Deputy of sorts...Just my speculation/thoughts.

 

[dmaster]

RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 1 ends Saturday, July 7th, 11.59pm PDT

dns, you have some valid points, but voting this early on is probably a bit hasty-we've got time. and we should at least give 9Tailz a chance to defend himself, although I do agree that his posts are a bit wolfy.

I wouldn't mind seeing his defense as well. It's not like he's going to be lynched anytime soon, but this will definitely grab his attention enough to make a post. He does look like a newbie if anything else right now and could very well be a possible wolf as doublenikesocks does bring up very good points (and PMJ did earlier as well regarding his posts where he said he can't vote and then someone votes No Lynch and then he immediately followed lol).

dmaster out.

 

[Cinesra]

RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 1 ends Saturday, July 7th, 11.59pm PDT

A common association with the word "gray" is neutral. What is "neutral" for this game? Is it townie? Is it an indie? If anything, gray is more harmless than harmful. I'd rather go after people who aren't "neutral" like Teal, having been acting odd like Bippa, Puff, and 9Tailz, or have had a history of screwing us over like SB.

Or the note could be just to mess with us.

 

[Puff-Sun]

RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 1 ends Saturday, July 7th, 11.59pm PDT

Well, it looks like I'm being accused day 1 again. In answer to your question, no, I'm not very experienced in Werewolf. And as you may remember if you played last game, I like to keep my posts short. It saves time and reduces needless confusion.

 

[Teal]

RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 1 ends Saturday, July 7th, 11.59pm PDT

Woah, so much to catch up with, although I did a situation check on my phone at some point. :C (I can't really post on my phone though.)

But what I can say right away, Glace, is that I'm not so stupid that I would put my own name into that kind of note (that's... extremely risky, especially considering how vague the note is). I hate it that I'm put in the spotlight in such a way, even though it seems to claim the truth at least about me - that I'm not an indie (or bad in general). So no, the note is not from me. lol

Also, I think that my name might be there just because it's another color? Maybe the role* can check every night if one person is an indie, plus they can post one note, and it might be that it has to be in some kind of riddle form. (That would sound pretty balanced imo.) But then again whyyy use teal for no reason? To confuse? Dunno.

* I'm pretty sure by now that it's a role and not DNA, because PMJ (?) said that it would be bad hosting from DNA and I agree.

Ooooooookkkkk. Now I will go through the thread... I will give you short comments about posts made during my absence.

Vote: No Lynch

Too early to decide who to lynch; this is the best option right now.

dns, lolwut, you made such a post too.

Not enough info. Since I'm on a phone, I can't make it on a new line. Sorry. Vote: No Lynch

+

I agree that we lynch no one. We don't have enough information yet.

The only posts Infinity made. Even if they were a townie, it looks like they aren't going to help us anyway.

Everyone bandwagon against safariblade JK
IDK what we should do, I'm not going to vote yet. I'd like to see what other info we can get.

Vote: No Lynch
At the moment, this just seems the best course of action.

WTFFFFFFF?

omg lolololololololololololololol That was hilarious.

Ok, back to playing. I guess we're already leaning towards this, I guess there's no stopping it. Vote: No Lynch

What a noob. xD

A voice then called out of the crowd, pointing towards the skeptical and hasty Meaty.

"So, you would dare bite the hand that feeds you, eh?" the man said. He then walked up to the unfortunate Meaty, slapped him across the face, and took away all his Vanguard cards before walking off. That man was DNA.

DNA was:
[removed]

Day continues as normal.

I love you, nohomo. <3

As townies, we need to play agressive. I still think that no lynch is the worst route to take. I'd much rather take the risk of killing a potential townie than abstain from a vote that's guaranteeing the death of a townie. With this note, we'll have something to take us into day 2 with (Teal's allegiance). The note heavily implies that Cinesra is the one to watch out for, which is why voting for him first.

But that's only if we are assuming that the note comes from a townie. Thanks to the handwriting being a different, I do think that it does come from a townie, further details above.
But let us revise the other scenario:
If the note, however, comes from a malicious source, then Cinesra would be a townie, and come on, do you think the wolves would put their teammates name into a note? That's like putting a timebomb on your teammate. We saw it happen with TDL & corn bread last game. Sure, corn bread did not get lynched right away, but on the next (?) day or the day after the next day (?) - soon enough anyway.

Maybe--and this is a big maybe--they're saying that Teal is a Vigilante, and Cinesra is not. I'm not sure how much stock I'd be willing to put in that theory, personally, but it's something to think about.

So we have ten days to decipher (or try to decipher) this clue. If we can't make heads or tails of it, I say we kill off safariblade.

Oh boy, I swear this show is getting funnier ever second. <3

>No Lynch Day 1
>someone dies
>get another vague clue (or not - we don't know if the message ability is X-Shot or not)
>still no new leads
>Cinesra/Teal/safariblade/TDL gets lynched anyway because we still have nothing to go on and we "might as well"

This... actually makes sense.

There's no stopping it.

Vote: No Lynch

Mainly because there's also a very small chance of actually getting a wolf day one and I'd rather lose one townie than two.We honestly have no other leads just grudges
unless we want to get Cinesra/TDL/Teal.If anyone can convince me to change my Vote I will but until then it stands.

+

Didn't realize we had 10 whole days.
Unvote:No lynch

Let's wait for some more evidence..

Again, just three posts in between?

Ha, well, I'm mostly getting a feel for how games go here before I jump in and do something stupid and get lynched .

At this point there isn't a ton I have to add, as where I usually play [Glace hello did you read this], No Lynch is considered the worst possible play, so I'd rather at least see how things start to pan out.

That and Nationals has me so preoccupied its hard to think straight. Expect some kind of post of use during my drive to Indy tommorow...
~KP

Oh, my bad, I could have sworn I saw your name on the PokeGym one...

Ey, Glace, you should learn really to read! Not the first time you are reading something wrong this game, and it's day 1. xD

I'm confident the mystery writer exists. Games where the moderator misleads or outright lies to the players is called bas[/b][/b]tard modding, and is highly frowned upon unless the mod mentions this in the beginning. I don't think he's doing it to screw with the town, either, because then he would be unfairly biased and he can't be if he is to be seen as a fair mod.

Oh, here is the quote I was talking about.

1. Dusty Gulch has a sheriff. If DNA is sticking to typical mafia roles, this person most likely has a double lynch vote. Check the No Lynch votes. Do they add up correctly? If not, one of them could be the sheriff.

What the heck man, why are you trying to find the sheriff? That's not something you should say anyway, you are just helping the Villigantes this way. >____>

2. The Texas Ranger has information on the town. This could actually refer to the note left on Night 0. He's "read some records" on the town, which very well could let him start the game with info on two people. The fact that it was Cinesra and Teal leads me to believe that if this assessment is true, they were randomly selected. Seems a bit hard to believe. But I think we can safely assume that whoever the Texas Ranger is knows _something._

Sounds possible.

Maybe that's just you being slightly paranoid...and maybe that's just me being indecisive.I really don't want a townie lynched Day 1 but as PMJ and maybe some other's stated we're are going to have To Be Aggressive if we want to win.But it could also be argued that you're a just a wolf that wants to get to night as quickly as possible...After seeing posts saying that we have Ten Whole Days Left..I decided to actually think more about who to vote for and further analyze what little clues we actually have that and seeing we were so close to ending the day already..

lolwut (capitalization)

... I count 11 voters for No Lynch at the time DNA posted the update status. Can someone verify this? Some might indeed have a double vote role.

WHY ARE YOU COUNTING!?

11 Voters for No Lynch is correct.
3 on this page, 8 on the previous.

...

Voting with no evidence is a bad idea.
Vote: No Lynch

+

It could mean nothing. Sow we have two options. No lynch. Or we could lynch one on Day 1 and the other on Day 2. I personally believe that no lynch is a better option since we really have nothing else to go off of.

His only posts, again.

2) Lynching Cinesra and hope he's not a townie, followed up with lynching Teal if we were wrong.

--With option one, we WILL lose a townie (unless someone guesses amazingly and blocks the kill)
--With option two we MIGHT lose a townie, and the next turn we will kill a threat (assuming our theory is correct) And in addition we will most likely conclude the Teal/Arsenic mystery so that won't be an issue anymore.

I think I'll be aggressive with this one and
Unvote: No Lynch
Vote: Cinesra

I'm seriously thinking that you are more stupid with every post you make. (Safari, read the beginning of this huge post.)

Wait. Are we seriously trying to find the sherief? Why? God, it's like you guys forgot that wolves are actually dangerous and eliminating important townies puts them ahead. Yeah, let's continue looking for the sherief. Great idea.

Hail TDL. o/

Puff, it's generally a good idea to not listen to safariblade ever.

I can't help but agree now, lol.

No before we all go a band-a-wagoning on this clue, let's actually examine it more. What makes us so sure that what this clue is referring to is alignments? It could mean roles. It might not even be referring to players. What exactly is arsenic? It's a poison, in most uses. As I think PMJ mentioned before, Arsenic's true color is grey. It might mean something along the lines of Teal has been poisoned.

I doubt this, why would anybody but the poisoner know this (except maybe if we deal with some kind of spying role here), and why would the poisoner tell us?

By the way, I don't think we should place too much stock on lynching Teal straight away if we lynch Cinesra and he winds up being town. It's possible they're both town and the message-sending role is a scum role sent to trip us up.

I can't help but agree with most of PMJ:s posts. He sure learned something from hosting WW12. ;3

Am I the only one who's noticed how Bippa and Puff have been acting. Bippa was like "Hey, TDL, imma be aggressive, be be aggressive and lynch you." The Puff was all like "Haha, yeah, I'll vote for TDL for no good reason besides bandwagoning." Then they both changed their votes to No Lynch because that was the popular opinion. Next, they saw Meaty vote for me and decided to hop on that bandwagon. It's real early for 1 voting when we have like 9 days left and for 2 changing your votes this much.

I didn't but if that's true and we lynch one and they turn out to be a wolf, we might get two for the price of one. Gonna check that out if I remember... no... this post is seriously enough, do it yourself:
http://www.pokebeach.com/forums/search.php?action=results&sid=8c762f0b023df7fb4fcea60140e8eb01
http://www.pokebeach.com/forums/search.php?action=results&sid=a77e797752348facd730a2e14addc56d

I'm just gonna believe your and...

Actually I did notice Bippa switching a lot. I would rather vote for one of them than you.

Glaces observations for now.

Also, I think there would be a greater chance Cinesra is an indie than a wolf. If the Texas Ranger looked through records to find something, he would probably find a profile on a dangerous outlaw, but one that would already be around, not an unknown wolf.

Also, I like it how a bunch of people voted no Lynch, and then they all subtracted their votes...

This... this actually matches up with what I said at the beginning of this post. Maybe the Texas Ranger really did post it, and they can find indies (who are, based on the setting, probably small criminals from the town itself). Also remember how it was the Texas Ranger who reported first that the villains* are coming to town. I wouldn't be surprised if he keeps announcing more criminals in some other way (notes) during the next days. Maybe he can detect wolves too, not only indies?

*I think I will just call them villains cause I never remember how you properly spell them without looking somewhere where it's written...

Based on that, I'm confident enough to trust the note for now, so:

Vote: Cinesra

Seems to be an indie and not a wolf, but I would rather lynch a very probable indie than nobody. (Remember my role last game... devasting.)

If he is a townie and I get lynched after him for being mentioned on the note too, then I'm gonna hate this stupid town forever. .___.
(But as I said, I think we can trust the note for now. ;P )

Anyway, a thumbs up for Glace, imo you are playing better than last game (I can't really say the same about safari, though...), because I seriously thought you were a wolf until you revealed your ID last game. Now you at least said something that I personally found useful.

Also, I noticed that the Vigilantes note said "We have arrived. Resist or die. - The Vigilantes". Wouldn't it say "We have arrived. Surrender or die. - The Vigilantes"? That's the traditional mode of enemy notes. I don't think it could be a clue, but it is interesting.

Considering the nature of the game, I don't find it weird. What I find more weird is you bringing that up. Not saying I suspect you or anything, I just think it's weird to talk about that. xD

So right now we've got a lot of bandwagoners. I'm thinking that some of them are probably just newer players that are just playing like that because they don't know, or at least don't think they know enough, or whatever the reason is otherwise-its very doubtful that all of the bandwagoners are wolves, there will be townie bandwagoners in every game.

INCOMING RANT. (You can skip this reply if you want.)

Meh, you are right. Still pointing out some of them in this post, though. I think that a playstyle of sending like two posts until now is not very "cool" towards ANY other players. If you are a townie, it's not fair towards the rest of the town as you don't contribute, and if you are a wolf, it's not fair towards your fellow wolves. Honestly I would rather have all of them replaced so we get the most enjoyable show. xD But I kind of understand if some new players don't really know what to do and they do stupid stuff, or if they want to see how you play this first. Meeeeeh.

There are multiple ways to spell grey? (I'm not the best speller)

Excuse me if I'm rude (I am), but do you have dyslexia? Just answer, I want to know.

The first recorded use of grey as a color name in the English language was in AD 700.[2] Grey is the British, Canadian, Australian, Irish, New Zealand and South African spelling, although gray remained in common usage in the UK until the second half of the 20th century.[3] Gray is the preferred American spelling, although grey is an accepted variant.[4][5] Gray became the preferred spelling in American English around 1825.[6]

Wikipedia is almighty.

How experienced is puff?

He played James during the last game (just checked). That's all I know.

Let's face it:. If Teal was the writer, he either has guts for the largest bluff possible, or is derping. I highly doubt either of them.

HERPDERPDERPDERPHERPDERP.
Now I'm derping. It sounds like that when I do it, for future reference.

9Tailz says he would not vote, not enough evidence. A few minutes later, he votes no lynch, saying that it's 'the best course of action.' He likely checked with his scum brethren to make sure that was 'the best course of action.' Next, he bandwagons with the No lynch ride. This seems very wolfy to me.

9tailz seems like he knows his way around werewolf already and this is his first game. He agrees with whatever is put in front of him so he can attract the least suspicion.

Ok, I don't like it that I'm almost defending one of my suspects too, but I would rather get Bippa/Puff instead, because:
- If someone here is a derp and a bad player (remember that the town had these last game too), it's definitely 9, as he even voted twice.
- I don't think that the wolves would advise him to do such a stupid move.
- You say he knows his way around and how to play, yet you and a bunch of other people (including me!) got suspicious of him? xD 9Tailz is definitely not "attracting the least suspicion".

- Bippa/Puff has a possible 2 for 1 deal.

YAAAY. Finally done. o/ [Post Reply] *click*

PS.: ... don't expect me to do this _EVER_ again. ._____."
PPS: Sorry DNA that my vote is in the middle of it all.
PPPS: Ninjaaas. Not many though. :O (What time is it over there in America?)

A common association with the word "gray" is neutral. What is "neutral" for this game? Is it townie? Is it an indie? If anything, gray is more harmless than harmful. I'd rather go after people who aren't "neutral" like Teal, having been acting odd like Bippa, Puff, and 9Tailz, or have had a history of screwing us over like SB.

Or the note could be just to mess with us.

I see gray as indie, and I don't even base that on some stupid player list colors. You know what "gray zone" means, right? That would make villains black and townies white.
No hard feelings Cinesra, I know how it feels to have your nick on that note. :C

 

[safariblade]

RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 1 ends Saturday, July 7th, 11.59pm PDT

I like how you call my post stupid but then you vote the same as me based on the same exact logic.

2) Lynching Cinesra and hope he's not a townie, followed up with lynching Teal if we were wrong.

--With option two we MIGHT lose a townie, and the next turn we will kill a threat (assuming our theory is correct) And in addition we will most likely conclude the Teal/Arsenic mystery so that won't be an issue anymore.

I think I'll be aggressive with this one and
Unvote: No Lynch
Vote: Cinesra

[/b]Vote: Cinesra[/b]

Seems to be an indie and not a wolf, but I would rather lynch a very probable indie than nobody. (Remember my role last game... devasting.)

If he is a townie and I get lynched after him for being mentioned on the note too, then I'm gonna hate this stupid town forever. .___.
(But as I said, I think we can trust the note for now. ;P )

 

[DNA]

RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 1 ends Saturday, July 7th, 11.59pm PDT

Dangit Teal, stop driving us all insane

new vote count so I don't drive myself crazy

Cinesra: 5
No Lynch: 9
9tailz: 1

 

[Teal]

RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 1 ends Saturday, July 7th, 11.59pm PDT

safariblade, I meant that the now bolded part is stupid:

2) Lynching Cinesra and hope he's not a townie, followed up with lynching Teal if we were wrong.

--With option one, we WILL lose a townie (unless someone guesses amazingly and blocks the kill)
--With option two we MIGHT lose a townie, and the next turn we will kill a threat (assuming our theory is correct) And in addition we will most likely conclude the Teal/Arsenic mystery so that won't be an issue anymore.

I think I'll be aggressive with this one and
Unvote: No Lynch
Vote: Cinesra

I thought it was clear in the context.

@DNA: Haa-haa!

 

[dmaster]

RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 1 ends Saturday, July 7th, 11.59pm PDT

I'd rather go after people who aren't "neutral" like Teal, having been acting odd like Bippa, Puff, and 9Tailz, or have had a history of screwing us over like SB.

Or the note could be just to mess with us.

So you believe that Teal isn't "neutral"? That's surprising considering you did say that the vague clue meant "nothing" in one of your earlier posts. I would like an explanation for that.

I'm willing to hear your side of the story on this but it seems that more people are bandwagoning against you. If you truly truly think that it means nothing, then I'm afraid that probably won't help your case very much.

dmaster out.

 

[Cinesra]

RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 1 ends Saturday, July 7th, 11.59pm PDT

Actually I did notice Bippa switching a lot. I would rather vote for one of them than you.

Also, I think there would be a greater chance Cinesra is an indie than a wolf. If the Texas Ranger looked through records to find something, he would probably find a profile on a dangerous outlaw, but one that would already be around, not an unknown wolf.

Also, I like it how a bunch of people voted no Lynch, and then they all subtracted their votes...

I'd love to know how you know that the Texas Ranger is the one who posted the note. I'd also love to know how the hell you know what it means. While you're at it, please tell give me a good reason as to why a "dangerous outlaw" would be in the town records and also allowed to live in the town instead of in jail or kicked out.

 

[Nengeni]

RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 1 ends Saturday, July 7th, 11.59pm PDT

Wow, that was a long post, Teal.

Are you saying that my posts aren't contributing to the town because I asked a simple question that I was too lazy to check and thought someone else might know? Or am I missing something with the second half of your post (After "Incoming Rant")

 

[Teal]

RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 1 ends Saturday, July 7th, 11.59pm PDT

No, I'm not, Nengeni... I just answered your question

 

[Cinesra]

RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 1 ends Saturday, July 7th, 11.59pm PDT

So you believe that Teal isn't "neutral"? That's surprising considering you did say that the vague clue meant "nothing" in one of your earlier posts. I would like an explanation for that.

I'm willing to hear your side of the story on this but it seems that more people are bandwagoning against you. If you truly truly think that it means nothing, then I'm afraid that probably won't help your case very much.

dmaster out.

The post was pondering what the note meant, should it mean anything. I was also explaining why lynching any of the other "suspects" would be a better course of action than lynching me.

 

[Nengeni]

RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 1 ends Saturday, July 7th, 11.59pm PDT

I wasn't sure because I was grouped under the heading:
Honestly I would rather have all of them replaced so we get the most enjoyable show.

 

[dmaster]

RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 1 ends Saturday, July 7th, 11.59pm PDT

The post was pondering what the note meant, should it mean anything. I was also explaining why lynching any of the other "suspects" would be a better course of action than lynching me.

I get that second part. I think the bandwagoners definitely should be looked at especially 9Tailz because he seems very erratic in his posting/voting.

So, if the note means anything (which you think it still doesn't..?), you're saying that Teal is not "neutral"? Is that what I'm getting from your opinion on it? If so, I'm wondering if you have any proof to back up that claim.

dmaster out.