Finished Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - TOWN WINS

[Bisharp37]

RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 10 ends Sunday September 2nd at 11pm PDT

There were many people he didn't accuse.

And how would know you were innocent night one when he didn't find out if the person he targeted was town until his vote counted as two the next day.

And why should I believe that he saw you? PMJ thought you were guilty... how does that help your case.

One approved is presumably saying that their the town drunk and that Argetlam knew this night 0 so Argetlam didn't accuse them.We of course have no way to prove this but that's what I think One Approved is trying to say.

 

[One Approved]

RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 10 ends Sunday September 2nd at 11pm PDT

if you read my posts carefully you will be able to prove that I telling the truth.

 

[Glace]

RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 10 ends Sunday September 2nd at 11pm PDT

Then Argetlam would find out 3 nights later (wow there are lots of three-night roles based games). He couldn't know Night One.

 

[Bisharp37]

RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 10 ends Sunday September 2nd at 11pm PDT

Then Argetlam would find out 3 nights later (wow there are lots of three-night roles based games). He couldn't know Night One.

Ability : Friendly Banter
Use : Once per night.
When you use this ability, PM me the name of any 1 player, except yourself. Three nights later, at the start of that night, you will be told that player's alignment. At that point, that person becomes a "regular" at the saloon. You may have multiple regulars. (This is explained in the next ability.) There is also a town drunk, who is automatically one of your regulars from the start of the game. (His alignment is "Dusty Gulch", and his name will be sent to you in a separate PM.)

if One Approved was the drunk Argetlam would have known night 1....

 

[One Approved]

RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 10 ends Sunday September 2nd at 11pm PDT

I would honestly love to give you more to work with, but my role is so stupid and dumb that if I say anymore I might be modkill.

 

[Glace]

RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 10 ends Sunday September 2nd at 11pm PDT

Kind of missed the part.

Fine...

Cinesra or Teal?

 

[superpokemon67]

RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 10 ends Sunday September 2nd at 11pm PDT

I find this ironic considering the note day one. I'm not sure who to vote for though.

 

[Glace]

RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 10 ends Sunday September 2nd at 11pm PDT

I find this ironic considering the note day one. I'm not sure who to vote for though.

I was thinking about that too. Let's look back for quotes. In the mean time, I got what I wanted. Unvote: One Approved

 

[Bisharp37]

RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 10 ends Sunday September 2nd at 11pm PDT

Just read over a lot of One approved's post their telling the truth.

 

[DNA]

RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 10 ends Sunday September 2nd at 11pm PDT

The Tumbleweed of Vote Count:

Everybody: 0

Well, you have until Sunday, but I was surprised to see no posting at all on Wednesday.

 

[Teal]

RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 10 ends Sunday September 2nd at 11pm PDT

Ugh, I'm just feeling too lazy to write anything today. Watching Just For Laughs videos on YouTube. lol
Ugh...
Ok, will try...

I would like to know how Glace has come to the conclusion that it must be either me or Cinesra or Nengeni. Glace has been overlooking and misunderstanding (accidentally or purposefully, you may ask) stuff during the whole game and this is just one more case where he does that.

The only one I rule out 100% (like really 100%) is One Approved. He is the town drunk. Why? Because:
1) There is a Town Drunk who is a Dusty Gulcher.
2) One Approved said he is the Town Drunk.
3) Lying doesn't make any sense as the real town drunk would out him => one of them is lying => one of them is the wolf => we win.
Conclusion: One Approved is a townie, 100% sure. (Unless someone else claims now to be the town drunk. lol)
If you want to know reasons why everyone else is not a 100% certain townie, I can write them up.

Ruling out people with no solid evidence is very dangerous. The wolf could win because he (I don't think there are any female players left?) is believed to be a certain townie if he manages to lay low.

And if you accuse me and Cinesra, think of this:
Do seriously think that I would let Zyflair cast so much suspicion on me right at the beginning of the game? Like really? Haven't you noticed how much I like playing this game (unlike some other people *looks at inactives* ಠ_ಠ)? Why would I put myself in such a danger right from the start? That would mean that I would have to wait months to get another chance (to play forum WW).
Why would the wolves in general make such a huge gamble right from the start? It almost got Cinesra lynched! Cinesra would have gotten lynched for pretty sure if he didn't reveal his info. That put me into an even tighter spot as people believed Cinesra was town after that. Why would the wolves do such a gamble when they had lost nothing (= no need for risks at that point)? Sure, the wolves this game aren't the best players, but the note writer was Zyflair, and Zyflair is not that stupid. In addition, I'm not THAT bad a player that they would choose to possibly sacrify ME, right (well at least I don't consider myself THAT bad xD). Like they had 9tailz who was just horrible. Why not use him as bait if they would really take such a risk? I hope you see where I'm coming from. >__>
PS: Your "Bisharp feels like town" doesn't convince me. Bisharp, at least I'm still watching you.

 

[DNA]

RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 10 ends Sunday September 2nd at 11pm PDT

...At this point in the game, I really feel like posting as a player and giving what I think are my suspicious of things, but since I have the answer key, I don't think I could actually create something that'd be truly unbiased.
Also, as a game host, it wouldn't be proper either. I'm not allowed to share what I know or think.

What I will say, though, is that today is going like a "normal" (imo) Werewolf day should go. No turbolynches, no calling out - just reasonable theories (and some less than reasonable) all being laid out on the table. I do like this...mostly because the days have been going by waaaaaaaaaaay too fast lately. Yeah, you got most of the wolves and both of the indies, but it still went by way too fast.
Just keep in mind that you do have a 3-day deadline, so come to a majority vote in that time.

(Also, I totally wanted TheGuy to win ;_

 

[Glace]

RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 10 ends Sunday September 2nd at 11pm PDT

Ugh, I'm just feeling too lazy to write anything today. Watching Just For Laughs videos on YouTube. lol
Ugh...
Ok, will try...

I would like to know how Glace has come to the conclusion that it must be either me or Cinesra or Nengeni. Glace has been overlooking and misunderstanding (accidentally or purposefully, you may ask) stuff during the whole game and this is just one more case where he does that.

Shuudup

The only one I rule out 100% (like really 100%) is One Approved. He is the town drunk. Why? Because:
1) There is a Town Drunk who is a Dusty Gulcher.
2) One Approved said he is the Town Drunk.
3) Lying doesn't make any sense as the real town drunk would out him => one of them is lying => one of them is the wolf => we win.
Conclusion: One Approved is a townie, 100% sure. (Unless someone else claims now to be the town drunk. lol)
If you want to know reasons why everyone else is not a 100% certain townie, I can write them up.

Yeah, because if the town drunk dies, then no big deal, so they'd have no problem revealing

Ruling out people with no solid evidence is very dangerous. The wolf could win because he (I don't think there are any female players left?) is believed to be a certain townie if he manages to lay low.

And if you accuse me and Cinesra, think of this:
Do seriously think that I would let Zyflair cast so much suspicion on me right at the beginning of the game? Like really? Haven't you noticed how much I like playing this game (unlike some other people *looks at inactives* ಠ_ಠ)? Why would I put myself in such a danger right from the start? That would mean that I would have to wait months to get another chance (to play forum WW).
Why would the wolves in general make such a huge gamble right from the start? It almost got Cinesra lynched! Cinesra would have gotten lynched for pretty sure if he didn't reveal his info. That put me into an even tighter spot as people believed Cinesra was town after that. Why would the wolves do such a gamble when they had lost nothing (= no need for risks at that point)? Sure, the wolves this game aren't the best players, but the note writer was Zyflair, and Zyflair is not that stupid. In addition, I'm not THAT bad a player that they would choose to possibly sacrify ME, right (well at least I don't consider myself THAT bad xD). Like they had 9tailz who was just horrible. Why not use him as bait if they would really take such a risk? I hope you see where I'm coming from. >__>
Notice that Cinesra was the one being voted for.

PS: Your "Bisharp feels like town" doesn't convince me. Bisharp, at least I'm still watching you.
Trust me, he is town. He's got to be.

...At this point in the game, I really feel like posting as a player and giving what I think are my suspicious of things, but since I have the answer key, I don't think I could actually create something that'd be truly unbiased.

, You could give me the answer key >8]

What I will say, though, is that today is going like a "normal" (imo) Werewolf day should go. No turbolynches, no calling out - just reasonable theories (and some less than reasonable)

I try.

 

[Teal]

RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 10 ends Sunday September 2nd at 11pm PDT

So what if it was Cinesra people voted for at first? If he would have been lynched and turned out as a townie I would have been in really big danger. People would probably say stuff like "let's end what we begun and kill Teal too" (some were even arguing for my kill rather than Cinesra day one and some said "let's get Cinesra first and then Teal") because after all people were assuming the notes were coming from a good guy. (Which they were NOT.)
Don't ignore my point and just state something random about Cinesra. Do you understand what I'm saying? :/

 

[Glace]

RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 10 ends Sunday September 2nd at 11pm PDT

Well, I know for a fact these are townies:

superpokemon
Riskbreakers

they are the lovers.

oyeah1988
Bisharp
One Approved
Me

Why is DNS cleared?

 

[Teal]

RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 10 ends Sunday September 2nd at 11pm PDT

I'll make that list of "why we can't assume everyone is a townie". Look forward to conspiracy theories~


One Approved
Townie. Explanation in my bigger post above.

Bisharp37
First impression: Glaces says he knows Bisharp is town, mixed for me otherwise
Why it's possible he is a wolf: Nothing points against it either, except Glace's statement.

Oyeah1988
First quick impression: townie
Why it's possible he is a wolf: By what oyeah said, it sounds like ShadowLugia protected:
TDL
PMJ
oyeah1988
After all oyeah said that SL knew he would protect townies. Who would SL protect first? oyeah of course, a certain townie (or so SL thinks at least ;P)! PMJ and TDL were the only other known townies. But... wait, what? TDL? Didn't he say he was unkillable anyway? And... PMJ? Didn't he say that killing him was very stupid, so convincing that the wolves would prooobably not take that risk? Why "nightprotect" these two people who don't need protection? That means that the protections were wasted. Now oyeah was SL:s mason, so he could have convinced SL to protect these so that the protections are wasted + get a protection for himself. Notice how SL was killed after these protections (he was not given the chance to protect people where it would actually help - he was killed right at that point where he became a real treath for the wolves). Oyeah could have told the wolves the right time to kill SL.

Riskbreakers
First quick impression: townie
Why it's possible he is a wolf: Yes, his role was a townie role a few games ago. However, that doesn't guarantee that it is a townie role now too. What exactly prevents a wolf from having a searching for love ability? Nothing.
Btw. on the Finnish Pokémon Forum WW a wolf was searching for love (it was even arguably the best wolf role) .

Superpokemon67
First quick impression: townie
Why it's possible he is a wolf: Well, just like with the searcher nothing really prevents a wolf from being the target.

Nengeni
First quick impression: mixed
Why it's possible he is a wolf: His ability still sounds wolfish and I'm just not convinced about how he has been acting.

Glace
First quick impression: townie
Why it's possible he is a wolf: Yes, he outed a wolf, but it was the worst wolf player and a vanilla except the killing ability that would be inherited by another wolf anyway. It could have been a cover up. Also Glace needed to reveal his ability anyway so the town would have the courage to get rid of The Guy.
The dead wolves didn't have very powerful roles afaicr so this could have been it.
Also, I was fairly suspicious of Glace earlygame. I probably didn't say that aloud though as I had no evidence and I didn't want any unecessary attention from the wolves in case I am right.

DoubleNikeSocks
First quick impression: townie
Why it's possible he is a wolf: Well, let's assume there is now one wolf left. So at the point when DNS was attacked there would have been two, right (again afaicr)? And now let's assume DNS is a wolf. The two wolves who are left decide that it has become near impossible to win the game, but they come up with a plan that the other wolf targets DNS, but because of DNS's ability the other wolf gets killed. A perfect cover-up for DNS, nobody should suspect him after that!

Cinesra
I talked before about me, who was put into the "same" situation as Cinesra. But Cinesra's situation was actually pretty different from mine...
It could be that he is actually a wolf and as he had the info that he had (from the poker game) it greatly decreased the chances of him getting lynched, as revealing that would make people think he is town or at least indie. Notice how Cinesra has been able to lay low ever since.

Teal
I talked about myself a while ago so just read that.

That's why I said "ruling out people with no solid evidence is very dangerous. The wolf could win because he is believed to be a certain townie if he manages to lay low."

 

[Nengeni]

RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 10 ends Sunday September 2nd at 11pm PDT

I'm not really sure how to prove myself as town. I'm going to assume that since there was no kill last night, the wolf is scared of me finding out who they are. This would lead me to believe that anyone who has used a night role three or more times is in the clear.

I've also added Teal's suspicions to the 6 of us that aren't in the clear.

People still alive:
RiskBreakers (Night role used 3 times)
Teal (Night role used 3 times)
Oyeah1988 (Night role used 3 times)
One Approved (Town Drunk)

Nengeni

First quick impression: mixed
Why it's possible he is a wolf: His ability still sounds wolfish and I'm just not convinced about how he has been acting.

Cinesra

I talked before about me, who was put into the "same" situation as Cinesra. But Cinesra's situation was actually pretty different from mine...
It could be that he is actually a wolf and as he had the info that he had (from the poker game) it greatly decreased the chances of him getting lynched, as revealing that would make people think he is town or at least indie. Notice how Cinesra has been able to lay low ever since.

Superpokemon67

First quick impression: townie
Why it's possible he is a wolf: Well, just like with the searcher nothing really prevents a wolf from being the target.

Bisharp37

First impression: Glaces says he knows Bisharp is town, mixed for me otherwise
Why it's possible he is a wolf: Nothing points against it either, except Glace's statement.

DoubleNikeSocks

First quick impression: townie
Why it's possible he is a wolf: Well, let's assume there is now one wolf left. So at the point when DNS was attacked there would have been two, right (again afaicr)? And now let's assume DNS is a wolf. The two wolves who are left decide that it has become near impossible to win the game, but they come up with a plan that the other wolf targets DNS, but because of DNS's ability the other wolf gets killed. A perfect cover-up for DNS, nobody should suspect him after that!

Glace

First quick impression: townie
Why it's possible he is a wolf: Yes, he outed a wolf, but it was the worst wolf player and a vanilla except the killing ability that would be inherited by another wolf anyway. It could have been a cover up. Also Glace needed to reveal his ability anyway so the town would have the courage to get rid of The Guy.
The dead wolves didn't have very powerful roles afaicr so this could have been it.
Also, I was fairly suspicious of Glace earlygame. I probably didn't say that aloud though as I had no evidence and I didn't want any unecessary attention from the wolves in case I am right.

Since it's obvious that I'm not lying about my role, the only question now becomes whether or not a wolf would have this role.

 

[superpokemon67]

RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 10 ends Sunday September 2nd at 11pm PDT

I'm not really sure how to prove myself as town. I'm going to assume that since there was no kill last night, the wolf is scared of me finding out who they are. This would lead me to believe that anyone who has used a night role three or more times is in the clear.

Unless I'm missing something, the wolf would just kill you if they were worried about you finding that info out.

 

[Nengeni]

RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 10 ends Sunday September 2nd at 11pm PDT

If multiple people target me, I get to kill one. Hence why the lone wolf killing me is a bad idea.


That is another reason why I can confirm oyeah is townie.

 

[Glace]

RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 10 ends Sunday September 2nd at 11pm PDT

I know superpokemon is waiting for love, and is town.

oyeah is also town, guarantee.

Could you explain your role? Do you target some, and then found out if they have used their role 3+ times, or do you know everyone who has used their role 3+ times?



And how would I know everything about TheGuy's night role if I was a wolf?