Finished Werewolf XIX-0: Arceus Team Mafia. Town wins (natch).

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RE: Werewolf XIX-0: Arceus Team Mafia. D2 ends Dec 1 2013 at noon CST

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In all my games I have never liked voting without information. Why lynch someone now and probably hit town when you could have another lynch at the end of the game that might win it all.

I mean, we have a 20% chance of hitting scum. Unless you have some magical way to lower the 80% chance we have of hitting town, I don't see the point.
 
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You should also not worry about lynching the wrong people early. Lynches (even town ones) are necessary to see how people interact with each other. The way scum interacts with a D1 town lynch can set them up for failure later on.
 
RE: Werewolf XIX-0: Arceus Team Mafia. D2 ends Dec 1 2013 at noon CST

Oh believe me. Keep using that playstyle, and you'll see how I participate.
I have no info to go off of.
Get off my back

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RE: Werewolf XIX-0: Arceus Team Mafia. D2 ends Dec 1 2013 at noon CST

Red Rain said:
Oh believe me. Keep using that playstyle, and you'll see how I participate.
I have no info to go off of.
Get off my back

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Nope, Mafia doesn't work by not participating. You won't have to participate when you're lynched.

##UNVOTE: KEEPER OF NIGHT
##VOTE: RED RAIN
 
RE: Werewolf XIX-0: Arceus Team Mafia. D2 ends Dec 1 2013 at noon CST

Wow you aren't that bright are you? Did you read before you posted that?

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RE: Werewolf XIX-0: Arceus Team Mafia. D2 ends Dec 1 2013 at noon CST

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Astra said:
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In all my games I have never liked voting without information. Why lynch someone now and probably hit town when you could have another lynch at the end of the game that might win it all.

I mean, we have a 20% chance of hitting scum. Unless you have some magical way to lower the 80% chance we have of hitting town, I don't see the point.
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The difference is, no lynch isn't an option this time around. Someone is going to die today, there's nothing we can do to stop that. If we don't lynch, it truly will be a 1/5 chance of hitting scum (assuming it's an even chance for each player to be random-lynched, we don't even know that for sure). If we lynch someone, it can at least be based on something, not just pure randomness.
 
RE: Werewolf XIX-0: Arceus Team Mafia. D2 ends Dec 1 2013 at noon CST

Also not liking Red Rain declining to participate. I get that day one means nothing to go off of, but I still don't think that's an excuse to choose not to participate. Just because it's day 1 doesn't mean that nothing happens. PB has gotten a lot better at making productive day 1s with the introduction of RVS. There is material to use, and I don't like that you're choosing not to use it.
 
RE: Werewolf XIX-0: Arceus Team Mafia. D2 ends Dec 1 2013 at noon CST

I have no info to use, and I don't like taking shots in the dark

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RE: Werewolf XIX-0: Arceus Team Mafia. D2 ends Dec 1 2013 at noon CST

I'm not declining to participate, just not wanting to mess up.

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RE: Werewolf XIX-0: Arceus Team Mafia. D2 ends Dec 1 2013 at noon CST

Red Rain said:
I'm not declining to participate, just not wanting to mess up.

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Why not? Afraid to get lynched?
 
RE: Werewolf XIX-0: Arceus Team Mafia. D2 ends Dec 1 2013 at noon CST

Okay. Since this is starting to get on my nerves. Let me tell you something.
I. Have. No. Info. I. Don't. Like. Shooting. From. The. Hip.

There should be nothing wrong with that, as it is a personal choice. I can't vote no lynch because it's against the rules, and I tend to do that with day starts. I understand that is something that is scummy, but I do not care.

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RE: Werewolf XIX-0: Arceus Team Mafia. D2 ends Dec 1 2013 at noon CST

Red Rain said:
Okay. Since this is starting to get on my nerves. Let me tell you something.
I. Have. No. Info. I. Don't. Like. Shooting. From. The. Hip.

There should be nothing wrong with that, as it is a personal choice. I can't vote no lynch because it's against the rules, and I tend to do that with day starts. I understand that is something that is scummy, but I do not care.

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Of course there's nothing wrong with that. There's also nothing wrong with me or anyone else dropping votes your way since you're being useless D1.

Do tell, how exactly are you going to gain information if you don't participate?
 
RE: Werewolf XIX-0: Arceus Team Mafia. D2 ends Dec 1 2013 at noon CST

I have my methods. I tend to bat ideas around and jump on any sort of scumtell as long as I can validate it with generally known info, like night actions and such.

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RE: Werewolf XIX-0: Arceus Team Mafia. D2 ends Dec 1 2013 at noon CST

Red Rain said:
I have my methods. I tend to bat ideas around and jump on any sort of scumtell as long as I can validate it with generally known info, like night actions and such.

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Have you ever played mafia games outside of PokeBeach or role madness games?
 
RE: Werewolf XIX-0: Arceus Team Mafia. D2 ends Dec 1 2013 at noon CST

Ok, yep. He's being honest guys. He broke out the one word sentences. He did that when Camoclone was attacking me in SheNinja's game (although, he was truly defending me due to scum, he was being completely honest)... So yeah.

Consider it this way: DNA got away without using Outside Communication in ASTRA'S game (DNA is dead, its not anything new). OC was the main way to gather info in that game, and DNA refused. DNA was only killed due to random lynch from a lynchee not getting enough votes.

I don't think Red Rain should be thrown votes at.
 
RE: Werewolf XIX-0: Arceus Team Mafia. D2 ends Dec 1 2013 at noon CST

Yeah outside of pb i have been in about ten.
If you are going to say something about the metagame or something similar, let me stop you. I would rather not hear it, as it holds no ground.

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RE: Werewolf XIX-0: Arceus Team Mafia. D2 ends Dec 1 2013 at noon CST

Red Rain said:
Yeah outside of PokéBeach i have been in about ten.
If you are going to say something about the metagame or something similar, let me stop you. I would rather not hear it, as it holds no ground.

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What's your ideal D1 then? Do you really prefer a no lynch?
 
RE: Werewolf XIX-0: Arceus Team Mafia. D2 ends Dec 1 2013 at noon CST

Yes. Unless somebody lands a sweet spot and nails and enemy. Then I strike.

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RE: Werewolf XIX-0: Arceus Team Mafia. D2 ends Dec 1 2013 at noon CST

Red Rain said:
Yes. Unless somebody lands a sweet spot and nails and enemy. Then I strike.

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So when exactly do you start participating? If nobody is talking or voting how are you going to lynch anyone D2?

It's not like the cop is going to come out after 1 investigation or any of the other power roles are going to say anything right away.
 
RE: Werewolf XIX-0: Arceus Team Mafia. D2 ends Dec 1 2013 at noon CST

We still have the night kill and stuff.
And I am done sharing tactics. I can't let my enemies know any more

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