Finished Werewolf XV II: The Final Frontier (RaichuGirl and Astra (wolf) win!)

[Flys Gone 2071]

RE: Werewolf XV II: The Final Frontier (Day 1 ends March 18th!)

You can't just put Astra off to the side with the label "non-dangerous indie".

I would vote for him if we have nothing by the last moment. I like KoN's idea though. It seems quite interesting (and might finish in my lynch though).

 

[Professor Palutena]

RE: Werewolf XV II: The Final Frontier (Day 1 ends March 18th!)

You can't just put Astra off to the side with the label "non-dangerous indie".

Why not?

It's not like non-dangerous Indie roles are absolutely unprecedented in mafia's history. You still haven't answered my question about what makes an indie dangerous.

Anyways, still not a fan of the SheNinja wagon, but it seems like the alex wagon isn't going to get going anywhere soon. I still think he's worth keeping an eye on though. The scummiest thing I think SheNinja has done was say that LuckyFire is useful, but that's... not exactly scum material at minimum.

Unvote:alex

Probably going to vote for Flygon closer to phase end, but there's still time for a new event to unravel.

 

[Teal]

RE: Werewolf XV II: The Final Frontier (Day 1 ends March 18th!)

Why I would prefer to get a wolf than an indie who might not even be dangerous: The abilities. The faster we get some wolves, the weaker they get. I do not defend Astra, stop claiming so. I am totally for an Astra lynch (sorry), but not now that I have an actual wolf suspect.

Flygon may defend himself with role info.

And Blui, what the heck? Randomly lynch a power role? lol? Have you ever heared about, like, defenses, role reveals and stuff like that?

LuckyFire is helpful? LuckyFire is unfortunately just as helpful as in Canton Falls.

 

[Blui]

RE: Werewolf XV II: The Final Frontier (Day 1 ends March 18th!)

@ Teal, just a random bandwagon where a newbie (a la SheNinja) gets voted, plays a poor defense and ends up being a PR. I know it is super-duper rare, but hey, we don't want to risk it.

 

[Dork Void]

RE: Werewolf XV II: The Final Frontier (Day 1 ends March 18th!)

You can't just put Astra off to the side with the label "non-dangerous indie".

Why not?

Because the only proof is that you said so. You should know that in a Werewolf game that's not proof at all.

SheNinja has revealed his role:

Except I'm a townie that only needs to stay in for 6 days. My character doesn't agree with the way everything works but they are in fact town. I will help with the win condition for town. My alternate win condition is staying in the game for 6 days, and I can be pretty helpful if I stay in the game. Unless Kecleon-X has some weird hidden ability, then I'm pretty close to vanilla.

The thing I find fishy is that he can win with the town or just win by surviving 6 days. Surviving 6 days could be an indie win condition or a lover win condition (town or not) or perhaps even a wolf win condition, but a vanilla townie would have no logical reason for winning after 6 days. For that reason I find his supposed role rather suspicious.

 

[Luckyfire]

RE: Werewolf XV II: The Final Frontier (Day 1 ends March 18th!)

LuckyFire is helpful? LuckyFire is unfortunately just as helpful as in Canton Falls.

Yes, sadly I have to agree. What is wrong with me? >_<
I feel so n00by...
But hey, it's only Day 1.

As for SheNinja- hmm... role reveal, eh? Looks indie-y. I'm not sure if you're just another clone of me partipicating in a first WW game.

 

[Chaos Jackal]

RE: Werewolf XV II: The Final Frontier (Day 1 ends March 18th!)

I mentioned the weirdness of SheNinja's role before. DV clarified my thoughts. I don't have much WW experience, but I doubt you can be town and survivor. Even if you are a Lover, Lovers usually have to make it to the end of the game. Plus, if a Lover dies, the other does too. So far, SheNinja hasn't tried to defend anyone but himself.
I still think he is suspicious.

 

[Flys Gone 2071]

RE: Werewolf XV II: The Final Frontier (Day 1 ends March 18th!)

I mentioned the weirdness of SheNinja's role before. DV clarified my thoughts. I don't have much WW experience, but I doubt you can be town and survivor. Even if you are a Lover, Lovers usually have to make it to the end of the game. Plus, if a Lover dies, the other does too. So far, SheNinja hasn't tried to defend anyone but himself.
I still think he is suspicious.

I am not convinced either but we can wait until D7 and we won't get hurt.

 

[SheNinja]

RE: Werewolf XV II: The Final Frontier (Day 1 ends March 18th!)

I understand the case against Flygon2071, but I think that an Astra lynch would be better. Flygon was just being aggressive to get reads, and now I believe his case. I will keep my vote for Astra for the time being.

 

[Poseidon]

RE: Werewolf XV II: The Final Frontier (Day 1 ends March 18th!)

Sorry for being inactive guys, life is crazy. I'll make a post later today or tomorrow.

 

[Glace]

RE: Werewolf XV II: The Final Frontier (Day 1 ends March 18th!)

NOBODY POST UNTIL SHENINJA ANSWERS... please ^_^

I understand the case against Flygon2071, but I think that an Astra lynch would be better. Flygon was just being aggressive to get reads, and now I believe his case. I will keep my vote for Astra for the time being.

Why? Why do you think the case against Astra is better? Who are your top 3 lynch choices (No lynch doesn't count)?

 

[SheNinja]

RE: Werewolf XV II: The Final Frontier (Day 1 ends March 18th!)

Until I answer this? Okay then... Now for Glace's question:

1) Astra (Seems suspicious to me. Post #402: "I win if I make it to the end of the game. That's really all there is to it." There just has to be something else to it.)

2) alex (All of his posts are 1-2 sentences that just go along with other people's beliefs. Post #401: "There is no reason to believe him." The whole post. Right there. 7 words.)

3) Flygon2071 (Seems too aggressive in many cases. Post #230: "Well but Astra is not a threat. Unless he is a wolf of course." That's the same with everybody. I think that Flygon is a wolf teaming up with other wolves (most likely Astra), but I'm not sure, so I'll keep me vote on Astra for the time being. If Astra is a wolf, I will vote for Flygon tomorrow.)

I think that Astra is the best lynch right now.

 

[Chillarmy]

RE: Werewolf XV II: The Final Frontier (Day 1 ends March 18th!)

Guys, its day 1, we have no leads. I see no logical reason why we wouldn't lynch Astra. If Astra turns out to be telling the truth, then we lose out on a useless indie role that could end up stabbing us in the back late-game to win. If Astra is a wolf then so much the better. And honestly, a miller role with no other better abilities seems fishy to me. I just don't understand why wouldn't go with the only safe lynch we have available to us.

 

[Flys Gone 2071]

RE: Werewolf XV II: The Final Frontier (Day 1 ends March 18th!)

Guys, its day 1, we have no leads. I see no logical reason why we wouldn't lynch Astra. If Astra turns out to be telling the truth, then we lose out on a useless indie role that could end up stabbing us in the back late-game to win. If Astra is a wolf then so much the better. And honestly, a miller role with no other better abilities seems fishy to me. I just don't understand why wouldn't go with the only safe lynch we have available to us.

Because we can scumhunt today and lynch Astra when we have no other leads. If we don't agree with anything, I will positively be voting for Astra.

 

[Chillarmy]

RE: Werewolf XV II: The Final Frontier (Day 1 ends March 18th!)

Guys, its day 1, we have no leads. I see no logical reason why we wouldn't lynch Astra. If Astra turns out to be telling the truth, then we lose out on a useless indie role that could end up stabbing us in the back late-game to win. If Astra is a wolf then so much the better. And honestly, a miller role with no other better abilities seems fishy to me. I just don't understand why wouldn't go with the only safe lynch we have available to us.

Because we can scumhunt today and lynch Astra when we have no other leads. If we don't agree with anything, I will positively be voting for Astra.

Why don't we scumhunt when we have a night of info under our belts and we aren't overexamining everything that everyone is saying?

 

[alex]

RE: Werewolf XV II: The Final Frontier (Day 1 ends March 18th!)

2) alex (All of his posts are 1-2 sentences that just go along with other people's beliefs. Post #401: "There is no reason to believe him." The whole post. Right there. 7 words.)

Do you realize that I'm the one that started the bandwagon on Astra?

 

[SheNinja]

RE: Werewolf XV II: The Final Frontier (Day 1 ends March 18th!)

I was suspicious of Astra from the start. You might've been the first to vote for him, but I was thinking about it for a long time.

 

[Keeper of Night]

RE: Werewolf XV II: The Final Frontier (Day 1 ends March 18th!)

I was suspicious of Astra from the start. You might've been the first to vote for him, but I was thinking about it for a long time.

That is irrelevent. No one can know exactly what you were thinking. If Alex started the Lynch, everyone just voting for no legit reason of their own is just part of the bandwagon.

 

[SheNinja]

RE: Werewolf XV II: The Final Frontier (Day 1 ends March 18th!)

I can know what I was thinking and I was suspicious from the start.

 

[Keeper of Night]

RE: Werewolf XV II: The Final Frontier (Day 1 ends March 18th!)

I can know what I was thinking and I was suspicious from the start.

Fantastic.
That does not give you any reason to say 'so-and-so is bandwagoner, very wolfie.'