Finished Werewolf XVI: A New Melee. Rejects Win.
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RE: Werewolf XVI: A New Melee. Day 9 ends eventually
Do we still have a priest?
Do we still have a priest?
RE: Werewolf XVI: A New Melee. Day 9 ends eventually
Thanks to who again? Oh that's right. You.
On another note, I think we can use the Dragoon pieces to track the wolves. Chillarmy had them day 7. He died on night 7 to the wolves-presumably one of them got the dragoon pieces. On night 8 Porygon-X targets MtC and gets the dragoon pieces from him. Anyone (specifically MtC) want to explain how this is possible?
Bo$$_89 said:
Thanks to who again? Oh that's right. You.
On another note, I think we can use the Dragoon pieces to track the wolves. Chillarmy had them day 7. He died on night 7 to the wolves-presumably one of them got the dragoon pieces. On night 8 Porygon-X targets MtC and gets the dragoon pieces from him. Anyone (specifically MtC) want to explain how this is possible?
RE: Werewolf XVI: A New Melee. Day 9 ends eventually
Pretty much this. I was still suspicious of Chillarmy at the time, and obviously I didn't want a wolf to have the pieces (even though he didn't turn up to be a wolf, but y'know, details). I also didn't want to lose track of them, in case someone else had the same idea.
Also, Bo$$, I don't think people consider us confirmed townies anymore. :\
Bo$$_89 said:
Pretty much this. I was still suspicious of Chillarmy at the time, and obviously I didn't want a wolf to have the pieces (even though he didn't turn up to be a wolf, but y'know, details). I also didn't want to lose track of them, in case someone else had the same idea.
Also, Bo$$, I don't think people consider us confirmed townies anymore. :\
RE: Werewolf XVI: A New Melee. Day 9 ends eventually
Siiigh... I will try to make more sense of this situation... tomorrow... I have a thought, but I need energy to investigate more... If I have enough motivation. :/
Just finished a game of WW that was a total fiasko: Bastard GM, lies and lies to players... ended up in both the players and the GM scooping. Kinda hits that what is left of my motivation in the two games over here too. :/ But don't worry, I won't scoop these... at least this game makes the most sense of the three (two) I'm playing. Kinda. Just need to uncover the lies, right.
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Siiigh... I will try to make more sense of this situation... tomorrow... I have a thought, but I need energy to investigate more... If I have enough motivation. :/
Just finished a game of WW that was a total fiasko: Bastard GM, lies and lies to players... ended up in both the players and the GM scooping. Kinda hits that what is left of my motivation in the two games over here too. :/ But don't worry, I won't scoop these... at least this game makes the most sense of the three (two) I'm playing. Kinda. Just need to uncover the lies, right.
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RE: Werewolf XVI: A New Melee. Day 9 ends eventually
Why me? I'm okay with you lynching me, don't know if MtC is, but I'd rather stay alive and help scum hunt. You can lynch me, but I did just drag out a post explaining how I was town. I am basically a vanilla mason now so it's not like I would feel like I didn't get to use my role
Luckyfire said:
Why me? I'm okay with you lynching me, don't know if MtC is, but I'd rather stay alive and help scum hunt. You can lynch me, but I did just drag out a post explaining how I was town. I am basically a vanilla mason now so it's not like I would feel like I didn't get to use my role
RE: Werewolf XVI: A New Melee. Day 9 ends eventually
Ok, I will analyze all players:
Luckyfire's role:
At this point obviously true / town. Yay this was easy.
Starboard Driger's role:
The flavour text is pretty short, and if it's legit it's pretty "poor" compared to the most flavour texts, but it manages to feel believeable to me, while also explaining why the ability works the way it does.
If the role is fake then the wolves at least managed to fake a creative (although bad) ability I guess. I mean, starting at night 8 a it's a great scout, but chances are the player never gets there, and a real scout would have had the chance to scout 7 people before that... It's definitely not impossible to fake such a role, but I could see the wolves going for more simple fake abilities. (If SD is a wolf, I believe that the ability is 100% made up and has nothing to do with his real abilities.) I see no real reason to suspect him based on Hidden Power.
His Final Smash seems really good, and if activated earlygame it could break the game as it is a lot more likely that a townie will get the Smash Ball than a wolf/indie. If SD is a wolf the FS probably is the same, but for wolves. That ability seems more likely to be in the game. Still, it's definitely not so broken that I couldn't believe it.
As for his behaviour, I think it has been pretty pro-town most of the time.
All in all, I will believe in him for now.
RaichuGirl's role:
The flavour text is pretty long and I think it's funny and something PMJ could definitely come up with. However, what appears weird to me is that "basically" was used twice in it:
The abilities seem believeable. "Problem, Mewtwo?" is funny and fits well with the role. If she claims "Double Team" she probably also has it. It is worth noting that it could still be a wolf ability, renamed. Pretty sure both townies and wolves could have such an ability, cause why not? Still, I don't see a reason to suspect her based on these.
The Final Smash seems weird. She will learn the abilities of the last to players... she voted for? Chances are, that those two players are dead (and when used at night she can't change the votes), and the FS is completely useless. That's pretty... underwhelming for a FS. On the other hand, if she breaks the Smash Ball at day, she could just go and vote for two suspicious players, and then activate the FS. So it would be a double scout and she would get trust, which is pretty good. Kinda situational I guess. All in all, the FS seems a bit weird but I can't say it's impossible that it's a real FS.
As for her behaviour I feel that she has been pretty pro-town most of the time. What I especially remember for some reason is as she admitted to holding a Dragoon part right away, which just felt pretty townlike to me.
All in all, I will believe in her for now.
Sorry, but this is really tiring and I can't do more today (when I post this it's 3:38 AM...).
My summerized thoughts about the rest right now:
- MtC and boss have hit me as somewhat scummy acting until now. Nobody would normally think that claimed masons are scum but nothing can prove that they are town for sure. I'd wouldn't even doubt them, though, if they had acted more pro-town, but really I can't say they have.
- Porygon/DV also seem like a possible scum pair, with the Zelda theme going on and they seem to have something to do with each other but nothing to do with Link.
For now I would suggest boss/MtC. If one of them flips town and what they claimed, we at least have a confirmed townie (well if they survive the night that is). In that case Porygon and DV should really role reveal D10, though.
Ok, I will analyze all players:
Luckyfire's role:
At this point obviously true / town. Yay this was easy.
Starboard Driger's role:
The flavour text is pretty short, and if it's legit it's pretty "poor" compared to the most flavour texts, but it manages to feel believeable to me, while also explaining why the ability works the way it does.
If the role is fake then the wolves at least managed to fake a creative (although bad) ability I guess. I mean, starting at night 8 a it's a great scout, but chances are the player never gets there, and a real scout would have had the chance to scout 7 people before that... It's definitely not impossible to fake such a role, but I could see the wolves going for more simple fake abilities. (If SD is a wolf, I believe that the ability is 100% made up and has nothing to do with his real abilities.) I see no real reason to suspect him based on Hidden Power.
His Final Smash seems really good, and if activated earlygame it could break the game as it is a lot more likely that a townie will get the Smash Ball than a wolf/indie. If SD is a wolf the FS probably is the same, but for wolves. That ability seems more likely to be in the game. Still, it's definitely not so broken that I couldn't believe it.
As for his behaviour, I think it has been pretty pro-town most of the time.
All in all, I will believe in him for now.
RaichuGirl's role:
The flavour text is pretty long and I think it's funny and something PMJ could definitely come up with. However, what appears weird to me is that "basically" was used twice in it:
It might also just be a way tho emphasize... something? Or to add a certain kind of flow. Not sure. Still sounds a bit weird to me, but it's not a huge deal.
The abilities seem believeable. "Problem, Mewtwo?" is funny and fits well with the role. If she claims "Double Team" she probably also has it. It is worth noting that it could still be a wolf ability, renamed. Pretty sure both townies and wolves could have such an ability, cause why not? Still, I don't see a reason to suspect her based on these.
The Final Smash seems weird. She will learn the abilities of the last to players... she voted for? Chances are, that those two players are dead (and when used at night she can't change the votes), and the FS is completely useless. That's pretty... underwhelming for a FS. On the other hand, if she breaks the Smash Ball at day, she could just go and vote for two suspicious players, and then activate the FS. So it would be a double scout and she would get trust, which is pretty good. Kinda situational I guess. All in all, the FS seems a bit weird but I can't say it's impossible that it's a real FS.
As for her behaviour I feel that she has been pretty pro-town most of the time. What I especially remember for some reason is as she admitted to holding a Dragoon part right away, which just felt pretty townlike to me.
All in all, I will believe in her for now.
Sorry, but this is really tiring and I can't do more today (when I post this it's 3:38 AM...).
My summerized thoughts about the rest right now:
- MtC and boss have hit me as somewhat scummy acting until now. Nobody would normally think that claimed masons are scum but nothing can prove that they are town for sure. I'd wouldn't even doubt them, though, if they had acted more pro-town, but really I can't say they have.
- Porygon/DV also seem like a possible scum pair, with the Zelda theme going on and they seem to have something to do with each other but nothing to do with Link.
For now I would suggest boss/MtC. If one of them flips town and what they claimed, we at least have a confirmed townie (well if they survive the night that is). In that case Porygon and DV should really role reveal D10, though.
RE: Werewolf XVI: A New Melee. Day 9 ends eventually
Something I realized about RaichuGirl, is that Roy has an attack that works just like Lucario's Double Team, called Counter. So, it's pretty likely she has that ability, but that doesn't mean she isn't a wolf.
Another tiny tidbit, look at the role. If she is Roy, and she copy/pasted the role from her character, it wouldn't say "this does not include the wolves kill" or something like that, because she's a wolf and it doesn't need to say that, assuming she is Roy, or course. The question is would Double Team work against killing effects that come from townies?
RaichuGirl and Starboard would be my guesses for the last 2 wolves.
Also, Boss, stop voting for everyone. No one is going to join your bandwagons, and Dark Void never reveals anything about his roles anyway.People also think that behavior is scummy, and you're making look like wolves.
Something I realized about RaichuGirl, is that Roy has an attack that works just like Lucario's Double Team, called Counter. So, it's pretty likely she has that ability, but that doesn't mean she isn't a wolf.
Another tiny tidbit, look at the role. If she is Roy, and she copy/pasted the role from her character, it wouldn't say "this does not include the wolves kill" or something like that, because she's a wolf and it doesn't need to say that, assuming she is Roy, or course. The question is would Double Team work against killing effects that come from townies?
RaichuGirl and Starboard would be my guesses for the last 2 wolves.
Also, Boss, stop voting for everyone. No one is going to join your bandwagons, and Dark Void never reveals anything about his roles anyway.
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