Finished Werewolf XVII: Universe - Game Over - Antagonists Win!

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If I had a dollar for every time someone said that "I'm town, lynching me is a bad idea", I would be able to pay off the national debt. Just saying. Maybe adding some reasoning to your statement might help?
 
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I can't specifically come out and say my role, but let' just say, if you have a night action, I will know about it if I target you with my ability
 
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My vote remains on camoclone because he does more harm than good to us right now, during the day phase. The fact that he has more votes than anyone else is just icing on the cake.

I don't want camoclone pulling a SheNinja and screwing us all over in the late game.
 
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PMJ said:
A final note before I head to bed (and this is directed more towards Porygon-X than anyone else but anyone who wants to host a game should take note):

I have had enough trouble getting people to post once a game day. Yes, even this early. If you start subbing out inactives this early you will run out before day three is over. Modkilling people due to inactivity is really stupid, especially late game when it's crucial for everyone to participate.

The game is going slow right now because we were thrown into the game and told "okay lynch who you think is the scummiest" with no clues as to who might be the scummiest.

I'm voting for camoclone not because I necessarily think he's scum. I don't think I could convince myself he was based off of what we know (which is nothing but "he plays aggressively"). I'm just going for him cause he has the most lynch votes right now and I believe at this point he is the easiest lynch. I want this day over so we can get the real game started. I suggest you people who are holding out join me; we can always go after your leads later.

UNVOTE: Hegafire0
VOTE: camoclone

Waaaaat

This is a terrible reason to post, and you should be experienced enough to realise it. camoclone has a power role, or at least he is implying it. Not just from what he said after the post, but from the fact that he was reluctant to say his role. Honestly, losing camoclone would probably mean losing a power role.

Don't lynch camoclone!

I have a somewhat good feeling about my lynch target, however

UNVOTE whoever i was voting beforehand idk
VOTE doublenikesocks

In a previous non-pokebeach mafia game I participated in, I was in a scum team were two people posted actively and one was idling throughout. I believe doublenikesocks is idling on purpose as a way of being ignored, having nothing to go on. The scum KNOW that the smaller amount of posts they do, the harder it is for village to see them as mafia. Of course, loads of people have been idling during the game. So what makes me pick out doublenikesocks from the crowd?

"There are far more obviuos and suspisious than I am."

Ignoring the spelling, this sentence just sounds scummy. I can't really identify why; it's a combination of the immediate defense and the deflection, where he doesn't give a reason for why he shouldn't be lynched, just that there are better people to lynch. He doesn't even identify who. Also in the post, he fails to give a reason for being inactive, other than "i have a life". Everybody has a life. He even admits that he doesn't have a proper defense. His posts have absolutely no substance whatsoever.

I'm not entirely convinced about Teal, but they seem like too muc of a risk to lynch at the moment.
Another guy to point out is Shocker, who bandwagoned camoclone with reasoning already mentioned before. That was his only post soooo
 
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@Eagle:

I disagree on the camoclone thing. When you're accused and role revealing as someone who doesn't want to reveal their real role (which usually means they're a scum or indie and always means they're afraid of what the town would think about their role, which isn't good any way you look at it) they will almost always claim a power role to make the town more afraid of lynching them. They might actually have a power role, but then they might not. I also find the wording "essential" role slightly suspicious. Essential to what? The town winning? Doubt it.

However, I do agree that doublenikesock's lack of activity and odd phrasing is mildly suspicious. Not enough for me to vote for him over camoclone, but enough to keep an eye on him (on a lack of him? We'll see).
 
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^ Yet you would still risk to lynch him even if there is a good chance that he has a power role? As far as I'm aware, very little people find him mafia, just annoying/will get the most information for lynch/too lazy in PMJ's case
 
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Eagle4 said:
^ Yet you would still risk to lynch him even if there is a good chance that he has a power role? As far as I'm aware, very little people find him mafia, just annoying/will get the most information for lynch/too lazy in PMJ's case

Even if his scumhunt might work (not very likely), it's really stupid to be that aggressive when you have a Power Role. That's why I don't think he has a PR, and if he does, it would mean he played EXTREMELY bad. Now you seem to be really sure that we can't lynch him. Why is that? Have you got any information available to you that we don't? Because from the way you are talking, it looks like you don't have any doubts about this "power role of his.

I'll mantain my vote for camoclone, boop
 
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I think MDL might be the Roadrunner.
I don't know if that's a good or a bad thing.
 
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Eagle4 said:
^ Yet you would still risk to lynch him even if there is a good chance that he has a power role? As far as I'm aware, very little people find him mafia, just annoying/will get the most information for lynch/too lazy in PMJ's case

If the town is afraid to lynch people who claim power roles (even ones who barely do that and give no insight to what they actually do) then the town will never win.

Maybe if he had explained what he did I would consider if it was worth the lynch, but right now we have so little info as to what he actually does that I can't find myself hesitating to see him lynched.
 
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MDL said:
Eagle4 said:
^ Yet you would still risk to lynch him even if there is a good chance that he has a power role? As far as I'm aware, very little people find him mafia, just annoying/will get the most information for lynch/too lazy in PMJ's case

Even if his scumhunt might work (not very likely), it's really stupid to be that aggressive when you have a Power Role. That's why I don't think he has a PR, and if he does, it would mean he played EXTREMELY bad. Now you seem to be really sure that we can't lynch him. Why is that? Have you got any information available to you that we don't? Because from the way you are talking, it looks like you don't have any doubts about this "power role of his.

I'll mantain my vote for camoclone, boop
Boop = Boop Beep?


Also it's claiming time:
I'm a semi seer... I'm partners with the seer and am in a chat with him. He tells me who he seered and the result. Then I report it to you guys.
 
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DNA said:
My vote remains on camoclone because he does more harm than good to us right now, during the day phase. The fact that he has more votes than anyone else is just icing on the cake.

I don't want camoclone pulling a SheNinja and screwing us all over in the late game.
How exactly do I hurt us?
 
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Okay... Camo, why exactly did you claim. No one was pressuring you to claim... And we can't even know if you are the semi-seer, we can only trust word of mouth, and as you can see some of the players don't trust you. You really have no proof on whether or not you are the semi seer -.-
 
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James86134 said:
Okay... Camo, why exactly did you claim. No one was pressuring you to claim... And we can't even know if you are the semi-seer, we can only trust word of mouth, and as you can see some of the players don't trust you. You really have no proof on whether or not you are the semi seer -.-
I claimed because it was necessary... If you read the last 3 pages you would see that. Anyways I am expendable due to the fact that the seer will live. Also I don't except everyone to believe me... That's how it is with a role claim. The most I can do however is help the town now... Beep-Boop Camoclone out
 
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RaichuGirl said:
How the heck is "he has the most votes and I want night" a good reason? I've always seen trying to rush to night as a wolfy thing, as that's when they get their nightkill

Um, I didn't say anything about wanting night, so I'll thank you not to put words in my mouth. What I said was I wanted the day over so the game can really get started. I could not care less about whether it's day or night. I just want something real to discuss, not "wahh camoclone fos'd me, wahh I got voted" blah blah blah. It's ridiculous.

Now that camoclone has made his claim I would say that his days are numbered. PB has a history of killing DNA the seer at the first possible opportunity, so...

Kecleon-X said:
If I had a dollar for every time someone said that "I'm town, lynching me is a bad idea", I would be able to pay off the national debt. Just saying. Maybe adding some reasoning to your statement might help?

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Dark Void said:
If the town is afraid to lynch people who claim power roles (even ones who barely do that and give no insight to what they actually do) then the town will never win.
I would like to say that in a role madness game, pretty much everyone has a power role. In fact, strictly speaking, since in PB WW games there are no true vanilla townies, then we all would be considered as having power roles.

So claiming you have a power role literally means nothing in this game.
 
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PMJ said:
RaichuGirl said:
How the heck is "he has the most votes and I want night" a good reason? I've always seen trying to rush to night as a wolfy thing, as that's when they get their nightkill

Um, I didn't say anything about wanting night, so I'll thank you not to put words in my mouth. What I said was I wanted the day over so the game can really get started. I could not care less about whether it's day or night. I just want something real to discuss, not "wahh camoclone fos'd me, wahh I got voted" blah blah blah. It's ridiculous.
I agree! This too much OMGUS on me
Now that camoclone has made his claim I would say that his days are numbered. PokéBeach has a history of killing DNA the seer at the first possible opportunity, so...
You know what? It's a good thing I'm not the seer... This is how I come in handy.
Kecleon-X said:
If I had a dollar for every time someone said that "I'm town, lynching me is a bad idea", I would be able to pay off the national debt. Just saying. Maybe adding some reasoning to your statement might help?

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Dark Void said:
If the town is afraid to lynch people who claim power roles (even ones who barely do that and give no insight to what they actually do) then the town will never win.
I would like to say that in a role madness game, pretty much everyone has a power role. In fact, strictly speaking, since in PokéBeach WW games there are no true vanilla townies, then we all would be considered as having power roles.

So claiming you have a power role literally means nothing in this game.
 
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PMJ said:
RaichuGirl said:
How the heck is "he has the most votes and I want night" a good reason? I've always seen trying to rush to night as a wolfy thing, as that's when they get their nightkill

Um, I didn't say anything about wanting night, so I'll thank you not to put words in my mouth. What I said was I wanted the day over so the game can really get started. I could not care less about whether it's day or night. I just want something real to discuss, not "wahh camoclone fos'd me, wahh I got voted" blah blah blah. It's ridiculous.

Day over = night.
 
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Only in the strictest sense of the word. Also, way to ignore the part where I said I don't care if it's night; I just want to have a real discussion, and we can't do that with a day start. The past x days are proof positive of this.
 
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camoclone said:
James86134 said:
Okay... Camo, why exactly did you claim. No one was pressuring you to claim... And we can't even know if you are the semi-seer, we can only trust word of mouth, and as you can see some of the players don't trust you. You really have no proof on whether or not you are the semi seer -.-
I claimed because it was necessary... If you read the last 3 pages you would see that. Anyways I am expendable due to the fact that the seer will live. Also I don't except everyone to believe me... That's how it is with a role claim. The most I can do however is help the town now... Beep-Boop Camoclone out

You can actually quote your role PM if you want. And then literally paste it in the thread.
 
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Well, Doctors, you know what to do. Protect camoclone then. So camo claimed seer or something like that, so I guess we shouldn't lynch that beep.

UNVOTE: camoclone
 
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James86134 said:
camoclone said:
I claimed because it was necessary... If you read the last 3 pages you would see that. Anyways I am expendable due to the fact that the seer will live. Also I don't except everyone to believe me... That's how it is with a role claim. The most I can do however is help the town now... Beep-Boop Camoclone out

You can actually quote your role PM if you want. And then literally paste it in the thread.
That would give away my friend...
 
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