Finished Werewolf XVII: Universe - Game Over - Antagonists Win!

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camoclone said:
Also it's claiming time:
I'm a semi seer... I'm partners with the seer and am in a chat with him. He tells me who he seered and the result. Then I report it to you guys.

I'm not terribly inclined to believe this because this seems like an easy way to make an excuse for people you want dead because of your "scumhunting" or other reasons (such as them posing a threat to the wolves) and not actual seer results. It also seems incredibly stupid to accuse tons of people with little to no reason on day 1 if you expect to be able to report seer results and be believed following that.

camoclone said:
James86134 said:
You can actually quote your role PM if you want. And then literally paste it in the thread.
That would give away my friend...

If you mean give away your ally's role's name, I don't see the problem.
 
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Hey, yeah, great idea, let's make the wolves' job that much easier. It's bad enough you already said you were masons with the seer; no point in proving it since I don't think anyone actually thinks you're scum.

I think he's telling the truth, anyway.
 
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I'm not directly mason's beep-boop...
D_V stop being an idiot... Why would I give away my partner like that. You truly are naive... I can't tell if your an idiot or just plain old scum...
 
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If you reveal your role, and cut out your partner's name, I'll believe that you are what you claim.
 
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Hegafire0 said:
If you reveal your role, and cut out your partner's name, I'll believe that you are what you claim.

Same with me. Just cut out the partners name like this:

'Your partner is *name snip*.'
 
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UNVOTE doublenikesocks
VOTE Dark Void

DV:s behaviour has struck me as odd since the middle of the day and it is just getting worse. I really do believe that DV can't be such a bad town player so it seems more likely he is scum. I think he would "believe" different things and have different opinions if he was town.
 
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Btw. here is what I wrote about James yesterday but I decided not to post it as I wanted to see what he says first (so I sent this to myself as a PM):
IMO: If a wolf sender thinks that it's less suspicious to send a PM, they would have to think that there is no way that it would be brought up in the thread... but then they would probably realize that it might be, and they would become a target, so a wolf would probably not do it, unless the wolf is a real noob.

However, to me James' PM feels like something a careless townie is more probable to write, not thinking it might have consequences because a townie is less self concious of their actions than a wolf who must mirror their actions in order to maintain trust balance.
 
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camoclone said:
I'm not directly mason's beep-boop...
D_V stop being an idiot... Why would I give away my partner like that. You truly are naive... I can't tell if your an idiot or just plain old scum...

And here you can't read. I said if you give away your ally's role name then I don't see the problem. I still don't. Like others said, its easy to just snip away your partner's username if it is there.

Teal said:
UNVOTE doublenikesocks
VOTE Dark Void

DV:s behaviour has struck me as odd since the middle of the day and it is just getting worse. I really do believe that DV can't be such a bad town player so it seems more likely he is scum. I think he would "believe" different things and have different opinions if he was town.

Do you have any specific posts or examples? What is there that I'm believing that I shouldn't?
 
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The problem is as I said before I'm not technically a mason. Being a mason isn't in my role card because the seer chose me to be his mason partner ;). I wasn't a Mason at the start of the game...
 
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Explain please.
Besides, who's to say that lynching you won't hinder your seer buddy's efforts?
 
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camoclone said:
The problem is as I said before I'm not technically a mason. Being a mason isn't in my role card because the seer chose me to be his mason partner ;). I wasn't a Mason at the start of the game...

Honestly, I'm believing this less now. You say that you weren't a mason at the start of the game so I'm assuming that this means someone has a day-activated ability that they used on you to make the two of you masons. You're...a really weird choice for a seer who wants a medium to the town without exposing themself, due to both your playstyle and the fact that since not long after you posted here you've had votes on you.
 
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Dark Void said:
camoclone said:
Also it's claiming time:
I'm a semi seer... I'm partners with the seer and am in a chat with him. He tells me who he seered and the result. Then I report it to you guys.

I'm not terribly inclined to believe this because this seems like an easy way to make an excuse for people you want dead because of your "scumhunting" or other reasons (such as them posing a threat to the wolves) and not actual seer results. It also seems incredibly stupid to accuse tons of people with little to no reason on day 1 if you expect to be able to report seer results and be believed following that.

camoclone said:
That would give away my friend...

If you mean give away your ally's role's name, I don't see the problem.


You want to expose the seer? bye bye!

VOTE: Dark Void
 
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camo, I would like some info about your mason partner's role though, and I am sure we all would.
 
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Glace said:
Dark Void said:
I'm not terribly inclined to believe this because this seems like an easy way to make an excuse for people you want dead because of your "scumhunting" or other reasons (such as them posing a threat to the wolves) and not actual seer results. It also seems incredibly stupid to accuse tons of people with little to no reason on day 1 if you expect to be able to report seer results and be believed following that.


If you mean give away your ally's role's name, I don't see the problem.


You want to expose the seer? bye bye!

VOTE: Dark Void

I said the role name. I don't see how that exposes the seer's identity, unless I'm missing something here.
 
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Okay, camoclone, your story isn't adding up whatsoever. First you say that revealing your role would give away your partner, then you say that being masons is not on your role card. And why would this Seer use there "become a mason with somebody" power on the first day? With the person that is probably going to die today anyway? You have shown no reason for us to believe you, and if you really are town, the wolves are almost definitely going to kill you tonight anyway. Please explain yourself, and I may unvote you.

VOTE: camoclone

Also Glace, lrn2red.
 
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Glace said:
camo, I would like some info about your mason partner's role though, and I am sure we all would.
No we don't.


camo's claim is actually confirms him as town. If not now instantly, then in the long run.

Let us say camo is town:
It is probable that he will get nightkilled very soon, so why would we lynch him? The wolves will take care of him, let us not make their job much easier. If camo survives the night he can report us a townie/wolf. Yay!

Let us say camo is a wolf:
Obviously he will not get nightkilled. We will, however, notice that and can lynch him after a while. Also, claiming seer mason when it is not true... well, that would mean the seer knows he is a liar and a wolf! And when the seer dies and it turns out that the seer doesn't have the ability to choose a mason, we will know that camo is a wolf! So if he is a wolf, it is only a matter of time when he dies, he is not an "unidentifiable threat" on the last days of the game if he is a wolf.

Considering this and that camoclone is likely town (it would be a bad time bomb claim for a wolf), it is mindless to lynch him OR pressure for more information about his partner.

Okay, camoclone, your story isn't adding up whatsoever. First you say that revealing your role would give away your partner, then you say that being masons is not on your role card.
This is true, however what I said still applies. (I can think why he would first say that though.) There is no need to lynch camoclone at the moment.
 
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Dark Void said:
Glace said:
You want to expose the seer? bye bye!

VOTE: Dark Void

I said the role name. I don't see how that exposes the seer's identity, unless I'm missing something here.

Oops

I do need to learn to read.

UNVOTE


Though camo I want the info on your partner.
 
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*pops in*
Hi.
I don't believe camoclone's claim to be true, and if it is, he's being a bad player.
*pops out*
 
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Time for me to explain something...
1. For the sake of my role I don't want to post my role card. I have other roles outside being a semi-seer/ neighbor. I didn't start with being a neighbor therefore it isn't in my rolecard.
2. My partner has a role (or had a role which made me his neighbor. He is a seer.
4. Any more questions?
5. I'm pretty sure D_V is a wolf.
Skreeeeeeee
 
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When on the 20th does the day end? If it's midnight, we're kinda running out of time. We should probably agree on some route to take. Also Vote count please.

Obviously we don't touch camoclone today. I don't think he should've claimed because it's kinda puts a super big target on his back. Would be surprised if he lasts for much longer.

I'm still leaning towards James as our lynch today, but I wouldn't mind doublenikesocks either because he never posts in werewolf games.

Speaking of people who don't post:
13) Shocker
19) pokemeister899
25) Flys Gone 2071
26) Blah
27) doublenikesocks
28) Wailord_2

Would like to hear more from these guys because they've been very forgettable today.
 
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