Finished Werewolf XVIII: The Blank Game: Game Over! A winner is PMJ and RogueChomp

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RE: Werewolf XVIII: The Blank Game: Day 5 ends Saturday, October 26 at 12PM/Noon MST

I'm slightly confused about what is happening in he 5 hours I was gone, the stress of almost being evacuated from my house due to bushfires, having to choose the one thing that I could keep in the case of an evacuation, making sure my 3 pets were safe (yes, you guys are all that important that even though there are fires within a 10km radius of my house, I still play werewolf)... That was a bit confusing, /ignore

So, PMJ is serial killer, The guy is cult, there is no scum, silly IS saying there is scum, people believe silly is scum...

Yeah. Ok then. Well.

I'm going to address two things:

SoldiersSpirit, please answer my question, and stop avoiding it:

why were you so sure Eagle4 was scum?
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PMJ, I believe DNA said he blocked both night 1 and 2 recruitments for the cult. Although, it may have just been Camo's recruitment.
 
RE: Werewolf XVIII: The Blank Game: Day 5 ends Saturday, October 26 at 12PM/Noon MST

I'm not willing to follow PMJ blindly. It's possible that he is cult and he's saying this to make sure that no suspicion is put on him. TBH this would be an extremely strong play as cult. I'm not willing to follow without more evidence. I do believe he or someone on his team have been making these kills, though.
 
RE: Werewolf XVIII: The Blank Game: Day 5 ends Saturday, October 26 at 12PM/Noon MST

Sir Taco said:
I'm not willing to follow PMJ blindly. It's possible that he is cult and he's saying this to make sure that no suspicion is put on him. TBH this would be an extremely strong play as cult. I'm not willing to follow without more evidence. I do believe he or someone on his team have been making these kills, though.
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You still need more evidence? How about I shoot you tonight? Will that be good enough for you?
 
RE: Werewolf XVIII: The Blank Game: Day 5 ends Saturday, October 26 at 12PM/Noon MST

PMJ said:
You still need more evidence? How about I shoot you tonight? Will that be good enough for you?
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heh

I think it's too risky of PMJ to try something like this for him to be lying. I'd advocate for sending roles to PMJ.

I think that the cop is looking for a number of indies, not the wolves, since there's huge reason to believe that there is no scum team.
 
RE: Werewolf XVIII: The Blank Game: Day 5 ends Saturday, October 26 at 12PM/Noon MST

sillykyle said:
James86134 said:
silly IS saying there is scum,
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sillykyle said:
I'm not saying there are wolves
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* sillykyle facepalms
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Well, if you don't believe there is wolves, then you're pushing it ever so slightly with this:

If there are no wolves then why does this exist
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Why would you put out evidence against something against what you believe?
 
RE: Werewolf XVIII: The Blank Game: Day 5 ends Saturday, October 26 at 12PM/Noon MST

The role cop can also verify claims and use that to appear town.
 
RE: Werewolf XVIII: The Blank Game: Day 5 ends Saturday, October 26 at 12PM/Noon MST

PMJ said:
Sir Taco said:
I'm not willing to follow PMJ blindly. It's possible that he is cult and he's saying this to make sure that no suspicion is put on him. TBH this would be an extremely strong play as cult. I'm not willing to follow without more evidence. I do believe he or someone on his team have been making these kills, though.
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You still need more evidence? How about I shoot you tonight? Will that be good enough for you?
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Go ahead. I'm not afraid. Threaten me all you want. This just makes you scummy in my eyes. What's that? Someone wants evidence that I'm actually a SK and not Cult? I won't give him any, instead, I'll just shoot him!

No.

I'm not saying that you are definitely cult. I'm just saying I'm not willing to follow you blindly. if you are cult, following you blindly will result in a loss for me and the rest of the town. So, instead of threatening to shoot me, how about you show some evidence. IF you were SK, why claim? No suspicion was on you, and you are unconvertable so you don't have to worry about that. I'm just saying, it seems all to perfect. Claim SK. Town believes you are working with them when you are actually Cult. Mislead the town and win. That could very easily happen, and if you want to shoot me for pointing out that we shouldn't blindly follow you because of that, go ahead. It'll just confirm my suspicions.

If you are working with the town, let us have a say in who you kill! Don't just wave the threat of shooting anyone who opposes you in their face. That's the opposite of working with the town.
Let us have a say in who you kill and I will be much more inclined to believe you. Until that happens, let it be known that I don't believe you.

Shoot me, I dare you.

##UNCURSE: TwistedTurtwig
##TAUNT: PMJ
 
RE: Werewolf XVIII: The Blank Game: Day 5 ends Saturday, October 26 at 12PM/Noon MST

Okay, first of all, my post was largely sarcasm, though I'll admit it's not easy to discern from text alone. Second, what? You ask for evidence, I say read the five consecutive posts I made outlining my reasons behind every kill I made, what I can do...

I can't win as long as the cult lives. As soon as they hit majority, they win. I claimed because I thought that the cult may have interfered with the scum's factional kill. As much as PokeBeach likes to think of it, there is p much no such thing as an inactive scum team leader. I gave them the benefit of the doubt for one night, but when it happened again--only my kill was happening--I knew something was up.

I hate the cult. It's impossible to balance and it could be considered borderline bastard modding to claim there is a mafia when there isn't one. I know if I had gone the entire game thinking there was scum when in fact there was none, I'da been super heated.

In addition to being able to kill a player every night and being immune to conversion, I can also strongman a player to death once per game. I honestly forgot I had it when I shot TheGuy, but I didn't think he'd have any sort of protection since the doctor was dead so I wouldn't have used it anyway.

Also, I'm open to ideas on who to shoot, but I'll end this post by saying that your willingness to be shot means you either have something which saves you from death, or some retaliation ability, which means you should be lynched, and not shot. If the town would agree with me, then I'll just shoot TheGuy or another suspect tonight.
 
RE: Werewolf XVIII: The Blank Game: Day 5 ends Saturday, October 26 at 12PM/Noon MST

I just realized, I've never known Townie James to stick to one target each Day. However, I've known Scum James to do exactly that. Plus, he tends to not vote unless there is a significant amount of votes.
James, if you aren't Town, you might want to start talking. I still remember all of your little quirks and stuff from when we played together during SheNinja's game.
 
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The reason I'm willing to be shot is to prove a point. If I was deathproof, I would have saved Paulutena's bow to use later.

Anyway, I'm a bit more inclined to believe PMJ now.

##UNTAUNT: PMJ
##RAZE: TwistedTurtwig
 
RE: Werewolf XVIII: The Blank Game: Day 5 ends Saturday, October 26 at 12PM/Noon MST

DNA dying was literally the worst possible thing. I definitely think killing PMJ is a bad idea as long as the cult leader is still alive. Without PMJ they get a recruit a night and we get a lynch, meaning we can only ever keep them at four, or however many they have, and there's always the chance we accidentally lynch town and they expand to five, then more. PMJ offers another chance at hitting cult. Yes, he can hit town as well, but I feel without PMJ we really don't stand much of a chance, at least until the cult leader has been killed.

One question though, If you can't be recruited PMJ, how come DNA prevented your alignment changing on night 0? (I'm not making any accusations, I'm just wondering)
 
RE: Werewolf XVIII: The Blank Game: Day 5 ends Saturday, October 26 at 12PM/Noon MST

Because he targeted me. His ability superseded my own. I didn't say it then because I wanted the cult to try and hit me again. If they ever tried again after night zero, then their numbers will be even fewer. But I'm not getting my hopes up.
 
RE: Werewolf XVIII: The Blank Game: Day 5 ends Saturday, October 26 at 12PM/Noon MST

So they could easily only have 3 members?
 
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Well, when DNA said he targeted camoclone, and he wasn't targeted to be recruited, it's possible that the cult went for me a second time, yes. It was public knowledge that camo was our only confirmed clear; it would be obvious that he would be protected since we knew of the cult's existence.

So it's not that much of a stretch to say they're sitting at 3, but for the sake of being safe I'll assume it's four.
 
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Red Rain said:
I just realized, I've never known Townie James to stick to one target each Day. However, I've known Scum James to do exactly that. Plus, he tends to not vote unless there is a significant amount of votes.
James, if you aren't Town, you might want to start talking. I still remember all of your little quirks and stuff from when we played together during SheNinja's game.
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Considering you're saying this now, I'm assuming you mean yesterday or today:

Today~

It literally started what... 16 hours ago? Oh, sorry. THESE PEOPLE ARE ALL SCUM: YOU, YOU, YOUand you

Yesterday~

Yep. I stuck to only one person. I was suspicious of both Grant, SS and Blui. But okay.

If you mean the other days! then please elaborate and post who The only person I stuck to today.

plus, he usually tends to not vote unless there is a bla bla, he's a bandwagoner
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I'm allowed to change how I play. In past games I bandwagoned... But in this game... Have I? I've found SS, Blui, Grant and you suspicious. And have voted for three of which. None of them are in the radar of others, so really I haven't been doing what you are saying I am.

Also, if I was bandwagoning, then I would most likely be voting TT right now.

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May I ask why you've been trying to put me under suspicion this game. Whenever some kind of bandwagon against TT is happening, you swoop in and give a few reasons on why I am scum, then leave.

I can go back and quote where you did this after PMJ posted the incident of you claiming to Camoclone.
 
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If you mean the other days! then please elaborate and post who The only person I stuck to today.
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*the only person I stuck to on those days
 
RE: Werewolf XVIII: The Blank Game: Day 5 ends Saturday, October 26 at 12PM/Noon MST

Forgot to change my vote.

##UNBANDWAGON: TwistedTurtwig
##DYE: TheGuy
 
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