Finished Werewolf XX: Seleno City

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RE: Werewolf XX: Seleno City - Day 5 ends Saturday March 1 at 11 AM EST

Hmm. All the posts and arguments for lynching TheGuy make sense but I'm still curious as to what exactly Chaos Jackal saw on TheGuy that warranted his suspicion. Since his ability is that he gets to know the names of the abilities, he probably inferred that TheGuy's ability he saw seemed wolf-like. But inferrence is very subjective. Is it too much to ask TheGuy if we could at least get the names of abilities? Not exactly a full role reveal but it could shed some light into the issue of why Chaos Jackal thought it suspicious. Is it the name of the wolves-being-able-to-communicate-with-each-other-ability? Or is it just something similar to Chaos Jackal's own ability, the names seem wolf-like/suspicious but it was because of flavor text/character and him being a miller. Maybe it could help us gauge whether TheGuy is indeed lying or not.

However, if this is against the rules, then...

... Eh, I could get behind TheGuy lynch.
 
RE: Werewolf XX: Seleno City - Day 5 ends Saturday March 1 at 11 AM EST

TheGuy said:
alex said:
So then what was the point of your last post? You aren't doing reverse reverse psychology, we all know that if you were you would've claimed your other role by now.

I posted that to explain that your logic doesn't make any sense. The point is, you can't infer that I'm a wolf just because I must be using reverse psychology. All I'm saying is that your situation is just as likely as me telling the truth or being seer. I'm not going to claim see because I'm not one. But what if I am? I could be just as likely to be lying about not being seer as I am to be lying about my claim.

Here's what I'm getting to, lynching me you me say is a win-not as bad loss, but it's really not because there's more possibilities than me telling the truth and me being scum. However, for the wolves this is small win-big win. Lynch me and I'm telling the truth, it's a small win for them, lynch me and I'm lying, then it's a big win for them. And you being my strongest opponent. I must:

UNVOTE: Professor Palutena
VOTE: alex

Now I really think you're lying about your role, given the way you are overexagerating the outcome.

They ARE no other possibilities, you just denied them... There are only two: You are lying about your role and you are wolf (or indie), or you are not lying and you are town.

If you are not what you say you are, out now. Otherwise stop talking about what could be because it is simply a waste of time and discussion.
 
RE: Werewolf XX: Seleno City - Day 5 ends Saturday March 1 at 11 AM EST

alex said:
Now I really think you're lying about your role, given the way you are overexagerating the outcome.

They ARE no other possibilities, you just denied them... There are only two: You are lying about your role and you are wolf (or indie), or you are not lying and you are town.

If you are not what you say you are, out now. Otherwise stop talking about what could be because it is simply a waste of time and discussion.

Just because I denied the possibilities doesn't mean that they don't exist. A townie is just as easily prone to lie as a wolf is. Because there are three options: I'm lying about my role and I'm wolf/indie, I'm telling the truth about my role and I'm town, and I'm lying about my role and I'm town. You for some reason believe that townies don't have a vested interest in lying when they most certainly do.

I've most certainly hinted to the wolves that I'm not who I say I am, which I very well could be, but at the same time, I've said what I am, which discourages them from killing me. They're left in a predicament, kill me and if I'm telling the truth it hurts them or leave me alive and if I'm lying it hurts them. So I'm not going to claim something else, I'm just going to say that I could very well be something other than what I've told you, and still town.

(Another thing, I'm also pretty sure CJ didn't see me because my two abilities are titled: Jar by the Door and All the Lonely People which aren't suspicious at all.)
 
RE: Werewolf XX: Seleno City - Day 5 ends Saturday March 1 at 11 AM EST

Eron said:
grantm1999 said:
Also Eron claimed vanilla and there's no more vanilla townies in this game.

Of course, I am such scum for saying something I didn't know, because I know the whole plot of this.

Please think before posting. I said I am town... is there any difference?

What.

...

What?
 
RE: Werewolf XX: Seleno City - Day 5 ends Saturday March 1 at 11 AM EST

TheGuy, I don't think you understand that you are about to be lynched.
 
RE: Werewolf XX: Seleno City - Day 5 ends Saturday March 1 at 11 AM EST

Your posts are really starting to seem more desperate TheGuy, which definitely makes them have a scummy sound to them. Also, why would CJ say to investigate you if he didn't target you and find something scummy? That makes no sense.
 
RE: Werewolf XX: Seleno City - Day 5 ends Saturday March 1 at 11 AM EST

RaichuGirl said:
Your posts are really starting to seem more desperate TheGuy, which definitely makes them have a scummy sound to them. Also, why would CJ say to investigate you if he didn't target you and find something scummy? That makes no sense.

Because he was suspicious of me that night. If he'd found something he would have posted it the day before he died on his list of people he was suspicious of.
 
RE: Werewolf XX: Seleno City - Day 5 ends Saturday March 1 at 11 AM EST

RaichuGirl said:
Your posts are really starting to seem more desperate TheGuy, which definitely makes them have a scummy sound to them. Also, why would CJ say to investigate you if he didn't target you and find something scummy? That makes no sense.

At least I wasn't lynched at 2 AM in this one -_-

CJ could not have investigated him and found something scummy. He didn't hint to TheGuy being scum the previous day and he would have had to send both of his actions in together last night. This is game setup, simple as that.

I still have no doubt in my mind that TheGuy is NOT scum, but whether he is indie or village I don't know, which is what I have said all along. Still, if he flips up indie I will be kinda surprised.

Tomorrow we lynch alex, OK?
 
RE: Werewolf XX: Seleno City - Day 5 ends Saturday March 1 at 11 AM EST

Celever said:
CJ could not have investigated him and found something scummy. He didn't hint to TheGuy being scum the previous day and he would have had to send both of his actions in together last night. This is game setup, simple as that.

Machamp The Champion said:
lovandra said:
Question to all:
WHY DO YOU THINK CJ ASK US TO INTERROGATE THEGUY?

CJ didn't mention him in his last post about people he suspect. Is they be able to interact to each other near his death or not?
I won't said TheGuy is scum so fast. He possibly have ability that make him be able to detect something?
Interrogate can be mean, 'He possibly known something useful, listen to him.'
But can also mean, 'He is suspicious, find out something more about him.'

this game is confusing
* lovandra likes it!!

In his list of his opinion of all the players, he only listed the active players. He probably didn't want to give us a hint that he has some way to inspect players in case he survived the lynch somehow.

Celever said:
Tomorrow we lynch alex, OK?

My thoughts exactly.
 
RE: Werewolf XX: Seleno City - Day 5 ends Saturday March 1 at 11 AM EST

Celever said:
alex said:
Ok. I like your reasoning.

You know my reasoning lol

All I know is that you don't think TheGuy is a good lynch and because I'm pushing him so hard you think I'm scummy.
 
RE: Werewolf XX: Seleno City - Day 5 ends Saturday March 1 at 11 AM EST

alex said:
Celever said:
You know my reasoning lol

All I know is that you don't think TheGuy is a good lynch and because I'm pushing him so hard you think I'm scummy.

...

We had a whole argument about different ways you were scummy and you said my logic was faulty and stuff... read back -_-
 
RE: Werewolf XX: Seleno City - Day 5 ends Saturday March 1 at 11 AM EST

TheGuy said:
(Another thing, I'm also pretty sure CJ didn't see me because my two abilities are titled: Jar by the Door and All the Lonely People which aren't suspicious at all.)

Well... It's still kind of hard to judge. If just going by the name of the ability, All the Lonely People does sound like some group/mason/communication related ability to me though.

And if CJ didn't investigate TheGuy at all, why specify him in his dying words then? I think he did. But I know there's no way we can tell that for now.

I suppose there's not much to discuss now, just have to wait if something will happen on the upcoming Night. Or, if TheGuy is telling the truth, the next Day.

Vote: TheGuy
 
RE: Werewolf XX: Seleno City - Day 5 ends Saturday March 1 at 11 AM EST

Reinforce said:
And if CJ didn't investigate TheGuy at all, why specify him in his dying words then? I think he did. But I know there's no way we can tell that for now.

We just talked about this, he couldn't have seen me because if he did he would have posted it in his final list of who he thought was town and scum. I'd guess that he included me in the final graffiti because he was suspicious of me because I'm quiet and don't post much, but that's just how I always play the beginning of games.
 
RE: Werewolf XX: Seleno City - Day 5 ends Saturday March 1 at 11 AM EST

Celever said:
alex said:
All I know is that you don't think TheGuy is a good lynch and because I'm pushing him so hard you think I'm scummy.

...

We had a whole argument about different ways you were scummy and you said my logic was faulty and stuff... read back -_-

The only other reason I can remember is unvoting a town before he was lynched.
 
RE: Werewolf XX: Seleno City - Day 5 ends Saturday March 1 at 11 AM EST

From the beginning of the day, it was pretty clear who the biggest suspect would be, since Maxwell left the town a message to interrogate her right before he was killed. So naturally, that's what the town did. Accusations were flung at Eleanor, as people pinned her of being a werewolf. Some urged the rest of the crowd to to reconsider, as all the message said was to question her, not to outright lynch her. But by the day's end, Eleanor had accrued the most votes, sealing her fate.

Two police officers escorted the old woman to the gallows, just to be safe. She might be old and frail, but if she was a werewolf, then they'd still have to restrain her. It took a long time for her to get there, as she hobbled with a limp. The noose was fastened around her neck, and she gave the crowd one last, sad gaze. She was returned with mostly stern glares.

"You all still think I'm the one you want?" she sighed. "I've lived in this city my whole life. These last few years have been especially hard. But maybe this is my time to go..." she began to cough, and her body shook as she did. All of a sudden, she slumped over, and didn't move any more. An armed officer checked her pulse, and concluded that she was dead. The noose didn't even have to be used.

TheGuy has been killed! He was:

Eleanor Rigby
Alignment: Town

You are Eleanor Rigby, a quiet old woman who spends all of her days in solitude. No one offers you any company, yet you still wait at your window and put on a happy face to mask the loneliness you feel. Your frail old bones have made it hard for you to get around lately, and you fear that you won't be around for very much longer...

Active Effect #1: Jar by the Door
- If you are passed an item, then the following morning, you will be notified of the identity of the person who passed it to you.

Active Effect #2: All the Lonely People
- If you die, then the next night phase will be skipped for your funeral.

Win Condition: At least one player aligned with the town is alive when all wolves and threatening indies have been eliminated.


Everyone was silent. What had they done? In their blindness, they had sentenced the poor old woman, who was completely innocent, to her death. This one was on all of their hands. It was decided that a funeral would be held that night, out of respect to her death, and the death of all the innocent victims so far. Upon hearing this, the werewolves cursed underneath their breath. This would deny them the opportunity to kill that night, butt hey had no other option but to go, as it would jeopardize their success if they were found missing from the funeral.

Also, earlier in the day, a flaming asteroid struck Ed Kennedy straight in the forehead, killing him, but no one was paying enough attention, and his death went unnoticed.

Teal has been killed! He was:

Ed Kennedy
Alignment: Self

You are Ed Kennedy, an underage cab driver without much of a future. You're pathetic at playing cards, but regardless, you still meet up with your buddies every week to play. Your life was one of both peaceful routine and incompetence. And then the first ace arrived in the mail. Now, you've been chosen to make your way through the city, helping and hurting (when necessary) until only one question remains: what is it all for?

Ability #1: I am the Messenger
- You have four different actions that may each be used once per game, but none of which can be used on the same night.
1.) Ace of Diamonds: Once per game, during the night, you may PM the host the name of one player.
2.) Ace of Clubs: Once per game, during the night, you may PM the host the name of one player.
3.) Ace of Spades: Once per game, during the night, you may PM the host the names of two players.
4.) Ace of Hearts: Once per game, during the night, you may PM the host the names of two players.

Ability #2: Joker [Locked]
- Use all of the actions of your I am the Messenger ability to unlock.
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Ability #2: Joker
- Once per game, you may PM the host to use this ability.

Win Condition: ???
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Win Condition: Outlive both of the two other players in the mason group you created.

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The next morning, everyone was relieved to find that no one had died overnight. Sure, no one was able to do anything, really, because of the funeral, but it was good nonetheless. Eleanor's sacrifice had given them a second shot at finding a werewolf. Maybe today would be the day that they finally succeeded in lynching one.

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Day 6 has begun, and will end at 5 PM EST, Monday March 10. A minimum of 8 votes are needed for a majority lynch.

Regarding Teal's modkill, I didn't have of an option besides modkilling him. He asked me to contact him, but I decided that it wouldn't be fair to the other players to keep him alive even though he was banned.
 
RE: Werewolf XX: Seleno City - Day 6 ends Monday March 10 at 5 PM EST

[v]Lynch Alex[/v]

I want this person dead today. He is clearly either an indie or a werewolf, as he has been really quite active but hasn't contributed much. He has had faulty logic several times this game misleading the village somewhat. I don't want anybody else dead today.
 
RE: Werewolf XX: Seleno City - Day 6 ends Monday March 10 at 5 PM EST

Celever said:
[v]Lynch Alex[/v]

I want this person dead today. He is clearly either an indie or a werewolf, as he has been really quite active but hasn't contributed much. He has had faulty logic several times this game misleading the village somewhat. I don't want anybody else dead today.

Excuse me? Hasn't contributed much? I've been contributing this entire game, I've just simply been wrong. We've lynched a total of ZERO wolves. Zero. That isn't just me, so what makes my contributions any worse than yours? Or the next guy's, or the next? In fact, the only person who actually fos'd a wolf was Camoclone with WanderingWolf.

And one of the main reasons we have not lynched any wolves is because we have absolutely no information to go off of. Every single one of our seers was killed off extremely early. We had one seer who's information we had, and that was TheGuy. He was our ONLY lead, and because of the role he claimed he was also a very safe lynch.

Now, I'd just like to point out, your logic has been even worse than mine. The only person we have lynched so far who I really wanted lynched was TheGuy, and I had obvious reasoning to go off, and it was a very safe lynch given his on-death ability. You got Chaos Jackal lynched, who was not only town (and a seer at that) but you had no outside reasoning to go off of.
 
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