Finished Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Members win!

[WanderingWolf]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 2 ends May 22 at 12 PM CDT.

PMJ, if the day were to end right now, with Cobalt and Keeper in a tie vote, what would be the result?

 

[PMJ]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 2 ends May 22 at 12 PM CDT.

If a majority is not reached by the deadline, then no one will be lynched.

 

[sillykyle]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 2 ends May 22 at 12 PM CDT.

Keep forgetting the dang hashtags.

##DYE: Keeper of Night

 

[Teal]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 2 ends May 22 at 12 PM CDT.

If the serial killer survives this day: Please consider killing Kecleon-X. It's to your interest to eliminate the wolves before the town, too.

 

[Kecleon-X]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 2 ends May 22 at 12 PM CDT.

The reason why I believe Cobalt is town: Because there is next to no resistance and everyone seems to agree that he is scummy... with horrible "evidence". Honestly I don't see the case at all. Like really not at all. Camoclone marked some posts in that "all posts quote" as "not contributing" while I actuallty felt that some of the posts tried to contribute to the game to his best ability. I think Cobalt even admitted later that his posts don't have much content but even then I have to disagree with him.

I truly believe there has been a ton of resistance. It took a ton of effort to get my points across. Even then there are still a lot of people defending CP. I really disagree with you here. There is more than enough evidence against him and next to none for him. I might agree with you if this was CP's first game but it is like his 4th game now.

This seems like a typical wagon on a townie. I have seen it so many times. These wagons always turn out to be townie. And some wolves are already on it. But the wolves have split their votes. They wouldn't all dare to vote Cobalt. They can just as well vote KoN. Of course their votes are split.

You and Machamp seem very content with the fact that this day is focused on these two (and sillykyle) and you want to keep it so, you say it's good so, you are content with their lynch. You don't question this case to the slightest. Because you are not town. Because you are a wolf.

This is a good point. However, I need to see what CB flips to get better reads right now. I truly believe he is scum but regardless we get so many reads when he flips.

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I agree wholeheartedly.

The reason why I believe Cobalt is town: Because there is next to no resistance and everyone seems to agree that he is scummy... with horrible "evidence". Honestly I don't see the case at all. Like really not at all. Camoclone marked some posts in that "all posts quote" as "not contributing" while I actuallty felt that some of the posts tried to contribute to the game to his best ability. I think Cobalt even admitted later that his posts don't have much content but even then I have to disagree with him.

You and Machamp seem very content with the fact that this day is focused on these two (and sillykyle) and you want to keep it so, you say it's good so, you are content with their lynch. You don't question this case to the slightest. Because you are not town. Because you are a wolf.

Yeah, I would say I am content with this, at least so far. I don't see why I would change it for just that reason. I mean, if I weren't, I wouldn't have voted for him. Besides, if he -- or someone else -- convinces me otherwise, I will unvote him. It isn't like my vote is a set thing. But that's beside the point. Being content with someone's lynch is by no means scummy -- if you think you found a wolf, like I think we did, then you would be the exact same way. It's rather hypocritical for you to say such a thing.

@Homicidal_Teal:

... Srs?

 

[alex]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 2 ends May 22 at 12 PM CDT.

Keeper of Night and Cobalt Phoenix are both such bad lynches, why is everybody voting them? Keeper of Night at least makes SOME sense (but not really cuz he was roleblocked), but the Cobalt Phoenix bandwagon is just awful and I agree with Teal that there are definitely some wolves hiding in these lynches.

 

[WanderingWolf]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 2 ends May 22 at 12 PM CDT.

Because the sillykyle lynch is so much better?

 

[alex]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 2 ends May 22 at 12 PM CDT.

Because the sillykyle lynch is so much better?

Yup.

Or any lynch, really. I've never been wrong with my noob townie reads. I can't read wolves all that well, but I can tell the difference between wolves and noob town easy.

 

[WanderingWolf]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 2 ends May 22 at 12 PM CDT.

Because the sillykyle lynch is so much better?

Yup.

Or any lynch, really. I've never been wrong with my newbie townie reads. I can't read wolves all that well, but I can tell the difference between wolves and newbie town easy.

Please, explain your obviously distinct case against sillykyle that would obviously be much better than a Cobalt lynch for the same reason.

 

[sillykyle]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 2 ends May 22 at 12 PM CDT.

His case in a nutshell:

I haven't posted much, only when I feel the need to respond to something or point something out. As opposed to how I normally play during the early stages of the game, in which I only post when I feel the need to respond to something or point something out.

 

[alex]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 2 ends May 22 at 12 PM CDT.

Yup.

Or any lynch, really. I've never been wrong with my newbie townie reads. I can't read wolves all that well, but I can tell the difference between wolves and newbie town easy.

Please, explain your obviously distinct case against sillykyle that would obviously be much better than a Cobalt lynch for the same reason.

Sillykyle has made posts that make me read him as scum.
Cobalt has made posts that make me read him as noob town.

That's pretty much all I got.

 

[WanderingWolf]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 2 ends May 22 at 12 PM CDT.

Please, explain your obviously distinct case against sillykyle that would obviously be much better than a Cobalt lynch for the same reason.

Sillykyle has made posts that make me read him as scum.
Cobalt has made posts that make me read him as newbie town.

That's pretty much all I got.

And what a strong case that is. Not at all coming down to you thinking subjectively. Lots of evidence and facts in there too.

 

[alex]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 2 ends May 22 at 12 PM CDT.

Sillykyle has made posts that make me read him as scum.
Cobalt has made posts that make me read him as newbie town.

That's pretty much all I got.

And what a strong case that is. Not at all coming down to you thinking subjectively. Lots of evidence and facts in there too.

So how about you give me the facts about the Cobalt Phoenix lynch? Because you are certainly making it seem like there are plenty, but really the only reason is that Camoclone thinks his posts aren't helping town and that = scum, and the rest of you are just bandwagoning.

 

[Cobalt Phoenix]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 2 ends May 22 at 12 PM CDT.

I dunno. I keep getting this off vibe from Camoclone. The massive amount of flip-flopping between KoN, Myself and Jeremy, all the intense aggression, blocking Teal's attempt at evidence gathering at Kecelon-X... I mean, I understand the Reporter role tends to be Town-based and all but I don't have the evidence to prove it right now. If Camo's strategy is to be super-duper intense and annoying, even outside of RQS, then that's just him. But... I dare not try to continue with it right now. Even looking through the wiki, it doesn't directly state the Report has to be Pro-Town. I'm probably insane thinking like that.

 

[alex]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 2 ends May 22 at 12 PM CDT.

Even looking through the wiki, it doesn't directly state the Report has to be Pro-Town. I'm probably insane thinking like that.

Reporter does not mean town. Even last game, the Werewolves had a reporter.

 

[Jeremy1026]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 2 ends May 22 at 12 PM CDT.

So, I'm a bit upset that TheGuy beat me to the punch. I was saving my Camoclone thoughts until the start of D3. Anyone who isn't doing things 100% the way that he wants or expects is without any shadow of doubt in his mind scum. Which isn't terrible, but the fact that his conviction changes multiple times a day, and in a complete 180, is completely ridiculous and super suspicious. Even though I was hoping to get Camoclone out via lynch on D3, I think we may need to keep Keeper another night and get Camoclone out of this game before he causes some serious damage to the town.

 

[Teal]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 2 ends May 22 at 12 PM CDT.

I dunno. I keep getting this off vibe from Camoclone. The massive amount of flip-flopping between KoN, Myself and Jeremy, all the intense aggression, blocking Teal's attempt at evidence gathering at Kecelon-X... I mean, I understand the Reporter role tends to be Town-based and all but I don't have the evidence to prove it right now. If Camo's strategy is to be super-duper intense and annoying, even outside of RQS, then that's just him. But... I dare not try to continue with it right now. Even looking through the wiki, it doesn't directly state the Report has to be Pro-Town. I'm probably insane thinking like that.

Reporter is 50/50 town or wolf. Both can benefit from it, both can have it.

I agree. Camoclone is suspicious. You are not insane at all.

However, he contributes. So it would be bad to kill him so early even if he was a wolf.

Camoclone always plays like this btw. You can't read him from his playstyle, however you can from his content.

 

[WanderingWolf]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 2 ends May 22 at 12 PM C

I'm defending him for the same reason I think your argument against him is dumb, and that he has done nothing else to make me think he is anything other than a newbie town (especially the role reveal).

Now...

Think about Scorched Feathers and Drohn in their first game. Scorched immediately started being an idiot, but pointed things out and tried to get some people in the line of sight. Drohn on the other hand, was logical and lead the town towards the end. He also tried to have an opinion on possible lynches and votes.

Cobalt, after three+ games before, has no substance, bandwagoned (without even posting the evidence at least try) and has only tried to defend himself. Not to mention that his 'ability' is useless if he never states an opinion. In my experience of safe-claims, they're usually either accustomed to the normal role, just with a town spin, or they're useless (to make sure that the town doesn't ask them for any information).

Cobalt's role is useless, meaning he either could be a deadweight, or a wolf.

To add on to this, I now think he's a wolf. hence why I voted him.

 

[Cobalt Phoenix]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 2 ends May 22 at 12 PM CDT.

Also, just throwing this out there, if Camoclone is indeed scum, the anon message for today makes a little more sense.

Lynch Grant, CP or KoN tomorrow unless something drastic happens. Look at how CB hammered. And how he didn't have enough reasons at first but now he does. Nothing changed.

I'm seeing the addition of requesting Grant's lynch as an alibi for scum's actions over the night. Again, I'm thinking insane and out of the box, but that's how these games work. I'm not voting yet, but I want to hear everyone's thoughts first.

 

[sillykyle]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 2 ends May 22 at 12 PM CDT.

Please, explain your obviously distinct case against sillykyle that would obviously be much better than a Cobalt lynch for the same reason.

sillykyle has made posts that make me read him as scum.
Cobalt has made posts that make me read him as newbie town.

That's pretty much all I got.

Such as?