Finished Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Members win!

[Machamp The Champion]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 3 ends May 29 at 11 AM CDT.

If you think Teal's story makes sense, I have to wonder if he's been editing posts.
I'm not lying, Teal did target me. Another member targeted me as well. Not fair that clearing me as town will make town lose another pr.

Empathy, empathy, put yourself in the place of me. We do not know for certain that you have the HINTZ power, so Teal claimed (lied) to have targeted you to see if you agreed with him. If you did, then you're lying about having that power. If you didn't, then you're probably telling the truth, since you wouldn't have been told Teal targeted you (although you could still be lying about it).

The logic of if KoN turns out to be town, then we lynch Teal has the same logic as "if the witch sinks, she must not have been a witch" during the Salem Witch Trials. And I think we all know how well that turned out.

That's not the same thing. In this case, Teal is saying that Keeper is lying about Teal targeting him, and Keeper is remaining adamant that Teal did target him. So one of them must be scum, since town wouldn't stick to their lies this closely.

 

[Keeper of Night]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 3 ends May 29 at 11 AM CDT.

I understand, MtC. I do.
But if Teal is town, I cannot fathom why he would ask me to reveal that he has an ability. The way scum will see it is that I have no reason to lie, so I must be telling the truth. Assuming Teal is town, I don't expect him to live. And then, when he dies, I'll be looked at as even MORE suspicious than I already am. Smh...

Or, if Teal is scum, he'll probably live anyway and push my lynch tomorrow because I "lied" about him targeting me. I dot think even he expects to survive after I flip town though lol.

Let's assume for the moment we are both town. Just for a minute. And that neither of us is lying about our abilities.
Why would Teal lie about targeting me after asking to confirm my ability?

Teal, can you elaborate on how you know Reinforce is town? If you're a seer, you'd see fake claims.

 

[GM DracLord]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 3 ends May 29 at 11 AM CDT.

KEEPER, this doesn't in anyway take you of the spotlight.

I've been on the chopping block since Drohn's lies D1.

Inconsistent of your statement about ability. A number of us don't trust you anymore. Relying on your so called passive ability isn't really helping us right now.

Please explain how I've been inconsistent.
I get that. Who does after Drohn decided to pick on me?
It's literally all I have besides unhelpful double votes. I have no choice but to rely on it (which is stupid, since it cant actually get me far. The others could claim the same as Teal, saying they never targeted me).

Unless you have 2 roles. I don't see why you will have a double vote and a watcher roles. Since I'm sure one of it could be you fake claim meaning that you are a mafia.

 

[Scorched Feathers]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 3 ends May 29 at 11 AM CDT.

May I put in that I see having Double Vote and Watcher in one role seems highly improbable? Think about that for a second, would you? We can thank Teal for having the intellect to lie about targeting. And how do we know if Drohn was lying or not?

 

[alex]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 3 ends May 29 at 11 AM CDT.

Bravo, Teal! Very nice play indeed! Based on Keeper's posts, I think it's pretty obvious you're telling the truth and he's lying. For once, I was right about someone being scum! I find it really suspicious how alex still doesn't understand what Teal is saying, even after he's pretty thoroughly explained it. I hope the town is active enough to get Keeper lynched today, because I really don't want a Reinforce lynch (not just because I believe Teal knows he's town. Based on his posts, and the fact that not that many people are defending him, I highly doubt that he's scum), and I REALLY don't want a no lynch today. At least if Keeper flips town today, we'll know to lynch Teal tomorrow.

##UNCHURN: Jeremy1028
##SPIKE: Keeper of Night

I understand what he is saying completely. I'm just not going to blindly believe him, and I'd rather take the safer path by lynching Reinforce first.

 

[Teal]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 3 ends May 29 at 11 AM CDT.

I understand, MtC. I do.
But if Teal is town, I cannot fathom why he would ask me to reveal that he has an ability.

To catch scum...

The way scum will see it is that I have no reason to lie, so I must be telling the truth. Assuming Teal is town, I don't expect him to live. And then, when he dies, I'll be looked at as even MORE suspicious than I already am. Smh...

Frankly put, I expect protection tonight.

Or, if Teal is scum, he'll probably live anyway and push my lynch tomorrow because I "lied" about him targeting me. I dot think even he expects to survive after I flip town though lol.

I don't expect you to flip town though. It would make no sense.

Let's assume for the moment we are both town. Just for a minute. And that neither of us is lying about our abilities.
Why would Teal lie about targeting me after asking to confirm my ability?

You just said let's assume we are both telling the truth, then why is Teal lying? Ummmmm??

Teal, can you elaborate on how you know Reinforce is town? If you're a seer, you'd see fake claims.

Not gonna answer this again... -_-

@alex: How is lynching Reinforce safer? For all we know KoN could be SK. In that case lynching KoN first saves us a whole player that is most probably town. (Actually most probably me.) I fully expect the serial killer to try to kill me tonight, if not for other reasons, to try to frame KoN. How can't some of you guys see that I would never, ever do this if I was scum? I had no pressure on myself. I have tried so many times to save a townie last minute but the town has never listened to me before (although in the other games they were just strong reads). So I didn't expect this to work, more like 30/70 sucess/failure. It's just such a bad idea that would most probably cost my life. And still. As town I can afford it because I'm getting a ton of reads for the town and trying to save another player I know is town and trying to lynch a player I know isn't town. Why can't you see that?

 

[Teal]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 3 ends May 29 at 11 AM CDT.

Please don't tell me the day ends in one hour.

 

[TheGuy]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 3 ends May 29 at 11 AM CDT.

Please don't tell me the day ends in one hour.

The day ends in one hour. Let me go find the vote count so we can see how we can at least

 

[TheGuy]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 3 ends May 29 at 11 AM CDT.

Reinforce currently has 7 votes, and Keeper 6. We need 10 to lynch.

I'm going to move my vote to Reinforce to get a lynch even if I don't think he's the best lynch.

##unvote: Keeper of Night
##vote: Reinforce

 

[Teal]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 3 ends May 29 at 11 AM CDT.

Since a Reinforce lynch is still better than no lynch for the info:

##UNVOTE: Keeper of Night
##VOTE: Reinforce

This should be the current vote count, assuming KoN has double vote and nobody else has:

Reinforce: 10 (Keeper of Night, WanderingWolf, Cinesra, Athena, Porygon-X, Jeremy1026, r3versor, Scorched Feathers, TheGuy, Teal)
Porygon-X: 0 (WanderingWolf)
Kecleon-X: 1 (Celever)
Jeremy1026: 0 (Machamp the Champion)
Keeper of Night: 4 (GM DracLord, Jeremy1026, Teal, Scorched Feathers, sillykyle, TheGuy, Machamp the Champion)
SMP: 1 (alex)

Not voting: 4 (Haunted Water, Reinforce, SMP, Kecleon-X)

 

[Teal]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 3 ends May 29 at 11 AM CDT.

In case I die tonight (please don't let me), please look at the happenings of this day very, very carefully. Also, lynch that damn lier KoN and Athena just seems so scummy to me.

 

[PMJ]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 3 ends May 29 at 11 AM CDT.

Game freeze.

 

[PMJ]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 3 ends May 29 at 11 AM CDT.

End Day 3.

Final vote count:

LYNCHED Reinforce: 10 (Keeper of Night, WanderingWolf, Cinesra, Athena, Porygon-X, Jeremy1026, rev3rsor, Scorched Feathers TheGuy, Teal)
Porygon-X: 0 (WanderingWolf)
Kecleon-X: 1 (Celever)
Jeremy1026: 0 (Machamp The Champion)
Keeper of Night: 4 (GM DracLord, Teal Scorched Feathers, sillykyle, TheGuy Machamp The Champion)
SMP: 1 (alex)

Not voting: 4 (Haunted Water, Reinforoe, SMP, Kecleon-X)

Day 3

As expected, the discussion of the day was the previous day's two ban candidates. With the deadline swiftly approaching, a few people changed their minds and reported Reinforce. WPM came into the thread fast as balls and banned that sucka, revealing his true identity:

Role: Meaty
Alignment: Members

You are Meaty, a member of PokeBeach Forums. You heard a rumor that WPM was meatier than you. That is obviously not true, but you're rebelling because it's fun.

Passive Effect: Meaty
If you would be killed at night, you will die at the end of the next day instead of the end of the current night. During that day, your vote weight is zero.

Win Condition: All non-Members eliminated

Begin Night 3. Deadline: Saturday, May 31, 4 PM CDT.

Thank you (almost all of you) or being active. If you guys want this exciting game to continue, then submit your night roles ASAP. If you have an ability but do not wish to use it tonight, then please PM me No Action for this night.

 

[PMJ]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 4 ends June 5 at 11 AM CDT.

End Night 3.

Night 3

So the super mods were feeling pretty good. None of them had been caught out yet. WPM congratulated them, then told them to get back to work because he was feeling bored. After a lengthy discussion, they decided that Teal would be destroyed. omahanime logged into the Admin CP, went to Teal's profile, and banned him post haste, revealing his true identity:

Role: Crystal Hikara
Alignment: Members

You are Crystal Hikara, a member of PokeBeach Forums. As a girl, you automatically hold sway over pretty much everyone, and you will be using that to your advantage in this conflict.

Ability: omg boobs
Once each night you may PM me the name of a player. You will walk up to them and show them some cleavage, distracting them from acting during that night.

Win Condition: All non-Members eliminated

Job done, they all went to bed...

One member, however, stayed awake. He grinned to himself; three days and no one suspected a thing. Who would be his unlucky victim tonight? He looked at his report history. Athena, that jerk. Warned him for not liking butts. How dare she? She needed to go. The member went to her profile, deleted her avatar and bio just to be funny, and then banned the hell out of her, revealing her true identity:

Role: Uralya
Alignment: Super Mods

You are Uralya, co-head of competitive VG on PokeBeach Forums. You want the rebellion quelled, simply put. You think that this conflict might make for a good story someday.

Passive Effect: Creative License
Your kill bypasses all protection.

Ability: Jail
Once each night you may PM me the name of a player. You will throw that user in the forum jail for a night, preventing them from using any abilities.

Win Condition: Super Mods outnumber all players

He cackled with glee. and then went to join the others.

Begin Day 4. Deadline: June 5, 11 AM CDT.

Players alive: 15 (8 to lynch).

SMP is forcibly replaced by Starboard Driger.

 

[alex]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 4 ends June 5 at 11 AM CDT.

Well, that's one Wolf down at least.

KoN seems like the easy kill here, but there is a lot of stuff that just doesn't add up. How did Teal know KoN wasn't town? The fact that he was right about Reinforce might have meant that Teal had a dream or something, but I'm a little skeptical. Has anyone else had a dream or any ability of the sort?

The wolves may have also killed Teal to try to WIFOM, to put even more suspicion on KoN. But that might be a stretch.

 

[Jeremy1026]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 4 ends June 5 at 11 AM CDT.

So, even with Teal out of the picture, and with his information about Reinforce being correct, I think we should follow through with his late Day 2 push in lynching KoN. Thoughts?

 

[alex]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 4 ends June 5 at 11 AM CDT.

Has anyone else had a dream or any ability of the sort?

Sorry for the double post, this doesn't really make sense. I meant been the target of an ability of the sort.

 

[Keeper of Night]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 4 ends June 5 at 11 AM CDT.

Can't say I'm surprised.
Teal lied about her ability, but the fact that they knew she had one made her an easy target. Do we not have a doctor?
She lied about the ability she had, but I was right in that there was a role-blocker on me after Drohn called me out.

And looks like we have our first crossfire. Funny that the SK would kill her though, as she had been under some speculation at least.

 

[Keeper of Night]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 4 ends June 5 at 11 AM CDT.

Sorry for double-post.

KoN seems like the easy kill here, but there is a lot of stuff that just doesn't add up. How did Teal know KoN wasn't town?
She can't "know I'm not town" because I am. Though, I suppose anyone would say the same.
The fact that he was right about Reinforce might have meant that Teal had a dream or something, but I'm a little skeptical.
If Teal had really known, would she have hammered? I know if I knew for sure who was a townie, I wouldn't. But that doesn't matter, since she didn't have the ability she claimed to have had, maybe she was second-guessing herself.
Has anyone else had a dream or any ability of the sort?
Actually, it would make lots of sense for there to be some abilities in the game that let you send messages to others (PMs). But the fact that we haven't seen any so far makes me doubt it.

 

[sillykyle]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 4 ends June 5 at 11 AM CDT.

^Teal is a guy lol

Whoever we lynch today should definitely be someone who was on that Reinforce wagon IMO. It was a stupid wagon to begin with, and was definitely driven by multiple wolves.