Finished Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Members win!

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RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 3 ends May 29 at 11 AM CDT.

Couldn't start defending before it was clear that your scummate was almost sure to get taken out, without risking sending a flag up on yourself, until it would be absolutely necessary.
 
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What I do also know now, is that Keeper of Night is not town. I don't know if he is scum or serial killer. I'm more tending towards actual scum than serial killer, but it could be either.
If you really knew this for a fact, you would have said so yesterday.
In fact, you never really cared about my lynch too much until Reinforce was put on the chopping block.
You know hammering is necessary. You can't say that hammering isn't town-like when its the only option we have to eliminate scum.
 
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Jeremy1026 said:
Couldn't start defending before it was clear that your scummate was almost sure to get taken out, without risking sending a flag up on yourself, until it would be absolutely necessary.
The fact that you show so much resistence is quite suspicious. A townie would definitely have to consider the possibility that Reinforce is town. Not only now, but before too.

It's like you know for a fact that lynching Reinforce is good for your win condition... normally only a wolf or an indie could know something like that for sure...

Your logic in that post is really bad by the way, because that's just not how it works.

Keeper of Night: Please answer me, have I ever targeted you?
 
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Keeper of Night said:
Teal said:
Keeper of Night: Please answer me, have I ever targeted you?
Yes.
Then why are you even asking why I suddenly changed my opinion on you? ;)
 
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Teal said:
Keeper of Night said:
Then why are you even asking why I suddenly changed my opinion on you? ;)

Because if you targeted me last night, I was not informed. You targeted me night before last which is why:
If you really knew this for a fact, you would have said so yesterday.
 
RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 3 ends May 29 at 11 AM CDT.

I have actually never targeted you in the first place. Thanks for confirming my suspicions towards you, though. The part about you in the longer post was actually just a trap for you.
 
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Teal said:
I have actually never targeted you in the first place. Thanks for confirming my suspicions towards you, though. The part about you in the longer post was actually just a trap for you.

Now you're lying. :p
 
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Keeper of Night said:
Teal said:
I have actually never targeted you in the first place. Thanks for confirming my suspicions towards you, though. The part about you in the longer post was actually just a trap for you.
Now you're lying. :p
"Now you're lying. :p "
 
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Teal said:
Keeper of Night said:
Now you're lying. :p
"Now you're lying. :p "

We could go back and forth all day.
Ok, so answer this:

If you never targeted me with your:
How I know this? I guess I will be pressured anyway if I give a vague answer, so I will just answer how I know this. Through ability (my ability is not seer).

That tells you:
What I do also know now, is that Keeper of Night is not town. I don't know if he is scum or serial killer. I'm more tending towards actual scum than serial killer, but it could be either.

Then you are leading a random vote.
But since you DID target me, why are you lying?

Either way, Teal, your story doesn't add up.
 
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Ohmy, definitive proof that KoN is scum? I wish I had a targeting role, I would have tested that theory myself. ##UNPANYRARA: Reinforce ##TARGETABLE: Keeper of Night
I do think we should actually push this lynch, everyone.
 
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Scorched Feathers said:
Ohmy, definitive proof that KoN is scum? I wish I had a targeting role, I would have tested that theory myself. ##UNPANYRARA: Reinforce ##TARGETABLE: Keeper of Night
I do think we should actually push this lynch, everyone.

...?
Read the post above yours, Feathers. Teal is lying about something.
 
RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 3 ends May 29 at 11 AM CDT.

I was suspicious of you, so I lead a vote against you in a way that I could get catch you on the spot if I was right. Sure, it wasn't true that I knew it at that point, but as you can see, my effort paid off.
 
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Keeper of Night said:
Scorched Feathers said:
Ohmy, definitive proof that KoN is scum? I wish I had a targeting role, I would have tested that theory myself. ##UNPANYRARA: Reinforce ##TARGETABLE: Keeper of Night
I do think we should actually push this lynch, everyone.

...?
Read the post above yours, Feathers. Teal is lying about something.
So? Are you implying that town is not allowed to lie to trap scum? o_O I've sucessfully done it before too. Twice.
 
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KoN, you're trying to take attention away from yourself again.
Gdi PC, posting too early.
 
RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 3 ends May 29 at 11 AM CDT.

You responded to every one of my posts quickly except the one questioning you. You waited until somebody agreed with you before continuing to argue your point.

Teal said:
alex said:
Teal, you're going to need to say more than "Reinforce is town gtg".
I said that because I actually got to go, but I needed to prevent a lynch.
WanderingWolf said:
And you know this how? Also, why not mention it earlier? He's had a ton of suspicion since his first post, right at the beginning of the game.
Why I didn't mention it earlier is easy. Because I wanted to get as many reads as possible while people don't know that he is town. That's why I asked the questions about Reinforce and KoN, to get the stance of as many people as possible for a player I need to know is town.

How I know this? I guess I will be pressured anyway if I give a vague answer, so I will just answer how I know this. Through ability (my ability is not seer).

I also know something else.

What I do also know now, is that Keeper of Night is not town. I don't know if he is scum or serial killer. I'm more tending towards actual scum than serial killer, but it could be either.

If you who is reading this are town, please put your trust in my honest words today. I also suspect MtC and Athena, r3versor, Scorched Feathers, maybe Kecleon-X. But what I do know for sure, is that Reinforce is town and KoN is not.

##VOTE: Keeper of Night

If I am wrong, feel free to lynch me tomorrow if you like. I can say that because I know I'm not wrong anyway. :p

Also, if you are town, please re-read the responses to my questions with this information in mind. Read how people treat these two "suspects". Anyone to vote for Reinforce after I said that, if they are town, they must be insane? Why would a townie vote at that point for him, ever? Are they wolves who don't want to turn around the result of the day? Probably. At least one of Scorched and rev3rsor must be scum. No townie would do that. But we can lynch KoN now, because he is not town either.
^From this post you're saying:
You have a seer-like ability that tells you Reinforce is town, and I am not. Right?
So if you never targeted me (which is false), you don't know that. If you had stuck to this story, I may have believed you about Reinforce. However, changing it when questioned wont help you live. The scum know I am not part of them, and now have a free pr to kill (assuming you are town) tonight.
Yeah... great plan.

Teal said:
The next person to vote for Reinforce HAMMERS him, that means the lynch will take place after that vote.

Keep in mind that townie would never, ever do that in this situation. If you wonder what situation, read my above post. Obviously, anyone who still does that, will be generally treated as a wolf.
(Unless this town is really reta...)
You are telling town to not do the only thing they can do eliminate scum. If that isn't anti-town, I don't know what is.

Keeper of Night said:
What I do also know now, is that Keeper of Night is not town. I don't know if he is scum or serial killer. I'm more tending towards actual scum than serial killer, but it could be either.
If you really knew this for a fact, you would have said so yesterday.
In fact, you never really cared about my lynch too much until Reinforce was put on the chopping block.
You know hammering is necessary. You can't say that hammering isn't town-like when its the only option we have to eliminate scum.
My points here.

Teal said:
Keeper of Night said:
Then why are you even asking why I suddenly changed my opinion on you? ;)
If I had lied and said no, you would have said the opposite. However, you asked.
Following your other question, this makes no sense. You were against my lynch yesterday, when you ACTUALLY targeted me. The only thing that has changed today is that Reinforce may be lynched. You're defending him with no proof, you realize.

Teal said:
I have actually never targeted you in the first place. Thanks for confirming my suspicions towards you, though. The part about you in the longer post was actually just a trap for you.
Ha. Like, really. Look back and read your own posts.

Teal said:
I was suspicious of you, so I lead a vote against you in a way that I could get catch you on the spot if I was right. Sure, it wasn't true that I knew it at that point, but as you can see, my effort paid off.
Your effort paid off? Ok, lets look:
You are lying about one or more of the following:
1) You have a seer-like ability.
2) You know Reinforce is town.
3) You know I am scum.
4) You never targeted me.

Not all of the above sentences can co-exist. Choose a story and stick to it, please.

Teal said:
Keeper of Night said:
...?
Read the post above yours, Feathers. Teal is lying about something.
So? Are you implying that town is not allowed to lie to trap scum? o_O I've sucessfully done it before too. Twice.
I'm implying that you're just blatantly lying, and it isn't catching scum.

Teal, you have openly admitted that you are defending Reinforce with no proof.
Or, you know I'm town, but for some reason want me dead over Reinforce.

I know you targeted me, but that wasn't last night. The only difference between today and yesterday is that Reinforce/Cobalt could actually be lynched, when yesterday you didn't have to push my lynch since it seemed inevitable anyways.
 
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Keeper of Night said:
You responded to every one of my posts quickly except the one questioning you. You waited until somebody agreed with you before continuing to argue your point.

I didn't wait for anyone to agree with me. I took a shower, and just now I came back from shopping for ice cream. Yes, ice cream.
Teal said:
I said that because I actually got to go, but I needed to prevent a lynch.
Why I didn't mention it earlier is easy. Because I wanted to get as many reads as possible while people don't know that he is town. That's why I asked the questions about Reinforce and KoN, to get the stance of as many people as possible for a player I need to know is town.

How I know this? I guess I will be pressured anyway if I give a vague answer, so I will just answer how I know this. Through ability (my ability is not seer).

I also know something else.

What I do also know now, is that Keeper of Night is not town. I don't know if he is scum or serial killer. I'm more tending towards actual scum than serial killer, but it could be either.

If you who is reading this are town, please put your trust in my honest words today. I also suspect MtC and Athena, r3versor, Scorched Feathers, maybe Kecleon-X. But what I do know for sure, is that Reinforce is town and KoN is not.

##VOTE: Keeper of Night

If I am wrong, feel free to lynch me tomorrow if you like. I can say that because I know I'm not wrong anyway. :p

Also, if you are town, please re-read the responses to my questions with this information in mind. Read how people treat these two "suspects". Anyone to vote for Reinforce after I said that, if they are town, they must be insane? Why would a townie vote at that point for him, ever? Are they wolves who don't want to turn around the result of the day? Probably. At least one of Scorched and rev3rsor must be scum. No townie would do that. But we can lynch KoN now, because he is not town either.
^From this post you're saying:
You have a seer-like ability that tells you Reinforce is town, and I am not. Right?
So if you never targeted me (which is false), you don't know that. If you had stuck to this story, I may have believed you about Reinforce. However, changing it when questioned wont help you live. The scum know I am not part of them, and now have a free pr to kill (assuming you are town) tonight.
Yeah... great plan.

How many times do I have to repeat to you that I used the post to also set up a trap for you?
Teal said:
The next person to vote for Reinforce HAMMERS him, that means the lynch will take place after that vote.

Keep in mind that townie would never, ever do that in this situation. If you wonder what situation, read my above post. Obviously, anyone who still does that, will be generally treated as a wolf. (Unless this town is really reta...)
You are telling town to not do the only thing they can do eliminate scum. If that isn't anti-town, I don't know what is.

It would be antitown to tell the town to hammer him or hammer him myself while I know that he is town. That's a really desperate and stupid accusation you are making there.
Keeper of Night said:
If you really knew this for a fact, you would have said so yesterday.
In fact, you never really cared about my lynch too much until Reinforce was put on the chopping block.
You know hammering is necessary. You can't say that hammering isn't town-like when its the only option we have to eliminate scum.
My points here.

I never talked about hammering in general.
It's true I didn't care about your lynch that much yesterday. I tended for you to be town and thought that if you were the serial killer I would trust the roleblocker to block you the next night and probably then reveal you if you turn out to be the SK, or then at least keep blocking you.
However, the serial killer got a kill so I feel the treath is much more real than yesterday, so I came up with a way to catch you in case your claim was false.

Teal said:
Then why are you even asking why I suddenly changed my opinion on you? ;)
If I had lied and said no, you would have said the opposite. However, you asked.
Following your other question, this makes no sense. You were against my lynch yesterday, when you ACTUALLY targeted me. The only thing that has changed today is that Reinforce may be lynched. You're defending him with no proof, you realize.

If you said "no" I would have gone for a lynch of the other people I mentioned.
I'm defending him because I know he is town... >_>
By the way, if we were scum I wouldn't want people to voice their opinions on Reinforce because that would mean my scum partners would have to take a stance on it too.

Teal said:
I have actually never targeted you in the first place. Thanks for confirming my suspicions towards you, though. The part about you in the longer post was actually just a trap for you.
Ha. Like, really. Look back and read your own posts.

I think you should be reading my posts instead.
Teal said:
I was suspicious of you, so I lead a vote against you in a way that I could get catch you on the spot if I was right. Sure, it wasn't true that I knew it at that point, but as you can see, my effort paid off.
Your effort paid off? Ok, lets look:
You are lying about one or more of the following:
1) You have a seer-like ability.
2) You know Reinforce is town.
3) You know I am scum.
4) You never targeted me.

Not all of the above sentences can co-exist. Choose a story and stick to it, please.

I'm not gonna mention for a third time inside a post something I have mentioned several times outside it on top of it.
Teal said:
So? Are you implying that town is not allowed to lie to trap scum? o_O I've sucessfully done it before too. Twice.
I'm implying that you're just blatantly lying, and it isn't catching scum.

Teal, you have openly admitted that you are defending Reinforce with no proof.
I know he is town, how is that not proof enough?

Or, you know I'm town, but for some reason want me dead over Reinforce.
* I know your role is a lie, so I obviously want you dead over a townie.

I know you targeted me, but that wasn't last night. The only difference between today and yesterday is that Reinforce/Cobalt could actually be lynched, when yesterday you didn't have to push my lynch since it seemed inevitable anyways.
That's not the only difference. The reasoning for this I have already written above. Yesterday, I wasn't even voting for you. Again, the reasoning for this I have already written above. Scum would always want to lynch non-scum... look at my vote yesterday... oh I'm so scummy. Nobody should trust me...
 
RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 3 ends May 29 at 11 AM CDT.

I cannot even try to understand what you're saying, so how about you just say what you mean? It honestly isn't that hard.

Tell us if you have an ability. Tell us what that ability does. Tell us who you've targeted. Tell us, if you aren't seer, how you know alignments. Tell us how you "know" my alignment if you "never targeted" me.

You so obviously know something, and I want to believe that you're town for it. However, you did target me, so if you have an ability like you claimed, you know I am town. So why push my lynch over Reinforce's? That doesn't make sense if you're town.

That wasn't a trap, that was... Idk what it was.
Of course you would have said you'd move on. You're already lying so wynaut?

You know I'm telling the truth. You "know Reinforce is town" which he clearly isn't from his posts and your weak defense of him. And you "know KoN is not town." All you need to do, is CLEARLY say how.
 
RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 3 ends May 29 at 11 AM CDT.

Unless the majority of who I consider actual town wants to push me further on the issue, I'm not revealing more than I have. To me right now you just look like scum who is trying to get info on a town PR.

Also, to say that Reinforce "clearly isn't town from his posts" is pretty... stupid.
Why you clearly aren't town is obivious though, I don't see why people would want to lynch Reinforce before you in light of this information, so I see no reason to further elaborate.
 
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