RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 3 ends May 29 at 11 AM CDT.
Actually, in most cases, the person counter claiming someone else is more likely too be telling the truth. If a wolf is under no suspicion, why would they put themselves in the spotlight by claiming someone else's role? If they were already in the spotlight and needed to come up with a believable case, it would make more sense if they made up a believable claim, that could only be disproven if the real role came out and disproved them. Now, in most cases, a wolf wouldn't be stupid enough to claim something that could easily be counterclaimed, but it's more believable than the former. Wolves tend to try to think of their own role, so they blend into the crowd and remain unnoticed.
I have to say, I'm not a fan of repeating my case against someone every time I bring up that I want to vote for them. I usually do it anyway because people will ask about it, but every once in a while, I don't post it, and hope that people don't ask me and they remember my first case. This never seems to work for me, and it's a little irritating. It would be more convenient for me if people reread my posts instead of asking me to find it for them.
Anyway, here is my main point against him:
Oh, and I decided to read all of Jeremy's post again (I forgot the acronym for that), and here's all the scummy things I saw:
He seems pretty hostile for 1 or 2 players accusing him of being scum.
Even after people said they didn't believe his claim, he didn't "make up a new one", as Jeremy is saying here. (Some other people might've said this before, but I can't remember who right now.)
And every other post of his has been like 1-2 sentences, and has either accomplished nothing with it, or was bandwagoning. Most new players at least try to add something to their posts (one of his posts was "lurking" and nothing else). I would be very satisfied with a Jeremy lynch today, as I've said before.
Reinforce said:And to my readings, counter-claimers have it harder proving themselves. Claiming first is a show of confidence --- confident that you can't be proven wrong, and therefore there is a high chance you're telling the truth. Should no solid evidence surface, you're more inclined to be believable. And if you happen to be a lying wolf in that scenario, that's a bad thing.
Actually, in most cases, the person counter claiming someone else is more likely too be telling the truth. If a wolf is under no suspicion, why would they put themselves in the spotlight by claiming someone else's role? If they were already in the spotlight and needed to come up with a believable case, it would make more sense if they made up a believable claim, that could only be disproven if the real role came out and disproved them. Now, in most cases, a wolf wouldn't be stupid enough to claim something that could easily be counterclaimed, but it's more believable than the former. Wolves tend to try to think of their own role, so they blend into the crowd and remain unnoticed.
alex said:MtC why are you voting Jeremy?
I have to say, I'm not a fan of repeating my case against someone every time I bring up that I want to vote for them. I usually do it anyway because people will ask about it, but every once in a while, I don't post it, and hope that people don't ask me and they remember my first case. This never seems to work for me, and it's a little irritating. It would be more convenient for me if people reread my posts instead of asking me to find it for them.
Anyway, here is my main point against him:
Jeremy1026 said:So, I'm a bit upset that TheGuy beat me to the punch. I was saving my Camoclone thoughts until the start of D3. Anyone who isn't doing things 100% the way that he wants or expects is without any shadow of doubt in his mind scum. Which isn't terrible, but the fact that his conviction changes multiple times a day, and in a complete 180, is completely ridiculous and super suspicious. Even though I was hoping to get Camoclone out via lynch on D3, I think we may need to keep Keeper another night and get Camoclone out of this game before he causes some serious damage to the town.
This seems like a very wolfy post to me. Camo hasn't done an abnormal amount of flip-flopping this game (or maybe I've just gotten too used to it and barely notice it anymore ), and I don't really see how you think "Anyone who isn't doing things 100% the way that he wants or expects is without any shadow of doubt in his mind scum". I mean, I see it a little bit, but not to the point where he's pointing fingers at everyone who disagrees with him. Jeremy's opinion of Camo wouldn't be affected by Camo's play styles in previous games, so I find it odd that he's acting this strongly towards Camo just based off of his posts in this game. My point being this post may have been spoon fed to him by another scum member, possibly Keeper, since he's very obviously trying to defend him in this post. This could also very easily be OMGUS (oh my god you suck), trying to turn the tables on Camo instead of himself.
Oh, and I decided to read all of Jeremy's post again (I forgot the acronym for that), and here's all the scummy things I saw:
Jeremy1026 said:Camoclone said:I know what you are doing... But it could also work on LF you know. Also Jeremy is scum. Don't you agree? He doesn't read the thread. He doesn't answer my question. He randomly bandwagons. I think he needs to go today.
##UNVERB: KEEPER OF NIGHT
##VERB: JEREMY1026
You're question was irrelevant to the game though, you seem to just not want new players playing your game. It's cool though, new comers have to be scum I get it, it makes total sense since the roles are random and what not.
He seems pretty hostile for 1 or 2 players accusing him of being scum.
Jeremy1026 said:Teal said:Everyone, please do answer this simple questionary:
1. Do you think Reinforce is town or scum? (Why?)
2. Do you think Keeper of Night is serial killer, town or scum? (Why?)
Thank you.
1. I think Reinforce is scum, or at the very least a member of Porygon-X faction. His "do you believe this role" post gave me a vibe of, "is this lie believable, or should I make a new one up?"
2. I'm beginning to feel less and less that KoN is the SK, but I am having a hard time putting him into town. He is far too wishy-washy with his ability and isn't always forthcoming with the information he has received via his ability (assuming he actually has the ability at all).
Right now, I think that the best lynch for the day is to take out Reinforce, with that said.
##unplay Keeper of Night
##play Reinforce
Even after people said they didn't believe his claim, he didn't "make up a new one", as Jeremy is saying here. (Some other people might've said this before, but I can't remember who right now.)
And every other post of his has been like 1-2 sentences, and has either accomplished nothing with it, or was bandwagoning. Most new players at least try to add something to their posts (one of his posts was "lurking" and nothing else). I would be very satisfied with a Jeremy lynch today, as I've said before.