Finished Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Members win!

Status
Not open for further replies.
RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 3 ends May 29 at 11 AM CDT.

Keeper of Night said:
I didn't forget it, there was just no reason to bring it up. I already said I won't reveal who targets me, and for good reason. If you really must know, one person targeted me last night.

But there was also no reason not to bring it up. You should always tell the town the information you have if you've already claimed.
 
RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 3 ends May 29 at 11 AM CDT.

sillykyle said:
Err wait did the wolves try to kill the role Porygon-X or the player Porygon-X?

All names mentioned in the updates are player names, with the exception of any super mods mentioned during the nightly "wolf discussion about who to kill".

So it was the user Porygon-X who was nearly killed, not the character.
 
RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 3 ends May 29 at 11 AM CDT.

Reinforce said:
Cinesra said:
The fact that he even said that at all makes me suspect him. "Hey, guy's I'm TOTALLY TOWN. Nope, not a wolf, no sir.

So you mean, instead of testing the waters first and being hypothetical, I should have jumped the gun and claimed that it was my true role (which would have made me look suspicious AND stupid for claiming something no one believed apparently, which I only found out after what I did today) or claimed that it was a false reveal (thereby showing that I have something to hide and thus making me suspicious before I could explain myself)?

Or are you suggesting there was a fourth option I could have taken aside from saying a direct yes, direct no or asking what if? Enlighten me, please.

And I already explained why avoiding the issue on my first post was not an option I could have taken.
It was the execution that seems scummy to me. It felt to me like you were saying "Hey, guys, do you think I'm scum? Please tell me so I know how to act to manipulate you into not voting for me."
Machamp The Champion said:
@Cinesra, your accidental post technically contains a vote for Kecleon-X. Just letting you know in case you didn't want to do that.
I assume it doesn't count because I didn't unvote first.
 
RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 3 ends May 29 at 11 AM CDT.

If i join the bandwagon for Reinforce you guys will surely say something up with me.. so i'm staying voteless for a while..
 
RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 3 ends May 29 at 11 AM CDT.

Reinforce said:
@Reinforce, I gotta say, you aren't really coming off as scum to me. Although, you hasn't really addressed anything besides defending yourself. Reinforce, who do you think is scum?

I didn't really get a chance to? Haha. And while I'm under intense suspicion, I thought that even if I gave my opinions it wouldn't hold weight. But well, since you asked:

I believe the SK targetting Camoclone who was against KoN's hammering yesterday makes KoN less likely to be the SK, but this isn't a really solid suspicion yet, but I'll be keeping it in mind as a supporting hint should we get a stronger evidence pointing someone else as the SK.

I'm wondering about sillykyle.

sillykyle said:
On a side note, now that my mason buddy is dead, I see no real reason not to claim. I'm Porygon-X, mason buddy with the late Kecleon-X. I have no other abilities, and it seems the wolves tried to kill me last night. COME AT ME SCUM

Aside from his posts of the previous days having a tone that's strange, this feels like a hasty claim to make at this point. And with no one looking to challenge/question/prove this claim, if he were a wolf, nobody's going to look twice at him for the rest of the game.

Cinesra said:
It was the execution that seems scummy to me. It felt to me like you were saying "Hey, guys, do you think I'm scum? Please tell me so I know how to act to manipulate you into not voting for me."

Oh, I see... I admit that as it wasn't exactly me who did the role reveal, I needed to know everyone's opinion on it without confirming or denying what Cobalt has revealed (because it will obviously be used in arguments against me) and I got my answer. It was better than me jumping into the game ignorant and being surprised of what people think of me because of my predecessor's actions. If this was a side-effect of that act, I wouldn't begrudge you thinking of it.
 
RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 3 ends May 29 at 11 AM CDT.

Cinesra said:
I assume it doesn't count because I didn't unvote first.

Not only does it not count because you didn't unvote first, but I wouldn't have counted it anyway because I saw that you were just quoting a post.

:)
 
RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 3 ends May 29 at 11 AM CDT.

Reinforce said:
So you mean, instead of testing the waters first and being hypothetical, I should have jumped the gun and claimed that it was my true role

Ok whoa. Why would claiming anything other than your true role even be an option? You were going to lie about your role if we didn't believe your true one? You obviously have something to hide.
 
RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 3 ends May 29 at 11 AM CDT.

Porygon-X said:
Reinforce said:
So you mean, instead of testing the waters first and being hypothetical, I should have jumped the gun and claimed that it was my true role

Ok whoa. Why would claiming anything other than your true role even be an option? You were going to lie about your role if we didn't believe your true one? You obviously have something to hide.

Haha, no. What I meant was that I would be claiming that it --- the role Cobalt Phoenix revealed days ago --- was truly my role. The intended meaning and interpretation is different. This is in the context of the paragraph you took that phrase from, btw.
 
RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 3 ends May 29 at 11 AM CDT.

Celever said:
First people which come to mind as bandwagoning on this lynch are Kecleon-X and Cinesra (iPad, so I can't check back) so I will go ahead and ##CAMOUFLAGE: Kecleon-X.

tl;dr I am against a Reinforce lynch due to the kills last night and I don't see anything particularly wrong with Reinforce's phrasing. I am slightly more suspicious of KoN, but I am in two minds about it. Pointless bandwagoners on this lynch are scummy; so are main advocators.

Firstly -- I wasn't bandwagoning. If you would like proof, then see that I was literally the first person to react to his (Reinforce's) peculiarity of a post. I thought it was really odd to phrase it in that manner, and that was a really odd way to put it. I mean, why not just say "yeah, that actually was my role that Cobalt posted" and be done with it? Why ask if anyone believed it and act as though it was subject to change, if it actually was his role?

Reinforce said:
Porygon-X said:
Ok whoa. Why would claiming anything other than your true role even be an option? You were going to lie about your role if we didn't believe your true one? You obviously have something to hide.

Haha, no. What I meant was that I would be claiming that it --- the role Cobalt Phoenix revealed days ago --- was truly my role. The intended meaning and interpretation is different. This is in the context of the paragraph you took that phrase from, btw.

Then, if what you say is true, it was horridly worded.

But either way I'm with my brother on this on unless evidence is given to the contrary.
 
RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 3 ends May 29 at 11 AM CDT.

Kecleon-X said:
I mean, why not just say "yeah, that actually was my role that Cobalt posted" and be done with it? Why ask if anyone believed it and act as though it was subject to change, if it actually was his role?

LOL

You think it's that simple? I didn't.

If that's exactly what I had done, are you ACTUALLY saying there was a chance you and everyone else would have believed me?

Because I expected NO.

Now imagine that if in my very first post in this game, I, from out of the blue, said "yeah, that actually was my role that Cobalt posted". A role that apparently you all think is a fake claim, but I wasn't completely sure yet because I had just inherited it and entered the game.

Tell me that you wouldn't have immediately called me a liar then. Or call me an idiot for seriously claiming a role that majority thought was a fake claim (which for me is worse). Tell me that if this happened, I would "be done with it" with no questioning or demanding proof or explosive arguments that will follow. Tell me my expectation and prediction is wrong.

... Still wish I'd done that instead of asking all your opinions first?

Kecleon-X said:
Then, if what you say is true, it was horridly worded.

Sorry, is all I can say.
 
RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 3 ends May 29 at 11 AM CDT.

Everyone, please do answer this simple questionary:

1. Do you think Reinforce is town or scum? (Why?)
2. Do you think Keeper of Night is serial killer, town or scum? (Why?)

Thank you.
 
RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 3 ends May 29 at 11 AM CDT.

1. Do you think Reinforce is town or scum? (Why?)

I'm not sure. I thought that CP was town however Reinforce's actions today have called that into question.

2. Do you think Keeper of Night is serial killer, town or scum? (Why?)

Serial Killer. Scummy Posts, Vague Roles, and me believing Drohn.
 
RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 3 ends May 29 at 11 AM CDT.

Teal said:
Everyone, please do answer this simple questionary:

1. Do you think Reinforce is town or scum? (Why?)
2. Do you think Keeper of Night is serial killer, town or scum? (Why?)

Thank you.

1. Town. I guess I really don't have any other reasons than I'm getting a townish vibe from him, but it's not like there's any evidence against him besides people having scumish vibes.
2. Serial Killer or Wolf. Getting very scummy vibes from him. AtE, and some other minor thing I've already mention several times. (If you really want me to repeat them, just Control F something in my user title and you'll surely find them within the last 50 posts or so.)

Just to remind everyone, I would like Jeremy or Keeper lynched today. If you don't want to lynch Reinforce today, I'd recommend looking into these 2 and help spread the word of their scumminess today so they will be lynched instead of Reinforce.

@Jeremy, how many Werewolf games have you played before?
 
RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 3 ends May 29 at 11 AM CDT.

Reinforce said:
Kecleon-X said:
I mean, why not just say "yeah, that actually was my role that Cobalt posted" and be done with it? Why ask if anyone believed it and act as though it was subject to change, if it actually was his role?

LOL

You think it's that simple? I didn't.

If that's exactly what I had done, are you ACTUALLY saying there was a chance you and everyone else would have believed me?

Uhh, yes...

Now imagine that if in my very first post in this game, I, from out of the blue, said "yeah, that actually was my role that Cobalt posted". A role that apparently you all think is a fake claim, but I wasn't completely sure yet because I had just inherited it and entered the game.

1)You could have read the thread and come to your own conclusion.
2)If we did believe it was fake (which honestly I was under the impression it was not), were you just going to post a fake role? I mean, what the heck is your alternative? This brings me to the conclusion that you obviously have something to hide.

Tell me that you wouldn't have immediately called me a liar then. Or call me an idiot for seriously claiming a role that majority thought was a fake claim (which for me is worse). Tell me that if this happened, I would "be done with it" with no questioning or demanding proof or explosive arguments that will follow. Tell me my expectation and prediction is wrong.
Your expectation and prediction is wrong.



Teal said:
1. Do you think Reinforce is town or scum? (Why?)
2. Do you think Keeper of Night is serial killer, town or scum? (Why?)

1. May not be a wolf, but he for sure is not town.
2. I have always thought KoN was hiding something based on the inconsistencies with his ability claim. And as I said before I think it's quite likely Drohn gave us the correct SK. While I still think the odds are he's the SK, there's still the whole bit with the hypothetical roleblock and his kill still going through in the flavor.

So with that,

##REINFORCE: Reinforce
 
RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 3 ends May 29 at 11 AM CDT.

Reinforce said:
Kecleon-X said:
I mean, why not just say "yeah, that actually was my role that Cobalt posted" and be done with it? Why ask if anyone believed it and act as though it was subject to change, if it actually was his role?

LOL

You think it's that simple? Yes. I didn't.

If that's exactly what I had done, are you ACTUALLY saying there was a chance you and everyone else would have believed me? Clearly so, otherwise Cobalt would have been lynched yesterday.

Because I expected NO.

Now imagine that if in my very first post in this game, I, from out of the blue, said "yeah, that actually was my role that Cobalt posted". A role that apparently you all think is a fake claim, but I wasn't completely sure yet because I had just inherited it and entered the game.

Tell me that you wouldn't have immediately called me a liar then. There are staunch proponents of your survival just as there are those for your lynch. Where some would call you a liar, that just goes with the territory for everything, I'm afraid. Or call me an idiot for seriously claiming a role that majority thought was a fake claim (which for me is worse). It was your only play. They wouldn't utter a thing like it. Tell me that if this happened, I would "be done with it" with no questioning or demanding proof or explosive arguments that will follow. So what? If you are proven town afterward by some sort of event, or you convince enough people to let you live for the moment, then how could you turn that down? Tell me my expectation and prediction is wrong. Of course not. But that doesn't mean you ask someone if they believe your role before you share your "truth"! Come on! That's like telling someone a story, then pausing to ask if they believed it. That pretty much marks out everything you said prior, truth or no, as false, or casts reasonable doubt upon it.

... Still wish I'd done that instead of asking all your opinions first? Yes.

Kecleon-X said:
Then, if what you say is true, it was horridly worded.

Sorry, is all I can say.

Teal said:
Everyone, please do answer this simple questionary:

1. Do you think Reinforce is town or scum? (Why?)
Hm. That's a tough question. I think he was dealt a pretty bad hand by Cobalt Phoenix's "Peace-Out Maneuver", albeit the fact that everything about Cobalt still stands. How he's reacting now is like he's trying his absolute best to deal with whatever horrid hand he's been dealt, but he's dealing with it in such a peculiar manner that really... Irks me? I figure that's the best word for it. I'm going to watch him closely and determine my next course of action, but as it stands? I'd be content with his lynch just because he made it sound like his "Meaty" role was a safeclaim. But that's just my immediate, rash opinion, and as always, it's subject to radical change. I'll watch him to make a more valid judgement later, however.

2. Do you think Keeper of Night is serial killer, town or scum? (Why?)
I honestly don't have that big of an opinion on his guilt or innocence in the conventional wolf/town thing, but I'll tell you one thing -- I don't believe Drohn. Didn't from the beginning. Ergo, I do not believe that KoN is the SK.
 
RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 3 ends May 29 at 11 AM CDT.

Porygon-X, I'd like to know if you have any knowledge of why you weren't killed.

And I'm also mad confused at what Reinforce is trying to do here.
 
RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 3 ends May 29 at 11 AM CDT.

Teal said:
Everyone, please do answer this simple questionary:

1. Do you think Reinforce is town or scum? (Why?)
2. Do you think Keeper of Night is serial killer, town or scum? (Why?)

Thank you.


1. honestly .. he could be either or neither. But my bet is not for town. He could be the SK that we are looking for all i know

2. Although having those suspicious post. I do believe KoN is a town to certain degree.
 
RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 3 ends May 29 at 11 AM CDT.

alex said:
Porygon-X, I'd like to know if you have any knowledge of why you weren't killed.

Wish I did.
 
RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 3 ends May 29 at 11 AM CDT.

PMJ said:
sillykyle said:
Err wait did the wolves try to kill the role Porygon-X or the player Porygon-X?

All names mentioned in the updates are player names, with the exception of any super mods mentioned during the nightly "wolf discussion about who to kill".

So it was the user Porygon-X who was nearly killed, not the character.

Okay, thanks.
 
RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 3 ends May 29 at 11 AM CDT.

Reinforce said:
Reinforce said:
I'm wondering about sillykyle.

sillykyle said:
On a side note, now that my mason buddy is dead, I see no real reason not to claim. I'm Porygon-X, mason buddy with the late Kecleon-X. I have no other abilities, and it seems the wolves tried to kill me last night. COME AT ME SCUM

Aside from his posts of the previous days having a tone that's strange, this feels like a hasty claim to make at this point. And with no one looking to challenge/question/prove this claim, if he were a wolf, nobody's going to look twice at him for the rest of the game.

Except that if I were lying, the real Porygon-X would counterclaim me and I'd be dead within two days maximum. Nice attempt to take the focus off yourself though.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top