Finished Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Members win!

[Kecleon-X]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 5 ends June 10 at 12 PM CDT.

I told you guys Drohn was lying!

And then Keeper was a wolf. #idunevenkno

What's interesting is Drohn actually did not give us the correct SK but instead framed someone else who happened to be a wolf.

Yeah, I also find that odd. The Porygon faction could have a mason-messenger and he could be telling the members who and what are threats to their win condition, an item that gave him temporary seer powers, or it could just be a coincidence. If I recall he [Drohn] was a vanilla Porygon, wasn't he?

 

[alex]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 5 ends June 10 at 12 PM CDT.

Ok now remembering Drohn I am extremely confused. Why would Drohn out himself to say KoN was the SK if KoN wasn't even the SK?

 

[Celever]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 5 ends June 10 at 12 PM CDT.

Ok now remembering Drohn I am extremely confused. Why would Drohn out himself to say KoN was the SK if KoN wasn't even the SK?

He was getting lynched anyway. My guess is that Keeper's defenses were correct, and that Drohn did just want to get back at KoN for pushing his lynch, and that he just so happened to be scum.

 

[TheGuy]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 5 ends June 10 at 12 PM CDT.

Keeper may not have been the serial killer but he was scum nonetheless. The suspicion of him being SK led to the revealing of his scuminess was thoroughly investigated.

Lynch Leads:
Cinesra - I'm willing to believe that he's either town PR or he's actually the SK. The wolves want us to spend a lynch on him and I'd assume they wouldn't name someone (as it is very unconventional) unless it was someone they'd really want dead. Also I'd dismiss the logic that he's not suspicion because he seems town-like because the SK has much of the same goals as the town because his primary target would be to kill the wolves, at least at first. I'd for sure like to see his defense because he has been accused and he has seemed to act a bit wolfish by posting very little and he may be bandwagoning (I'd need to take the time to check but that usually comes along with the little posts).

SF - He's acted strangely, particularly over the last two days. And for reasons already stated, it worth consideration.

Verdict: Undecided, leaning towards SF although I'd like to hear from both.

 

[WanderingWolf]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 5 ends June 10 at 12 PM CDT.

@TheGuy: By very little, you mean not at all since he was accused?

 

[TheGuy]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 5 ends June 10 at 12 PM CDT.

@TheGuy: By very little, you mean not at all since he was accused?

Yes. That especially.

 

[Celever]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 5 ends June 10 at 12 PM CDT.

Hmm... Thinking about it, the most logical reasons as to why Cinesra didn't die via the wolves last night would be:
A) The wolves want us to waste a lynch. Hopefully not going to happen.
B) Cinesra is BPV and the wolves can't kill her normally without wasting a night, so they want us to lynch her.
C) Cinesra is scum and that was a shoddy buss.

I personally think B is most likely, but what do you think?

Also, if you see this... Thank you King Adrian for leading the cillage to a successful lynch!

 

[WanderingWolf]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 5 ends June 10 at 12 PM CD

Hmm... Thinking about it, the most logical reasons as to why Cinesra didn't die via the wolves last night would be:
A) The wolves want us to waste a lynch. Hopefully not going to happen.
B) Cinesra is BPV and the wolves can't kill her normally without wasting a night, so they want us to lynch her.
C) Cinesra is scum and that was a shoddy buss.

I personally think B is most likely, but what do you think?

Also, if you see this... Thank you King Adrian for leading the cillage to a successful lynch!

Highly doubting C, and B isn't possible since the wolves have killed ever day, I believe.

 

[Celever]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 5 ends June 10 at 12 PM CD

Hmm... Thinking about it, the most logical reasons as to why Cinesra didn't die via the wolves last night would be:
A) The wolves want us to waste a lynch. Hopefully not going to happen.
B) Cinesra is BPV and the wolves can't kill her normally without wasting a night, so they want us to lynch her.
C) Cinesra is scum and that was a shoddy buss.

I personally think B is most likely, but what do you think?

Also, if you see this... Thank you King Adrian for leading the cillage to a successful lynch!

Highly doubting C, and B isn't possible since the wolves have killed ever day, I believe.

Well of course. If they had tried to kill her once the BPV would be broken!

What I meant was that they might have something like an inspector and found her as BVP.

 

[alex]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 5 ends June 10 at 12 PM CDT.

BPV or even full night immunity is very possible for a SK role. It's definitely either that or the wolves found out who he was but wanted us to waste one of our lynches on him. There is also the possibility that Cinesra is just town but the fact that he isn't posting isn't helping him.

We can now assume that the wolves have a seer, though.

 

[alex]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 5 ends June 10 at 12 PM CDT.

Sorry for the double post, I guess we can only assume that the wolves have a seer if Cinesra is actually the SK.

 

[Cinesra]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 5 ends June 10 at 12 PM CDT.

If I were the SK and the wolves knew it since night 2, why would they wait until now to do something about it? I haven't been killed, nor has there been any push for a lynch against me until 2 whole game days later. Combine this with the fact that Keeper was a wolf who was about to be lynched and had been lying about his passive role (even got caught by Teal) makes me doubt why anyone would trust him. Keeper had previously tried to FOS (am I using this term correctly?) me for "bandwagonning" (which I dismissed and nobody seemed to disagree with my defense, not even Keeper) so I think he just went with some last ditch attempt to get the attention away from him and his fellow wolves and onto somebody who admittedly hasn't been very active.

@TheGuy: By very little, you mean not at all since he was accused?

Yes. That especially.

I generally don't say anything if I feel I have nothing to add. This goes for real life as well as werewolf. I don't get on pb every day either and because of this people will say what I'm thinking before I get the chance to or I'm away when developments go down like the whole Teal/Keeper incident and Keeper's accusation of me. I can completely understand if my general lack of posting would make me suspicious and I certainly don't blame anyone for finding fault with that. However, I don't understand why me not posting since my accusation would make me seem suspicious. What would I possibly have to gain by not posting since my accusation if I were doing it on purpose?

 

[alex]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 5 ends June 10 at 12 PM CDT.

Cinesra, your main defense is that this was just a move by Keeper to get attention off him, but right after he said it he suicided.

 

[Cinesra]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 5 ends June 10 at 12 PM CDT.

I was referring to when he claimed I was the SK earlier and then made up some excuse about how it was to illustrate that it was as baseless as Teal's claim. Claiming that the wolves knew I was the SK when he suicided still gets the attention off of his fellow wolves and onto me. It certainly accomplished that.
Regardless, this point still stands:

If I were the SK and the wolves knew it since night 2, why would they wait until now to do something about it? I haven't been killed, nor has there been any push for a lynch against me until 2 whole game days later.

Keeper still was a wolf with a precedent for lying.

Also, Celever, since when am I a girl? First someone thinks Teal is a girl and now me...

 

[Machamp The Champion]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 5 ends June 10 at 12 PM CDT.

If I were the SK and the wolves knew it since night 2, why would they wait until now to do something about it? I haven't been killed, nor has there been any push for a lynch against me until 2 whole game days later.

Hmm... Thinking about it, the most logical reasons as to why Cinesra didn't die via the wolves last night would be:
A) The wolves want us to waste a lynch. Hopefully not going to happen.
B) Cinesra is BPV and the wolves can't kill her normally without wasting a night, so they want us to lynch her.
C) Cinesra is scum and that was a shoddy buss.

There's your reasons.

We don't have much time before deadline; we need to lynch someone. I'm going to vote for SF, and I hope everyone will follow me on this one. The fact that he's gone quiet seems a little suspicious to me. Cinesra seems more like town honestly, but it wouldn't surprise me all that much of he was the SK. If the wolves kill me tonight, let it be known that my suspects are SF (obv), TheGuy, a little bit WW (his posts seem a little bit too simple to me), and a little bit rev3rsor (inactivity and not having much substance in the few posts he does make). The SK could be any of them, or someone else. Also, inactives, post more! We don't have that many player left, and there are 2-3 wolves and 1-2 Porygon-aligned players still alive. Getting mod killed could result in town losing very easily.

##SCORCH: Scorched Feathers

 

[Celever]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 5 ends June 10 at 12 PM CDT.

I'm not sure if I'm voting him already, but ##ARSON: Scorched Feathers just in case. I have stated my reasons clearly in the past, and Cinesra is very much town to me. If he (sorry, Cinesra, you sounded feminine to me D flips SK I will legitimately be surprised, since that would be poor play by KoN to have publicly said that he knows Cinesra to be the SK as he was getting lynched, and I feel like he is better than that.

 

[rev3rsor]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 5 ends June 10 at 12 PM CDT.

Hey, sorry for not posting much. I haven't really had much to say since my last post. I don't know about SF atm, since there's not much in particular that points to him being scum. I guess I'll hold my vote for now and remain neutral (I'll vote when there's someone I think should be lynched).

 

[alex]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 5 ends June 10 at 12 PM CDT.

##Lynch: Scorched Feathers

Not the best kill but we need to choose who to lynch pretty much now since we need all 7 votes before the end of the day (I hate this rule...).

 

[Kecleon-X]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 5 ends June 10 at 12 PM CDT.

Keeper may not have been the serial killer but he was scum nonetheless. The suspicion of him being SK led to the revealing of his scuminess was thoroughly investigated.

Lynch Leads:
Cinesra - I'm willing to believe that he's either town PR or he's actually the SK. The wolves want us to spend a lynch on him and I'd assume they wouldn't name someone (as it is very unconventional) unless it was someone they'd really want dead. Also I'd dismiss the logic that he's not suspicion because he seems town-like because the SK has much of the same goals as the town because his primary target would be to kill the wolves, at least at first. I'd for sure like to see his defense because he has been accused and he has seemed to act a bit wolfish by posting very little and he may be bandwagoning (I'd need to take the time to check but that usually comes along with the little posts).

SF - He's acted strangely, particularly over the last two days. And for reasons already stated, it worth consideration.

Verdict: Undecided, leaning towards SF although I'd like to hear from both.

Cinersa: I don't know. I think that he might be town, given the reasoning I've seen. Then again, he could also be a wolf and they're using reverse psychology on us. But for the moment, at least, I am going to go ahead and refrain from voting for him.

Scorched Feathers: Doesn't Fletchling always act this way, though? I feel like lynching him for regular behavior isn't a great idea -- it'd be like lynching Camoclone for being Camoclone. I hate jumping on this lynch, too, but given Machamp and Cinersa's logic above, he's the only other person on the plate for today. I don't have any reads on anyone else (most likely because I've been burning my brain on School, writing and Resistance) for the moment, too. I don't think I'll jump on this lynch without looking at Scorched's posts, so that's what I'm about to go do.

Can we get a vote count, please?

 

[TheGuy]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 5 ends June 10 at 12 PM CDT.

We've got one day left so I'd rather we not end the day earlier than tonight. I do support the SF lynch and think it is noteworthy and most likely today. However, I'm still very suspicious and am now somewhat convinced that Cinesra is SK I will explain below.

If I were the SK and the wolves knew it since night 2, why would they wait until now to do something about it?

I'm going to get into the mind of the wolves to answer this question. They obviously wanted the town to waste a lynch on you so that they didn't have to kill you. They knew that Keeper was probably going to get lynched soon and so they waited to reveal until Keeper was dead.

I haven't been killed, nor has there been any push for a lynch against me until 2 whole game days later. Combine this with the fact that Keeper was a wolf who was about to be lynched and had been lying about his passive role (even got caught by Teal) makes me doubt why anyone would trust him. Keeper had previously tried to FOS (am I using this term correctly?) me for "bandwagonning" (which I dismissed and nobody seemed to disagree with my defense, not even Keeper) so I think he just went with some last ditch attempt to get the attention away from him and his fellow wolves and onto somebody who admittedly hasn't been very active.

I would disagree that it's a last ditch attempt because WW lynches never change that fast he knew he was dead the moment he got half the votes on him.

I generally don't say anything if I feel I have nothing to add. This goes for real life as well as werewolf. I don't get on PokéBeach every day either and because of this people will say what I'm thinking before I get the chance to or I'm away when developments go down like the whole Teal/Keeper incident and Keeper's accusation of me. I can completely understand if my general lack of posting would make me suspicious and I certainly don't blame anyone for finding fault with that. However, I don't understand why me not posting since my accusation would make me seem suspicious. What would I possibly have to gain by not posting since my accusation if I were doing it on purpose?

Hoping that the talk about you would go away and we'd focus simply on SF.

I was referring to when he claimed I was the SK earlier and then made up some excuse about how it was to illustrate that it was as baseless as Teal's claim. Claiming that the wolves knew I was the SK when he suicided still gets the attention off of his fellow wolves and onto me. It certainly accomplished that.
Regardless, this point still stands:

I don't understand how it gets the attention off of his "fellow wolves". The only person who was suspicious to us at the time of Keeper's lynch is SF. So if SF is a wolf - then it's only one. And if SF is town it completely disproves your theory. We're probably going to lynch SF today so we'll get to find out.[/b\

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Keeper still was a wolf with a precedent for lying.

This is the only point that I agree with. We can't trust Keeper. Not only has he been known to lie but he's a wolf. That's why I believe that you're either SK or your town PR. Either way, the wolves think you're a big threat and want us to lynch you. Well, wolves if Cinesra is SK - you're going to have to kill him yourself.

Also, Celever, since when am I a girl? First someone thinks Teal is a girl and now me...

td;lr: I'm pretty sure that Cinesra is SK but we can leave it to the wolves to kill him and if SF flips town then it's even more likely that Cinesra is SK.