Finished Werewolf XXII: The Reign of Terror - Town Wins

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Camoclone said:
Celever said:
Also Camo, why did you suddenly decide that the discussion is hurting the town? IIRC you said that the discussion was beneficial to the town a while ago...
Because I thought about it. And because you wouldn't budge.

Just to clarify, it's because he wouldn't agree with you that it was bad for the town? I'm just saying, that's a little arrogant.

Camoclone said:
Here is the case:

There was absolutely nothing to hold against you until you started posting. We were making everything up. Now I believe you are scum based off your reaction to the pressure,

Luispipe8 said:
Hold it, what?! o_O What has turned everyone around into me?! D: And Cel, what makes you think I'm scummy? e.e
General new player response. Nothing to see here, move along.

Luispipe8 said:
And how do you know IF I'm scum? I mean, you just can't go and tell everyone a chicken lays Golden eggs without showing them. :p
He never denies being scum.

Luispipe8 said:
I really think that we're both doing it. I mean, the only thing that can point me to being a scum is "my activity", but my &%/%=/ cell phone leaves the Forums open, so it's like I'm always here when I'm not! D: But thinking it through, it might just be another bandwagon... by a scum.

##UNVOTE: TwistedTurtwig
##VOTE: [mod]Camoclone[/mod]
Hard OMGUS. New townies just don't do that.

Luispipe8 said:
Alright, I'll let you guys keep thinking that, there's no convincing you. We'll see what happens when the day is over.
Giving up and threatening. Wolves generally threaten to make people doubt the lynch.

Luispipe8 said:
Right back at ya. ;)
Done. Now it's your turn. Post exactly why you think I am scum. If it's not good I'm parking my vote on you.

Celever said:
However, it's also a common newbie-town tactic, which I believe Luispipe is. That's why I'm a little bit doubting on this lynch target.

For the record Luispipe, if you are truly town you should post your Role PM after a couple more votes on you.

I haven't actually seen new townies OMGUS this hard. Just new wolfies. New townies try to help. Please don't claim yet Luis.

I actually agree with what you've pointed out here, Camo. Having been newb wolf at one point (My first game, actually), I can totally attest to this behavior.

##UNOMGUS: Porygon-X

##D-MAIL: Luispipe

Celever said:
Making claims you can't fulfill... Scum. You can't screenshit because it would get you godkilled; please just paste your role once you have your fake prepared.

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(I love it when people hit the wrong key.)

@Luispipe: Though that would normally be the case, fake roles are a thing, so whatever you post will go under extreme scrutiny and disbelief.
 
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Kecleon-X said:
Camoclone said:
Because I thought about it. And because you wouldn't budge.

Just to clarify, it's because he wouldn't agree with you that it was bad for the town? I'm just saying, that's a little arrogant.

I'm just clarifying here since I can't edit -- I know you're not meaning it to be this way, but I am calling into question your view of your place in the town. I'm saying it sounded like you were kind of speaking for all of us, instead of yourself.
 
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Celever said:
PMJ, were you this stubborn in your first game? Like I get the whole OMGUS thing being a noobtown AND noobscum trait, but refusing to claim just doesn't make sense to me.

I was, actually. Pretty sure I even did the retaliatory OMGUS vote too.

I didn't claim because the town was full speed ahead on my lynch. Any argument I made was just written off as scum tactic, and role reveal was not allowed so I could not claim seer.

Luis, if you claim, you are probably still going to die unless your role is provable right now. "Give me another day to prove it" is a typical scum tactic to defer their inevitable lynch. If you think it will save you, go ahead, but know the risks involved.
 
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PMJ said:
Celever said:
PMJ, were you this stubborn in your first game? Like I get the whole OMGUS thing being a noobtown AND noobscum trait, but refusing to claim just doesn't make sense to me.

I was, actually. Pretty sure I even did the retaliatory OMGUS vote too.

I didn't claim because the town was full speed ahead on my lynch. Any argument I made was just written off as scum tactic, and role reveal was not allowed so I could not claim seer.

Luis, if you claim, you are probably still going to die unless your role is provable right now. "Give me another day to prove it" is a typical scum tactic to defer their inevitable lynch. If you think it will save you, go ahead, but know the risks involved.

Really? Seeing as my first game I was a wolf, I wouldn't know how a newb town would react, which could be the same as newb wolf. Hm. Maybe I should rethink my vote, seeing as it's more based off my own experiences being lined up with Luis' than actual evidence.
 
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PMJ said:
Luis, if you claim, you are probably still going to die unless your role is provable right now. "Give me another day to prove it" is a typical scum tactic to defer their inevitable lynch. If you think it will save you, go ahead, but know the risks involved.

I never said that. :p And how Shuckles is a role proveable?!?!?! e.e I'm still willing to paste my role to clear myself out if need be(have it ready in draft, just waiting to be 100% sure if it's legal or not, lol), but I'm guessing that the consequences you're talking about is to be a confirmed Townie and cannon fodder for Wolves? There's not much more I can think of right now...
 
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You can copy/paste your role in this thread, you just can't "screenshit".

Hi and bye.
 
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Teal said:
You can copy/paste your role in this thread, you just can't "screenshit".

"Screenshit", it'll be a while until I forget this. :p

Well, my role is as follows(in Spoilers for room)

Roger Gance [Luispipe8]
Personally, you support the revolution. You didn’t like the King taxing your business and you think it’s time that the nobles and the richest Frenchmen start paying their fair share. Owner of the local bar you make it clear that royal sympathizers are not to be served.

Ability: Give Em’ A Drink
Once per night you may PM me the name of a player. That player will receive a drink and will be too drunk to vote the next day.

Win Condition: Town Wins
Have that as you wish.
INB4 I get NK'd by Monday

Let's start the Round:

##UNVOTE: Luispipe8
 
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Kecleon-X said:
Really? Seeing as my first game I was a wolf, I wouldn't know how a newb town would react, which could be the same as newb wolf. Hm. Maybe I should rethink my vote, seeing as it's more based off my own experiences being lined up with Luis' than actual evidence.

Are you saying you think that Luis is scum because you did the same thing as a newb wolf?
 
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Luis that role is definitely provable. Just tell us who you voted for and we can have them cast a vote if they have not already. When TheGuy posts the vote count, if the votes line up then you will be well on your way to being cleaned.
 
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And by voted for, I mean targeted with your night action.
 
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Or, wait, if they can't vote then they should have received confirmation from TheGuy saying they can't vote. That player confirming they received such a message should be enough.

Actually, I'm getting ahead of myself. It could be a safe claim. It's a very weak role, easily "provable" by a scumpartner.
 
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I believe Luis. His c/p says "Win Condition: Town Wins". It's the same as mine. Some hosts use "All enemy roles must be eliminated" or something similar. He couldn't make up the town win condition the exact same way I think.
 
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PMJ said:
Or, wait, if they can't vote then they should have received confirmation from TheGuy saying they can't vote. That player confirming they received such a message should be enough.

Actually, I'm getting ahead of myself. It could be a safe claim. It's a very weak role, easily "provable" by a scumpartner.

Actually in a vote count earlier there was a player with a vote weight of 0 (3 players voting, total of two lynch gotes on them. TheGuy even said "my Maths is right don't question it") so it could hold weight. Luis, who did you target last night?

Also SF and MTC I want your full logic for pressuring Luispipe right now. There are several answers I will accept, but I just want to know your's!

Godammit iPad typing is hard. Screenshit this game and "cum slip" last game (missed the "s"). I only seem to typo in inappropriate places, too! >~>
 
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The fact nobody else mentioned his win condition was the exact same wording as TheGuy used for town makes me suspicious of you guys.
 
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Celever said:
PMJ said:
Or, wait, if they can't vote then they should have received confirmation from TheGuy saying they can't vote. That player confirming they received such a message should be enough.

Actually, I'm getting ahead of myself. It could be a safe claim. It's a very weak role, easily "provable" by a scumpartner.

Actually in a vote count earlier there was a player with a vote weight of 0 (3 players voting, total of two lynch gotes on them. TheGuy even said "my Maths is right don't question it") so it could hold weight. Luis, who did you target last night?

Also SF and MTC I want your full logic for pressuring Luispipe right now. There are several answers I will accept, but I just want to know your's!

Godammit iPad typing is hard. Screenshit this game and "cum slip" last game (missed the "s"). I only seem to typo in inappropriate places, too! >~>

Well, since we knew LITERALLY nothing by N0, I randomized it and I chose Drohn.
 
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Drohn said:
I believe Luis. His c/p says "Win Condition: Town Wins". It's the same as mine. Some hosts use "All enemy roles must be eliminated" or something similar. He couldn't make up the town win condition the exact same way I think.

While this is true and gives his claim quite a bit of weight, in the majority of games I've played in yhe scum have been provided with the WC for the town to help with faking. The vague wincon could also lean towards this being a feature in this game especially (it IS a 2v1 after all) so I'm not so sure on that particular argument. I wouldn't really know though! :p

On the flip side, if he just claims who he targeted N0 correctly his claim is clean and all that speculation just flies out of the water...

...until you realize that vote blocker is a scum role 90% of the time. While it does look like there is one for every faction (3 factions, 3 people vote blocked) it's worth noting.
 
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I was not informed by TheGuy that my vote count was 0 today. I believed it was someone else. It does make sense, however, since 3 people (including myself) voted for SF and only 2 counted. At least I don't have to go through the effort of unvoting and thinking about who to vote for Day 1. Have fun with that everyone. o/
 
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Drohn said:
The fact nobody else mentioned his win condition was the exact same wording as TheGuy used for town makes me suspicious of you guys.

Actually you had posted about it before I read his Role PM...

Anyway, vote for someone without a single lynch on them please Drohn

##Can we have a votecount after Drohn votes please, TheGuy?

I believe Luispipe just took a one in three chance from that votecount, and he got it wrong.
 
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Celever said:
##Can we have a votecount after Drohn votes please, TheGuy?
"Vote counts will not be provided upon request. They will only be provided once every twenty-four hours after the beginning of the game day."
 
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Drohn said:
I was not informed by TheGuy that my vote count was 0 today. I believed it was someone else. It does make sense, however, since 3 people (including myself) voted in SF and only 2 counted. At least I don't have to go through the effort of unvoting and thinking about who to vote for Day 1. Have fun with that everyone. o/

That's weird, it was you IIRC. I'll have to go through my PM's and check, but I'm 100% sure it was you. It wasn't Camoclone for sure, and I didn't even knew who Reinforce was, TBH. :p
 
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