Finished Werewolf XXII: The Reign of Terror - Town Wins

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##unlike: Scorched Feathers
##dislike: Chaos Jackal
 
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Luispipe8 said:
Drohn said:
I was not informed by TheGuy that my vote count was 0 today. I believed it was someone else. It does make sense, however, since 3 people (including myself) voted in SF and only 2 counted. At least I don't have to go through the effort of unvoting and thinking about who to vote for Day 1. Have fun with that everyone. o/

That's weird, it was you IIRC. I'll have to go through my PM's and check, but I'm 100% sure it was you. It wasn't Camoclone for sure, and I didn't even knew who Reinforce was, TBH. :p

Thank you for confirming the fact that you chose your claimed target from the vote count. Really convenient that your target happened to be the one who voted for someone...
 
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Teal, as you're active, could you post your thoughts on the recent happenings please?

Thanks for the heads up though! :p

I have double posted too much itg for my liking, but this place is just too active...
 
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@Luis: It's very possible that TheGuy simply doesn't state who was affected by you and that we would have to find that out ourselves. I do believe your claim and think that everyone should unvote Luis. If my vote count wasn't 0 I would totally go after the people that were too quick in following the Luis lynch (Celever, Scorched Feathers, or MTC).
 
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Celever said:
Luispipe8 said:
That's weird, it was you IIRC. I'll have to go through my PM's and check, but I'm 100% sure it was you. It wasn't Camoclone for sure, and I didn't even knew who Reinforce was, TBH. :p

Thank you for confirming the fact that you chose your claimed target from the vote count. Really convenient that your target happened to be the one who voted for someone...

I'm saying that because the "miscount" was against Feathers, and and as I sald, there are my reasons for choosing Drohn N0: randomness, and just because he won Kingdoms. :p


Drohn said:
@Luis: It's very possible that TheGuy simply doesn't state who was affected by you and that we would have to find that out ourselves. I do believe your claim and think that everyone should unvote Luis. If my vote count wasn't 0 I would totally go after the people that were too quick in following the Luis lynch (Celever, Scorched Feathers, or MTC).

You're certainly right. I'd rather wait and see how they react to this before I throw my vote, but I'm leaning over Celever a bit, for the moment...
 
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Drohn said:
@Luis: It's very possible that TheGuy simply doesn't state who was affected by you and that we would have to find that out ourselves. I do believe your claim and think that everyone should unvote Luis. If my vote count wasn't 0 I would totally go after the people that were too quick in following the Luis lynch (Celever, Scorched Feathers, or MTC).

I have my reason (very basic reason, impossible to contest) but I asked SF and MTC just to see how they will answer the question themselves.
 
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PMJ said:
Kecleon-X said:
Really? Seeing as my first game I was a wolf, I wouldn't know how a newb town would react, which could be the same as newb wolf. Hm. Maybe I should rethink my vote, seeing as it's more based off my own experiences being lined up with Luis' than actual evidence.

Are you saying you think that Luis is scum because you did the same thing as a newb wolf?

Not exactly -- I still agree with a lot of what Camoclone pointed out in the post that I quoted, but it was supported by the fact that I had the same mentality when I was still newb wolf. Given the fact that what I mentioned having reasonable doubt about said mentality, that would make all the points that would have been supported by said claim are thus not supported, casting reasonable doubt on the validity of those points as well.

tl;dr: There's still what Camo has mentioned which I agree with, but my past experiences were my primary basis.

PMJ said:
Luis that role is definitely provable. Just tell us who you voted for and we can have them cast a vote if they have not already. When TheGuy posts the vote count, if the votes line up then you will be well on your way to being cleaned.

If Drohn can't vote, then we can go ahead and mark at least Drohn off the list of wolves. Do we know if "can't vote" means literally can't even use the "##" tags or he will get banned/warned by the GM, or is it possible that he can use the tags and we can wait on whether or not TheGuy reads his vote.

Drohn said:
The fact nobody else mentioned his win condition was the exact same wording as TheGuy used for town makes me suspicious of you guys.

Well, that won't mean anything if the wolves have safeclaims. Of course, we don't know whether or not this is the case, but a safeclaim is actually quite possible.
 
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Just putting it here that I think we will all share the same reason though, because I could see them, SF especially, suddenly realize what we were doing and sort of subtly (OK not subtly >_>) attacked you with suspicion. It was admittedly quite funny, even if it did end up with an incorrect target. I commend Camo for his great play there, he must have worded it just right so that I actually second-guessed myself as I was posting and changed it to cast suspicion unto you. I mentioned this in a previous post, too.
 
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Kecleon-X said:
If Drohn can't vote, then we can go ahead and mark at least Drohn off the list of wolves.

Why?
 
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I can vote. Only today my vote doesn't count due to Luis' ability.
 
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While I went and ran nine miles, it seems like some stuff happened.

The whole thing's kind of funny, actually. I doubt that Camo actually has some sort of "secret evidence" against Luispipe. He's doing it just to lead a fake wagon on a player he knows will react accordingly, in order to judge the actions of all the other players involved in the debate. Cel ever probably picked up on this as well, and went along with the charade. Very clever, I have to admit. We had no information today, but now we have a nice selection that we can analyze.

So assuming that Luispipe is town, as he claims through his role (which I believe is real, since it looks similar in form to my own) who was quick to jump on the bandwagon, only following the couple of votes already placed?
 
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Like I said, Luis could very well target a scumpartner and "clear" them both.

TheGuy said that the wolves have to lie if they want to win. Not giving them the tools they need to lie effectively would just be bad hosting imo.
 
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It could simply mean they have no safe claims.
 
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The very first one to back up Camo in his accusation was indeed Celever, but Machamp's posts have been kind of "Yeah, let's do it". For now:

##Vote: [mod]Machamp The Champion[/mod]
 
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Cinesra said:
Kecleon-X said:
If Drohn can't vote, then we can go ahead and mark at least Drohn off the list of wolves.

Why?

Was about to post with the same thing, but I will phrase it as more of a sentence...

Basically, it is a safe assumption that there is a voteblocker on every faction, as 3 people fell prey to the block today, and there are three notable enough factions that they were named in the OP.

However, I think Kec may have been setting up a situation and saying "if Luis flips scum, we can mark Drohn off the list of scum" which is largely true for that faction, just not the other one! :p

Also godammit TT I was keeping the reasoning secret and testing SF and MTC. Oh well, guess it can 't be helped. You hit the nail on the head though. I had tapped up a whole post about why Camo's post was stupid, I wrote down right at the end "I doubt Luis will even react, anyway" and then something clicked in my head and I just deleted the entire thing and made the post you can see there now. Very clever Camo; that is how you get discussion started Day 1.

Also Drohn I highly doubt that they lack safe claims. Just the whole flavour of this game means that countless characters are possible (I have quite a funny one myself, actually. You'll see if I ever end up having to claim. Not really funny like drunk nudes dancing on chickens, it's... IDK... Shakesperean humourous I guess lol.) so fakes won't take much time to type. Fakes, or hints on how to make them, should always be provided in games where full Role PM reveals are allowed in-thread. It's like basic hosting 101, so I woukd be very surprised if this game lacks them.

And Luis, that's how MTC always plays, lol. We haven't seen enough of SF to really see how he has played this game, though. Oh well! :[

I did that preview post thingie this time and put what would have inevitably been all of my posts into one big one to avoid clutter! Are you proud of me? :3
 
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Oh, I still forgot something though... Basically, the people who wagoned on you Luis did a townie thing and shouldn't really be cast under suspicion for it. I fully believe they had an idea about Camo when he posted and then when I posted, we could especially see this with SF, it solidified their thoughts and they just went bombs away on you. It got a reaction and it generated discussion, and such they probably shouldn't be in the lime light today.
 
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I tell you guys this literally every game and nobody listens to me. It's pointless and stupid to try to scumtell new players because they always seem scummy. Camoclone has done this for the past 3 games and probably even more that I haven't played in. Like, god dammit Camo, wtf were you expecting him to do? Make a nice well thought out post in his defense? Even if he had the experience to do that, what is he even supposed to defend?
 
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Celever said:
Oh, I still forgot something though... Basically, the people who wagoned on you Luis did a townie thing and shouldn't really be cast under suspicion for it. I fully believe they had an idea about Camo when he posted and then when I posted, we could especially see this with SF, it solidified their thoughts and they just went bombs away on you. It got a reaction and it generated discussion, and such they probably shouldn't be in the lime light today.

Yeah, you're probably right.

##Unvote: MTC

I'n not voting until there's more discussion, honestly.
 
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Also, at the end of the day, if there is no majority does it end with most votes lynched or no lynch?
 
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Does anyone know if I can print my airplane ticket in the Technical University of Vienna at 9:00 today morning? ":D" I didn't know I need to print tickets and it's driving me crazy. I need to board the flight at 11:10 (the plane takes off at 11:40) and it only takes 45 minutes to the airport from the University but the airport is huge and I'm worried I will get lost and waste too much time. Oh my gosh I hope everything works out.

Also, can someone take back my mangas to the library because I just noticed I need to return them by the 18th? ":D"

I'm not active my dear love interest Celever, I'm just skimming a bit and crying about my life. I'll be more active on day 2. On a side note, will you marry me?
 
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